See stevie that whore word is almost as powerful as the C word when you are dealing with the ladies.
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See stevie that whore word is almost as powerful as the C word when you are dealing with the ladies.
Even after all this, as Imus tries to keep his job, he calls a black Congresswoman and Al Sharpton 'you people.' Nice job.
The only time i've ever seen his show is in the morning if I fall asleep with MSNBC on and I keep it on for a few minutes.
I hate Stern and think he's an idiot, but I can at least SEE why certain people like him.
Not so with Imus. He mumbles incoherently. The show is extremely slow paced and boring. Sometimes watching, just shaking my head, about to change the channel, I wish someone would poke him with a stick just to see if he's alive.
What a terrible show and totally baffling how he's become this shock jock icon.
By JOHN MAZOR and DAVID K. LI
AIR WAR: WFAN shock jock Don Imus faces off with the Rev. Al Sharpton yesterday on Sharpton's radio show. Imus came to apologizefor his comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team last week, but got himself suspended after putting his foot in his mouth again.
So, Imus made the mistake of taking up the lexicon of black "culture" and repeating it while white...tsk, tsk, tsk. Imus said a bad word so let's boil him oil at the very least. The hip hopsters use the "ho" term to refer to all women and get a pass...
MSNBC and CBS radio turned down the dial on Don Imus yesterday, suspending him hours after he made another racial blunder - addressing the Rev. Al Sharpton and a key black congresswoman as "you people."
The beleaguered shock jock, who hosts a WFAN-AM radio show that's simulcast by cable's MSNBC, will be off the air for two weeks starting Monday because of the sexist, racist remarks he made last week.
Imus called Rutgers University women's basketball players "nappy-headed ho's" Wednesday, the morning after the Lady Knights fell in the NCAA title game.
MSNBC officials said they'll keep a close eye on him after he returns to the airwaves.
"This comes after careful consideration in the days since his racist, abhorrent comments were made," according to an MSNBC statement. "Our future relationship with Imus is contingent on his ability to live up to his word."
The suspension is being put off until Monday, in part, so Imus can do previously scheduled broadcast fund-raisers for children's charities this week, the networks said.
Imus has been apologizing ever since making his tasteless remarks, but his contrition campaign skidded off the road in a horrific foot-in-mouth crash yesterday afternoon, as he was appearing on Sharpton's radio show.
Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (D-Mich.), chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, questioned whether Imus fully understood how he hurt black women. That's when Imus lost it.
"I do understand that. How do you assume that I don't understand that? Of course I understand that! It's like the old country song, 'God may forgive you, but I won't. Jesus loves you but I don't.' So I can't get any place with you people, but I can get some place with Jesus," ranted Imus, whose show regularly attracts political and media elite as guests.
The "you people" comment, a racial touchstone made infamous by Ross Perot in a 1992 address, ignited a heated exchange.
"Who is 'you people,' Mr. Imus?" asked Sharpton, who wants Imus fired from his morning show.
NBC News Senior Vice President Phil Griffin, who oversees MSNBC, sat behind Imus in the studio throughout the Sharpton interview, but couldn't stop the I-Man from imploding.
"You and this woman I'm talking to," Imus responded to Sharpton. "Don't try to hang that on me. That's jive."
"What's jive?" Sharpton shot back.
" 'What do you mean by 'you people?' You know what I meant - you two people," Imus angrily answered. "That's not even fair. You said you were going to be fair. Keep your word!"
"I'm being very fair, I'm being fair. I'm keeping it real," Sharpton said. "I'm in charge here, I'm in charge here. I asked you the question!"
Sharpton then went to commercials and cooler heads prevailed.
Imus' collapse highlighted a roller-coaster 90 minutes that had him alternately deferential and testy toward Sharpton.
At the show's conclusion inside ABC studios on the Upper West Side, Imus thanked Sharpton for having him on.
"Thank you for giving me the opportunity," Imus said. Sharpton didn't immediately respond. Then under his breath, Imus muttered a sarcastic, "You're welcome."
Imus gave a cursory wave as he stood up and left, drawing a slight nod from Sharpton.
After Imus left, Sharpton said the veteran radio host was his own worst enemy.
"I think he might have made it worse . . . He certainly gave me a lot of ammunition to go to MSNBC and CBS," said Sharpton, who left the studio at each commercial break during his Imus chat. "I couldn't believe [it] when he went to 'you people.' "
During his own show earlier, Imus apologized repeatedly, calling his remarks "disgraceful and repugnant."
"I did a bad thing, but I'm a good person," said Imus, who vowed to cut back on "physical humor" - making fun of the way people look.
The I-Man told listeners he didn't want to "weasel out" of his nasty words, but pleaded for the public to remember his philanthropic work.
Imus and his wife own a New Mexico ranch where they entertain young cancer and terminally ill patients. "I hope no one is thinking I'm trying to weasel out of this," Imus said. "But I have a responsibility to provide some kind of context and proportionality to who I am and what I do."
Imus said he wants to meet with Rutgers players and their parents so he can apologize in person. The players plan to hold a press conference today.
The only time i've ever seen his show is in the morning if I fall asleep with MSNBC on and I keep it on for a few minutes.
I hate Stern and think he's an idiot, but I can at least SEE why certain people like him.
Not so with Imus. He mumbles incoherently. The show is extremely slow paced and boring. Sometimes watching, just shaking my head, about to change the channel, I wish someone would poke him with a stick just to see if he's alive.
What a terrible show and totally baffling how he's become this shock jock icon.
By JOHN MAZOR and DAVID K. LI
AIR WAR: WFAN shock jock Don Imus faces off with the Rev. Al Sharpton yesterday on Sharpton's radio show. Imus came to apologizefor his comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team last week, but got himself suspended after putting his foot in his mouth again.
So, Imus made the mistake of taking up the lexicon of black "culture" and repeating it while white...tsk, tsk, tsk. Imus said a bad word so let's boil him oil at the very least. The hip hopsters use the "ho" term to refer to all women and get a pass...
MSNBC and CBS radio turned down the dial on Don Imus yesterday, suspending him hours after he made another racial blunder - addressing the Rev. Al Sharpton and a key black congresswoman as "you people."
The beleaguered shock jock, who hosts a WFAN-AM radio show that's simulcast by cable's MSNBC, will be off the air for two weeks starting Monday because of the sexist, racist remarks he made last week.
Imus called Rutgers University women's basketball players "nappy-headed ho's" Wednesday, the morning after the Lady Knights fell in the NCAA title game.
MSNBC officials said they'll keep a close eye on him after he returns to the airwaves.
"This comes after careful consideration in the days since his racist, abhorrent comments were made," according to an MSNBC statement. "Our future relationship with Imus is contingent on his ability to live up to his word."
The suspension is being put off until Monday, in part, so Imus can do previously scheduled broadcast fund-raisers for children's charities this week, the networks said.
Imus has been apologizing ever since making his tasteless remarks, but his contrition campaign skidded off the road in a horrific foot-in-mouth crash yesterday afternoon, as he was appearing on Sharpton's radio show.
Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (D-Mich.), chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, questioned whether Imus fully understood how he hurt black women. That's when Imus lost it.
"I do understand that. How do you assume that I don't understand that? Of course I understand that! It's like the old country song, 'God may forgive you, but I won't. Jesus loves you but I don't.' So I can't get any place with you people, but I can get some place with Jesus," ranted Imus, whose show regularly attracts political and media elite as guests.
The "you people" comment, a racial touchstone made infamous by Ross Perot in a 1992 address, ignited a heated exchange.
"Who is 'you people,' Mr. Imus?" asked Sharpton, who wants Imus fired from his morning show.
NBC News Senior Vice President Phil Griffin, who oversees MSNBC, sat behind Imus in the studio throughout the Sharpton interview, but couldn't stop the I-Man from imploding.
"You and this woman I'm talking to," Imus responded to Sharpton. "Don't try to hang that on me. That's jive."
"What's jive?" Sharpton shot back.
" 'What do you mean by 'you people?' You know what I meant - you two people," Imus angrily answered. "That's not even fair. You said you were going to be fair. Keep your word!"
"I'm being very fair, I'm being fair. I'm keeping it real," Sharpton said. "I'm in charge here, I'm in charge here. I asked you the question!"
Sharpton then went to commercials and cooler heads prevailed.
Imus' collapse highlighted a roller-coaster 90 minutes that had him alternately deferential and testy toward Sharpton.
At the show's conclusion inside ABC studios on the Upper West Side, Imus thanked Sharpton for having him on.
"Thank you for giving me the opportunity," Imus said. Sharpton didn't immediately respond. Then under his breath, Imus muttered a sarcastic, "You're welcome."
Imus gave a cursory wave as he stood up and left, drawing a slight nod from Sharpton.
After Imus left, Sharpton said the veteran radio host was his own worst enemy.
"I think he might have made it worse . . . He certainly gave me a lot of ammunition to go to MSNBC and CBS," said Sharpton, who left the studio at each commercial break during his Imus chat. "I couldn't believe [it] when he went to 'you people.' "
During his own show earlier, Imus apologized repeatedly, calling his remarks "disgraceful and repugnant."
"I did a bad thing, but I'm a good person," said Imus, who vowed to cut back on "physical humor" - making fun of the way people look.
The I-Man told listeners he didn't want to "weasel out" of his nasty words, but pleaded for the public to remember his philanthropic work.
Imus and his wife own a New Mexico ranch where they entertain young cancer and terminally ill patients. "I hope no one is thinking I'm trying to weasel out of this," Imus said. "But I have a responsibility to provide some kind of context and proportionality to who I am and what I do."
Imus said he wants to meet with Rutgers players and their parents so he can apologize in person. The players plan to hold a press conference today.
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Then i don't know what the big deal is if he was talking about Santa.
Hopefully this silly crap is over soon. There is nothing more brutal to listen to on sports radio as an announcer fighting with a caller about race. It goes on all day long. Same with a talk show. It just bores ya to tears. There is only so much you can say about the subject.
What he ought to be fired for is that silly ten gallon bucket he wears on his head.
Black people make believe that Sharpton and Jesse are upstanding people... so who really cares what Imus or Joseph Biden said ? really
One was a poor joke..another a compliment...and yet both equally condemned by the black community.
Bill Oreilly said white people are being driven away because of the persistent " You must step correct to and walk on egg shells around black people "
It gets tiresome and after all is said, who gives a chit anyway ?
I am finding as I get older that the AA approach to neither endorse nor oppose controversies..Unfortunately i'd rather not engage in conversation with black people because i don't want to stand there and have to concentrate on what i may say may become twisted into some " not stepping correct thing ".
But IMUS is a jerk and should know better, but he probably takes pleasure in this attention anyway and might even be tickeled that he struck a nerve.
One was a poor joke..another a compliment...and yet both equally condemned by the black community.
Bill Oreilly said white people are being driven away because of the persistent " You must step correct to and walk on egg shells around black people "
It gets tiresome and after all is said, who gives a chit anyway ?
I am finding as I get older that the AA approach to neither endorse nor oppose controversies..Unfortunately i'd rather not engage in conversation with black people because i don't want to stand there and have to concentrate on what i may say may become twisted into some " not stepping correct thing ".
But IMUS is a jerk and should know better, but he probably takes pleasure in this attention anyway and might even be tickeled that he struck a nerve.
The point I am trying to make, and not very good, is that if these Black Leaders are going to be so outraged at this language then they should not be allowed to target their outrage at one person. If their outrage was real, and this goes for the Rutgers basketball team too, they would not only be demanding Imus be fired but they would demand that all rap cd's and black comedians be banned from the airwaves for using the same words. They are practicing selective outrage.
Can't disagree with that. Just another absurdity. He sits there likes a trunk of a petrified tree in that stupid hat. Christ, who watches that shit?
I got ya stevie. Chad say's they did address this but why would a rappor listen to anyone anyway? Maybe Imus should get a black cohost like Stern hides behind. You want to make a bet on who will be the first politician to go back on his show? I say its McCain but maybe not for another year. Democrats will run for the hills. I did hear Imus ratings have soared in the south now:SIB .
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Definitely inappropriate. Maybe it's just semantics, but 'ho' has racial overtones, where 'whore' does not. Kinda speaking to your point about it really being a 'female' slur.
'Nappy hair ho's' is clearly directed at one subset.
Same as telling Sharpton and the black Congresswoman that he can't get anywhere with 'you people.'
I don't think he meant women.
Have they boycotted any black rappers or comedians? I don't think so. Selective Outrage!
Again, I don't want to get into the position of defending Sharpton and Jackson, as I don't think them as being good holders of the black cause (for lack of a better term).
I think where this goes over the line is the fact that Imus was singling out a specific group of black females - putting a face on the issue, so to speak - and then using very derogatory terms (both racial and female terms). Not to defend rap music, which I think does perpetuate negative stereotypes, but most of the time in rap songs the rapper is speaking in generalities with the presumed denegration, and not calling out a specific group like the Rutgers basketball team. Furthermore, when a white dude that wears a big 'ol cowboy hat and brags about his ranch all the time throws out the comments he made, it makes it more incindiary.
I think where this goes over the line is the fact that Imus was singling out a specific group of black females - putting a face on the issue, so to speak - and then using very derogatory terms (both racial and female terms). Not to defend rap music, which I think does perpetuate negative stereotypes, but most of the time in rap songs the rapper is speaking in generalities with the presumed denegration, and not calling out a specific group like the Rutgers basketball team. Furthermore, when a white dude that wears a big 'ol cowboy hat and brags about his ranch all the time throws out the comments he made, it makes it more incindiary.
Another statement of brilliance.....
WTF does this have to do with the price of tea in China?
Most people would have their foot amputated to get their kid back let alone having no problem letting this asshole go and get a child.
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I don't agree that 'ho' itself is directed at any subset. Combined with 'nappy-headed' in front of it, yes. However, just the fact that he bashed 18-21 year old young women bothers me, as a woman. He has his right to his opinion, his right to voice it (with consequences, of course), but just the general disrespect was unnecessary.
the shock jock humor is defintely not for everybody....& i agree that imus is defintely not as funny as he used to be...but he was totally outragious for the first 15-20 years on the n.y. air waves & that's when he earned his icon status. it seems that married life (& children) & getting off the blow has calmed him down.
i think some people are misinterpreting imus' comment of "you people"(i understand what the connotation means).he meant it as a referral to sharpton & the other person that he was talking to at the time.i don't believe he meant it as a racial slur & definitely don't think he is a racist
The point was that everyone always wants to kill the guy when he in fact has done some nice things in his life. Your hatred of this man is just ur stupidity showing. Has he done some questionable things sure. Has he even came close to the dispicable things this administration has done? No not at all not even close yet you sit there with your pecker out everytime you see Bush on TV. You are the type of clueless fool that Fox TV preys on.
I saw today that when Len Berman failed as a sports personality in NYC, Imus referred to him as 'Lenny the Jew' over and over on his show.
Is that necessary, or even the least bit funny?
It's just not credible to think that he meant anything other than black people when he said 'you people.'
If you read the article I posted, or from elsewhere, you saw the exchange. The way it happened, it makes very little sense that he was talking about those two people.
Then he throws in there (apparently for his own amusement), after all this, some crap about 'jive.' It's in the article I posted.
F*cking idiot.
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I actually agree with this post. The "you" meant the two of them and nothing else. That is getting way blown out of proportion. Sharpton may have been being honest with his interpretation of "You" but i think Imus wasn't going where Sharpton tried to lead him. He should have said "you two' but this is where this stuff starts to get sickening. Everyone is watching every word that comes out of his mouth.
