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Your 1st motivational speech--give em something to cheer about--

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E37E4CB2-622B-445C-A96C-C7B79219CB70.htm

How would you like to have this guy
--running your company
--as your platoon leader
--coaching sports

Next question--who would want him leading them?

--those who adhere to "when the going gets tough-quit"

If you were 2 down with 3 seconds left and coach asked who wants the ball--you'd find him him hiding behind nearest player.
 

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Your 1st motivational speech--give em something to cheer about--

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E37E4CB2-622B-445C-A96C-C7B79219CB70.htm

How would you like to have this guy
--running your company
--as your platoon leader
--coaching sports

Next question--who would want him leading them?

--those who adhere to "when the going gets tough-quit"

If you were 2 down with 3 seconds left and coach asked who wants the ball--you'd find him him hiding behind nearest player.

The fact that he is correct and is trying to save American lives somehow eludes you?

What has Cheney ever said about the progress in Iraq that has been correct?
 

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And it took 4 years, 3,000+ lives, 18,000 injured beyond repair,100,000+ Iraqis killed, trillion dollars of taxpayer money and for what to figure that out?
 

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And it took 4 years, 3,000+ lives, 18,000 injured beyond repair,100,000+ Iraqis killed, trillion dollars of taxpayer money and for what to figure that out?

like all that taxpayer money we`re throwing away on the "war" on drugs and poverty?.....are those "wars" still in full swing?


it`s good that reid looks like an undertaker.... because those figures will triple if we leave iraq to their own devices....

and quadruple,when,after we slink home in defeat,we have to return at some point....

btw...that 100,000 number is a bit of a stretch....

again i say,if it`s lost,DEFUND IT!!!!!..

be a man harry...don`t play politics...take a "real" stand....
 

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Your 1st motivational speech--give em something to cheer about--

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E37E4CB2-622B-445C-A96C-C7B79219CB70.htm

How would you like to have this guy
--running your company
--as your platoon leader
--coaching sports

Next question--who would want him leading them?

--those who adhere to "when the going gets tough-quit"

If you were 2 down with 3 seconds left and coach asked who wants the ball--you'd find him him hiding behind nearest player.

When are you going to wake up and realize that honesty and the ability to realize you need to cut your losses is NOT a negative. This BS about not supporting our troops is insanity. The troops are professionals employed by our government. What do you think is better for their sensibilities: 1) leaving Iraq knowing that we didn't "win" or 2) watching more of their friends/co-workers get killed in the name of "democracy". People need to stop treating the troops like they are emotionally unstable children. They are adults and are capable of dealing with the fact that we fought in a war that they didn't win.

Your anaolgy about Reid is interesting, because I guess you are inferring that Cheney and Bush are exactly who you'd want running your company, or coaching your team. Personally, I'd take Reid because he's honest and honesty goes a long way in my book. If you are more comfortable working or playing for someone that doesn't respect you and treats you like crap, have at 'em.
 

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be a man harry...don`t play politics...take a "real" stand....

Ha! You mean like take a stand and admit that we are fighting a no-win situation? I guess your idea of being a man is lying to yourself and blindly following your fearless leader. You have to admit, this is a pretty ignorant comment on your part.
 

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Personally, I'd take Reid because he's honest and honesty goes a long way in my book. If you are more comfortable working or playing for someone that doesn't respect you and treats you like crap, have at 'em.

if you think harry reid is an honest man....you are mistaken. if you do an honest search of the "man" you will learn that he is no different than any other politican....out to make himself wealthier than when he got into office.

imo, harry reid is a sniveling wuss.....& i would say the samething if he was a republican.
 

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Ha! You mean like take a stand and admit that we are fighting a no-win situation? I guess your idea of being a man is lying to yourself and blindly following your fearless leader. You have to admit, this is a pretty ignorant comment on your part.

how do you know it's a no-win situation...because the media & the democrats say so....

i don't like what's going on in iraq either & i have been very critical about how the war is being fought...but the u.s. cannot pull out until the general's on the ground say so....because once that happens i believe the war will be fought in the u.s...
 

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AR: I know very little of Reid and am not posting this as endorsement for him as much as it is for what he is doing. I believe he is making a bold statement, but I think he's speaking for a lot of us. A lot of people have said that we can't win and that we are losing, but admitting that this thing is lost is not something I've heard much of....but I agree with it.

how do you know it's a no-win situation...because the media & the democrats say so....

i don't like what's going on in iraq either & i have been very critical about how the war is being fought...but the u.s. cannot pull out until the general's on the ground say so....because once that happens i believe the war will be fought in the u.s...

How do I know that this is a no-win situation? Because I understand the religious implications. Perhaps you aren't aware of this, but religious conflicts aren't settled quickly or definitively in the Middle East. If you are questioning whether or not this is in fact a religious conflict, take a look from their perspective. Infidels supporting Israel....that's what we are.

As for the last part about fighting the war here, I've said it before and I'll say it again: If they attack the homeland again, you use technology to wipe them out.
 
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gary...

all i'm saying is that only the military should decide when to conclude this war...not the politicans, the media, or the american people.
 

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gary...

all i'm saying is that only the military should decide when to conclude this war...not the politicans, the media, or the american people.

A politician got us into this, not the military. A politician will decide when we leave, not the military. I don't think we are going to come to terms on this one AR.

-Gary
 

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A politician got us into this, not the military. A politician will decide when we leave, not the military. I don't think we are going to come to terms on this one AR.

-Gary

politicans are always the ones who get their countries into war.....but once it's decided then the military should decide tactics, not politicans...ie...rumsfeld,mcnamara(sp?).

no we're not going to come to terms on this....that's why i tried to stop talking about it here...but once in awhile i get pulled in.
 

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Ha! You mean like take a stand and admit that we are fighting a no-win situation? I guess your idea of being a man is lying to yourself and blindly following your fearless leader. You have to admit, this is a pretty ignorant comment on your part.

"Ha!"(nice touch...i like it)

no...what`s actually ignorant is harry reid`s lack of foresight.....

instead of aid and comfort to the enemy,for a change,just some real answers and ideas about what happens if harry gets what he wants....which would be:

...alll out civil war between sunnis & shia

... hundred(s) of thousands of civilians killed

...millions of iraqi refugees

... partition of iraq & separation of kurdistan(who`s gonna do that?..the u.n.?.....Ha!)

.... turkish intervention in kurdisan (yep,that`s northern iraq)

.... an al qaeda safe haven in large parts of iraq

... effective iranian invasion of southern iraq

.... terrorist attacks against jordan, kuwait, saudi arabia & the gulf states

... reasserted syrian domination over lebanon

... significant disruption to world oil supply

and i guess we` d be abandoning afghanistan in the near future...

ohhh,we`d be back..in spades....

reid, pelosi, murtha and the rest of those dangerous fools need to stop & think what withdrawal from iraq will mean....it won't mean the end of war in iraq, it will mean the start of a much worse war....

if stupidity were bricks,this bunch would be the great wall of china...

(i really do like that "Ha!",though)
 

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Weasel, I have to admit, I do like your sayings. My personal favorite was in reference to Sponge not being able to find his way out of the closet with his hand on the doorknob....but the great wall is a good one too.

As for this issue, we apparently have different concerns/fears. You fear what happens to the region when we leave, I fear what happens if we stay. The easy leap to make here is that I'm worried about us and you are worried about them. It's simplistic, but I think it is true....in terms of philosophy only. I know you honestly care more about us than them, so what is it that you are actually worried about?
 

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My personal favorite was in reference to Sponge not being able to find his way out of the closet with his hand on the doorknob....

That is funny!

Poor Spongy!

(Spongy, turn the knob clockwise then push.)
 

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That is funny!

Poor Spongy!

(Spongy, turn the knob clockwise then push.)

I actually never saw it and don't think it is funny at all. If he said this to a person i couldn't stand i wouldn't think it was funny either. Weasal has said much funnier things than this, even to me.
On a side note i take it as a badge of honor when i can see things most can't. Kinda like betting on sports or this scam of a war. I gave everyone a script on how the NBA would sort out their playoffs a week before it happen. The things i said would happen, it might have been easier to hit the lottery if you thought these sports were on the up and up. Its over there for all to see. Step by step. You would have to be a magician to predict what i predicted but its not really that hard. You just think like the crooks who run that sport and it is actually kinda easy. Same like the crooks who run politics. If you just have the ability to open up your mind and brush off the pigeons who throw around the dreaded "conspricay" word you will be fine. I know Chadman thought i was nuts when i first posted but you can see in his very last couple of post that he is getting a little nastier because like me he is just getting sick of this garbage war and the word games the neocons play with it.
In closing you find DTB, AR or Weasal constantly going after Reid or Pelosi. Instead of looking at the stealing and the lying from this administration which doesn't seem to be a problem at all for them they go after the word games the neocons probably email them daily or most likely they get their fill from Fox News. Me i have said it before. Its two buckets of shit just one smells a little better. Im not gonna stick up for Pelosi if i think she does something i don't like. Or Reid. As a matter of fact i think Reid is totally wrong here. He knows the neocon's like to play the nasty word game cause guys like Weasal, Ar, and Dtb run with them cause they don't know any better. Reid should have known better than this. If i knew him i would grab him by one of his big ears and whisper in it with a blow horn and tell him to say we won the fuking war its a political situation now. But some democrats will always be gullible and fall for the word game. I never said i was smart its just a lot of people are clueless on what is going on right in front of their face.
 

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To each his own---some like and can relate to Harry's character and some can't.

---My issue was this has been 1st time he has motivated anyone--even if it wasn't our boys.

--however little doubt our troops give his attitude anymore merit than Hilliary's and the others.

Would be like telling the yankees they stand no chance agaist little league team---

--if eliminating suicide bombers/terrorist is measuring yardstick of win or loss --than as Da Weasel said we are wasting are money/resources on war on poverty-crime and ever other adversary known to man, as none can be eliminated.

--the Harry's motivation was aboutsthe troops is real laugher--if so you could say same for code pink-moveon-Jane Fonda ect---you know the same characters that "wailed bout troops and civilians in V.N."---and neither the troops nor the V.N./Cambodia civilians need Paul harvey to define "The rest of the Story" on that issue.
 

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To each his own---some like and can relate to Harry's character and some can't.


--if eliminating suicide bombers/terrorist is measuring yardstick of win or loss --than as Da Weasel said we are wasting are money/resources on war on poverty-crime and ever other adversary known to man, as none can be eliminated.

Two quick points. To each his own --- some like and can relate to Bush, Cheney, et al's character and some can't. We ALL know, including you and Weasel, that that number is growing smaller every day.

And, I thought we were in a war on terror, and there were terrorism links to Iraq, so why wouldn't a correct measuring stick of a win or loss be eliminating terrorists?

Once again, what IS the measuring stick for winning? Eternal policing of a country we have devastated due to our attacking and remaining in it?

Finally...there would be no such worries about what will happen to Iraq, had we not gone there in the first place and created complete chaos. Facing reality is what most Americans want at this point, except for Bush administration apoligists who are trying to save face in a losing argument.
 
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