video store clerk foils planned terrorist attack on ft dix

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WASHINGTON (CNN) — "Six “Islamic radicals” involved in a plot to kill U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix in New Jersey were arrested Monday night, the U.S. attorney’s office in New Jersey said Tuesday.

One of the suspects was born in Jordan, another in Turkey, the U.S. attorney’s office said. The rest are believed to be from the former Yugoslavia, “either U.S. citizens or living illegally in the United States,” the office said in a statement.

“Their alleged intention was to conduct an armed assault on the army base and to kill as many soldiers as possible,” according to the statement.

The six are expected to appear in U.S. District Court in Camden on Tuesday afternoon, the U.S. attorney’s office said in a statement.

The district attorney scheduled a news conference at 2:30 p.m. ET to discuss the case.

The men were planning to use automatic weapons to shoot soldiers at the Army post, according to a federal law enforcement source and a senior government source.

The men, some of whom were related to each other, had been doing surveillance and planning “for a while,” and they trained in the Poconos Mountains in northeastern Pennsylvania, according to the federal law enforcement source.

They played paintball and test-fired weapons, a law enforcement source said.""

and the new york times sanitized version:

CAMDEN, N.J., May 8 — "Six people" have been arrested on allegations of plotting to kill soldiers at a New Jersey army installation, a spokesman for the United States attorney’s office said today.

Four of them were born in the former Yugoslavia, one was born in Turkey and one in Jordan, said the spokesman, Greg Reinert.

“Allegedly they wanted to kill as many of the soldiers at Fort Dix as they could,” Mr. Reinert said.

He would not give any further details or say how they would have had access to Fort Dix.

The arrests were made on Monday night in Cherry Hill, N.J., by F.B.I. and Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers, said a spokesman for the Cherry Hill police, according to the Reuters news agency.

Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the United States attorney’s office in Newark, said some of the suspects were United States citizens and others were illegal immigrants, Reuters reported."


could have been yugoslavian mormon missionaries.....
jehovah's witnesses?....

i wonder why didn`t the nyt`s find out if those men slept on one of those round beds or bathed in the champagne glass while in the poconos?......

my guess is that c.a.i.r. and the aclu have already begun the "john doe" lawsuits in regards to any "john doe's" (i.e. the video store clerk)who may have been involved in the bust of these rambunctious "kids".......

obviously,nj jihadis are about as sharp as bowling balls...trying to convert training video tapes to dvd...that`s hilarious.........

anybody remember when the first wtc bombers tried to get their money back on the rental van they blew up?...lol


senior`haskell...briefcase at the ready...
 
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Are you purposefully altering the actual article in the Times? I normally don't research your personal jihad against the NYT, but since I can't sleep I decided to visit their website. Here's what I found on the front page:

6 Men Arrested in a Terror Plot Against Fort Dix
Laura Pedrick for The New York Times

CAMDEN, N.J., May 8 ? Six Muslim men from New Jersey and Philadelphia were charged Tuesday with plotting to attack Fort Dix with automatic weapons and possibly even rocket-propelled grenades, vowing in taped conversations ?to kill as many soldiers as possible,? federal authorities said.

The arrests came after a 15-month investigation during which the F.B.I. and two informers who had infiltrated the group taped them training with automatic weapons in rural Pennsylvania, conducting surveillance of military bases in the Northeast, watching videos of Osama bin Laden and the 9/11 hijackers and trying to buy AK-47 assault rifles.

The authorities described the suspects as Islamic extremists and said they represented the newest breed of threat: loosely organized domestic militants unconnected to ? but inspired by ? Al Qaeda or other international terror groups.

But the criminal complaint that details the plot describes an effort that was alternately ambitious and clumsy, with the men at turns declaring themselves eager to sacrifice their lives in the name of Allah and worrying about getting arrested or deported for buying weapons or possessing a map of a military base.

The suspects include three ethnic Albanian brothers who entered the United States illegally, part of a family that has lived for years in Cherry Hill, N.J., where they attended public schools and relatives ran a roofing business and a pizzeria. They were joined by their brother-in-law, who was born in Jordan and is a United States citizen, and two other legal United states residents: an ethnic Albanian from the former Yugoslavia, and a Turk who lived in Philadelphia.

The men, ages 22 to 28, held jobs ranging from roofer to cabdriver to pizza deliveryman, and had no clear motivation other than their stated desire to kill United States soldiers in the name of Islam. They considered a variety of targets, including the annual Army-Navy football game and warships docked in the Port of Philadelphia, but ultimately dismissed Dover Air Force Base in Delaware as having too much security and picked Fort Dix largely because one of their fathers owned a restaurant nearby that delivered to the base.

The authorities first caught up with the men in January 2006, when personnel at a video store alerted the authorities after the suspects requested that he transfer onto a DVD a videotape of the group shouting about jihad as they fired assault weapons at a range in the Pocono Mountains.

?This is a new brand of terrorism where a small cell of people can bring enormous devastation,? Christopher J. Christie, the United States attorney for New Jersey, said at an afternoon news conference at the courthouse here.

As the suspects were charged before a United States magistrate judge, Joel Schneider, prosecutors described a complicated operation that was marked by deadly weapons but also lacking in sophistication. The authorities said one of the men had been a sniper in Kosovo, and as they sought to amass the weapons they intended to use in the attack, members of the cell were training with automatic rifles at a shooting range in Gouldsboro, Pa.

?When it comes to defending your religion, when someone is trying to attack your religion, your way of life, then you go jihad,? Eljvir Duka, 23, who also went by the nickname Elvis, is quoted as saying in the complaint. His elder brother Dritan Duka, who is 28 and known as Tony, said at another point that ?as far as people, we have enough.?

?Seven people, and we are all crazy,? Dritan Duka said. ?We can do a lot of damage with seven people.?

Federal agents said that it was unclear when the attack was to take place, because in the taped conversations the suspects said they were waiting for a fatwa, or authorization from an Islamic cleric. But prosecutors and officials said they had no doubt that the suspects were both capable and determined to strike.

?Today we dodged a bullet,? J. P. Weiss, special agent in charge of the F.B.I.?s Philadelphia office, said at the news conference. ?In fact, when you look at the type of weapons that this group was trying to purchase, we may have dodged a lot of bullets.?

Mr. Weiss added: ?We had a group that was forming a platoon to take on an army. They identified their target, they did their reconnaissance. They had maps. And they were in the process of buying weapons. Luckily, we were able to stop that.?

In Washington, senior law enforcement officials said that while the charges against those arrested were serious, there was no evidence that they were connected with any foreign terrorist organizations or broader conspiracy.

?They appear to be individuals who were actively perusing radical Web sites and began shooting weapons, doing surveillance and trying to get some advanced weaponry,? said one official who spoke on the condition of anonymity, because the matter was still under investigation.

Three of the suspects are brothers and their family lives in this house in Cherry Hill, N.J.

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.....It gets kinda boring after that, but the article sure didn't seem to be shying away from Islamic jihad terms. They spelled it out the same way Fox News or pretty much anyone who reported.
 

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Nice going Weasel. Looks like the unaltered NYT article was quite detailed, actually.

Did you change it yourself, or did you just blithely copy and paste it from some right-wing blog?
 

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i think maybe smurph altered the article.....lol

find me where the times describes these guys as "radical islamists"..the fbi press release does......the times won`t even use the word "muslim" or "islam" in this article(unless quoting a spokesman defending them)........

btw...this is an actual link...not a copy and paste...

post your linky,please..

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/08/us/08cnd-dix.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

apology accepted...thank me very much...
 

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Are you purposefully altering the actual article in the Times? I normally don't research your personal jihad against the NYT, but since I can't sleep I decided to visit their website. Here's what I found on the front page:



In Weasel defense he has learn from some of the best in altering the news to fit his agenda. His problem here is he forgot people can check his work. I guess he forgot about this watching Fox News who can say anything without a rebuttal. when there is a rebuttal it is usually followed with a quick commercial. Weasel there are no commercials in here.
 

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Let's captiously ask. Under surveillance for 16 months. 6 morons to take on Ft Dix. Given toy guns(they didn't no the dif), had their CDs burnt at a convenience store and the clerk broke the plot that had an FBI informant.
My Question: Who is more stupid? Us or the Morons who held a press conference as though it were to be believed. In a month it will be buried along side of the Miami terror plot, waiting for the mid west southern and western plots to be hatched.
 

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Are you purposefully altering the actual article in the Times? I normally don't research your personal jihad against the NYT, but since I can't sleep I decided to visit their website. Here's what I found on the front page:



In Weasel defense he has learn from some of the best in altering the news to fit his agenda. His problem here is he forgot people can check his work. I guess he forgot about this watching Fox News who can say anything without a rebuttal. when there is a rebuttal it is usually followed with a quick commercial. Weasel there are no commercials in here.


in spongy`s defense,he obviously can`t read as i posted a direct link to the exact article i mentioned.....

my buddy,you position the little computer screen arrow on the underlined sentence.....and push the little button located at the top left of the thingee...the thingee that`s attached to your computer...the computer that rests on top of the lawn furniture sitting in your living room.......

thwack!!!......../spongy slapping his forehead.
 

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Let's captiously ask. Under surveillance for 16 months. 6 morons to take on Ft Dix. Given toy guns(they didn't no the dif), had their CDs burnt at a convenience store and the clerk broke the plot that had an FBI informant.
My Question: Who is more stupid? Us or the Morons who held a press conference as though it were to be believed. In a month it will be buried along side of the Miami terror plot, waiting for the mid west southern and western plots to be hatched.


answer: i`d guess the jihadis....after all,they could have gone to radio shack and bought a "camera mate video safe" for 40 bucks and transferred the thing themselves......

and you could throw richard reid in the mix....if he`d stopped at a gift shop and picked up a lighter,instead of trying to use matches,his shoe bomb plot might have succeeded...

i guess we should be glad that "holy warriors" are often not the sharpest tacks in the drawer....
 
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i think maybe smurph altered the article.....lol

find me where the times describes these guys as "radical islamists"..the fbi press release does......the times won`t even use the word "muslim" or "islam" in this article(unless quoting a spokesman defending them)........

btw...this is an actual link...not a copy and paste...

post your linky,please..

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/08/us/08cnd-dix.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

apology accepted...thank me very much...

OK, here is my link.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/us/09plot.html

As pointed out above, there should be enough terms describing these people as radical Islamists to keep you satisfied.

You know, it could be, that when the story was 'breaking' they wanted to be safe and report only what they absolutely knew. Still, they made references to "jihad", "terrorism", and "allah"....it doesn't take a genius, you know? Obviously as the day went on they included more detail about the Muslim status of the culprits.

Maybe you should give them like a few hours or so before jumping the gun on how much they hate freedom and America. But whatever.
 
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Thought comes to mind - again - when viewing where these terrorists were from, how few original Iraqi terrorists there seem to be. Hmm...
 

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in spongy`s defense,he obviously can`t read as i posted a direct link to the exact article i mentioned.....

my buddy,you position the little computer screen arrow on the underlined sentence.....and push the little button located at the top left of the thingee...the thingee that`s attached to your computer...the computer that rests on top of the lawn furniture sitting in your living room.......

thwack!!!......../spongy slapping his forehead.

Weasal i went with smurph's word which has a lot more weight than yours when it comes to politics. Beside you never know what you get when u open up one of your sites. Might be some of those disturbing pictures you like to post.
The lawn furniture in my living room? now why take a shot at me like that? I bet my game room is bigger than your house. Few bar stolls in there no lawn chairs. They are still in my 50 year old shed that needs some help. What is next you gonna say i work at Mcdonalds.:nono:
 

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Weasal i went with smurph's word which has a lot more weight than yours when it comes to politics. Beside you never know what you get when u open up one of your sites. Might be some of those disturbing pictures you like to post.
The lawn furniture in my living room? now why take a shot at me like that? I bet my game room is bigger than your house. Few bar stolls in there no lawn chairs. They are still in my 50 year old shed that needs some help. What is next you gonna say i work at Mcdonalds.:nono:

bro...bubby.....c`mon...a little friendly ribbing.....no need to get your turban in a twist...

""Weasal i went with smurph's word which has a lot more weight than yours when it comes to politics.""

well,that`s not surprising....smurph`s got quite a strong "pimp hand"......
 

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bro...bubby.....c`mon...a little friendly ribbing.....no need to get your turban in a twist...

""Weasal i went with smurph's word which has a lot more weight than yours when it comes to politics.""

well,that`s not surprising....smurph`s got quite a strong "pimp hand"......
Sponge, like all of God's children, has free will. I can't speak for the other areas of his life, but he happens to have good judgement whens it comes to trusting myself over you in the political credibility department.

Plus, Jack likes him. It's always good to be trusted by a guy the boss likes. My dream of running madsaulsports.com is one tiny step closer.
 

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Sponge, like all of God's children, has free will.
Plus, Jack likes him. It's always good to be trusted by a guy the boss likes. My dream of running madsaulsports.com is one tiny step closer.

i have no problem with spongy feeling the need to fellate yourself and kosar on a semi-regular basis.....it`s all good...

but invoking "god`s" name when you deem`s it convenient?......i won`t say hypocritical(as libs seem very techy here of late)....but,let`s just say you`re more than a tad "ambiguous".......lol

btw...i like spongy,too......he`s my nizzle....he just hangs with a bad crowd...
 

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I have never been hypocritical when it comes to religion and I've never dismissed the possible existence of God.

What's with some of yall's obsession with gay sex acts when dealing with people you don't agree with? It's downright creepy, man.
 

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I have never been hypocritical when it comes to religion and I've never dismissed the possible existence of God.

What's with some of yall's obsession with gay sex acts when dealing with people you don't agree with? It's downright creepy, man.


what makes you think i`m obsessed with gay sex acts?....

btw...may i call you "pooncakes"?....:sadwave:
 

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yes, please do not waste your metaphors on me. i would be honored to join bryanz on this exclusive list of yours.
 
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