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Oh the shame--expects the ACLU and Amnesty International will be all over this :)


Terror Suspect Claims Torture by Americans, Not Enough Entertainment at Guantanamo Bay
Tuesday, May 15, 2007

WASHINGTON ? An accused enemy combatant held at Guantanamo Bay told a military hearing he was physically as well as mentally tortured there by having to read a newsletter full of 'crap,' being forced to use unscented deodorant and shampoo and having to play sports with a ball that would not bounce.

Majid Khan of Pakistan denied any connection to Al Qaeda and said he was tortured and his family hounded by U.S. authorities, according to a redacted transcript released Tuesday by the Pentagon.

Khan told an April 15 hearing called to determine whether he was rightly classified as an "enemy combatant" that he also had his baby pictures taken from him, that cleaners left marks on his cell walls and that detainees have no DVD players or other entertainment.

At one point, Kan said he wrote on his walls, "stop torturing me, I need my mails, newspaper and my lawyer."

Khan was captured in Pakistan in 2003. The military says he has provided support to Al Qaeda and has expressed a desire to assassinate Pakistan's President Pervez Musharaff. U.S. government authorities have said that Khan was also involved in plots to blow up American gas stations and poison U.S. reservoirs. The April 15 hearing is the first step in possible war crimes charges against him.


In a lengthy written statement, Khan said the CIA and the Defense Department tortured him after his capture in Pakistan as well as when he was transferred to the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.

"I swear to God this place in some sense worst than CIA jails. I am being mentally torture here," said Khan in a statement read by his personal representative about his time in Guantanamo. "There is extensive torture even for the smallest of infractions."

Chunks of the transcript were removed, including what appears to be additional discussion of torture, including during his detention by the CIA.

"The redaction of Majid Khan's testimony regarding his treatment in the CIA secret program strengthens the view that the administration has something to hide," said Priti Patel, an assistant attorney at Human Rights First. "Covering up abuses in this way is a strategy guaranteed to backfire."

The transcript, however, includes detailed descriptions of what Khan said was abuse at Guantanamo. He said he has been unable to see his daughter, was denied communal recreation for 11 weeks, went four weeks without sunlight and fresh air, was deprived of basic or comfort items for three weeks, had his beard shaved twice and was forced to wear a protective suicide prevention smock.

And he complained that he was only given cheap unscented soap and shampoo, and that in the recreation room there is "no weight lifting machine, no toilet, no sink, ho hoops, and even balls them self have little air in them; they hardly bounce."

"They know my weaknesses ? what drive me crazy and what doesn't," he said.

Khan, who grew up in Maryland and is the only U.S. resident among 15 detainees the government considers most dangerous, also described suicide attempts where he "chewed my artery which goes through my elbow." And he said he went on hunger strikes to pressure authorities to either charge him or send him back to Pakistan.

The CIA and Pentagon have said their interrogations practices are legal and that they do not use torture.

"He has been treated humanely while in Department of Defense custody," said Navy Cmdr. Jeffrey Gordon, a Pentagon spokesman.

In the 39-page transcript, Khan, his father and a Ohio truck driver convicted of supporting terrorism ? all denied that Khan is a terrorist.

Khan's father, however, provided the most graphic descriptions of his son's treatment at the hands of U.S. authorities, in a written statement that also was included in the hearing record.

Ali Shoukat Khan said his son was kidnapped in Pakistan and that there, Americans tortured his son "for eight hours at a time, tying him tightly in stressful positions in a small chair until his hands, feet and mind went numb. ... He was often hooded and had difficulty breathing. They also beat him repeatedly, slapping him in the face, and deprived him of sleep."

The elder Khan, a retired gas station owner, said his son is not a terrorist and demanded that the government present its evidence, "charge him with a crime and give him a fair trial in a real court." He also said he and his family were pressured by the FBI to speculate about his son's activities.

The FBI, he said, "followed us everywhere we went for a long time, requiring us to tell them in advance where we were going and what we were going to do there."

During the hearing, the government said Majid Khan told others that he wanted to "martyr himself" in a plot to assassinate Musharraf. They quoted his father and brother saying that Khan was involved with "a group he believed to be Al Qaeda" and was involved in transporting people across the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

U.S. intelligence also says Khan's cousin and uncle, who were both members of Al Qaeda, introduced Khan to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, who in a similar hearing at Guantanamo Bay depicted himself as Al Qaeda's most prolific planner.

Together, the government says, Kahn and Mohammed plotted terrorist attacks in the United States. Khan also is said to have helped pick possible operatives, including Iyman Faris, an Ohio truck driver who is now serving 20 years in prison for supporting terrorism. Faris was studying how to destroy New York City suspension bridges.

Faris submitted a statement for the hearing, and said he was coerced and tricked by the FBI into make statements about Khan. "If I don't tell them what they wanted to hear, they were gong to take me to Gitmo (Guantanamo)."

At times struggling to piece sentences together in broken English, Majid Khan told the hearing that it is difficult to prove he is not associated with Al Qaeda, and challenged the tribunal members to say how they would prove it if such charges were made against them.

"It is very difficult to prove that someone is not Al Qaeda," he said. "If you were in my shoes, I would like to know that how can you prove it, that you yourself are not Al Qaeda? And if you can't, then I can't either."

Khan is the last of the 14 original high-value detainees to complete his hearing, called a Combatant Status Review Tribunal. The hearings are to determine whether the detainees are correctly classified as enemy combatants eligible to be tried for war crimes by a military commission. Reporters were not allowed access to any of the hearings, but censored transcripts of all 14 have been released by the Pentagon.

Late last month the Pentagon announced that a 15th high-value detainee ? Abdul Hadi al-Iraqi, captured late last year and formerly held by the CIA ? had arrived at Guantanamo. He has not yet had his hearing.

FOX News' Jennifer Griffin and Nick Simeone and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

Chadman

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How have the hearings gone? How about the other 13 previous ones...I honestly don't know, and would like to know.

Interesting that only parts of his testimony were released, other parts were hidden as far as his treatment goes. Of course, we may never know the story of any of these people - at least I don't know any of them at this point. Maybe you have some liberal links to share, Wayne, since that's all you care to post or talk about anymore? Certainly not anything of substance in any other threads, when I'm around.

The key witness against the guy? Held in captivity, probably tortured to get him to say the guy was guilty. Maybe he was...does it take years to put a guy up to see if he should even be held? And you use coerced testimony from others threatened with inprisonment at those same facilities to make your "case"? And badger family members 24/y7 to get them to say something negative? Ah...speedy justice, to be sure.

Again, I don't know what's true or not going on down there. Just seems like you could actually charge someone in a reasonable time and present evidence in court to prove why they were taken in the first place? If guilty? Fine - we wouldn't even be having these discussions for the most part.
 

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what innocent person wouldn`t chew through the artery in their elbow for being tormented with cheap soap?.....

a no-brainer...
 

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AR, no I don't feel sorry for this guy.

I do wonder, however, what the real story is about ALL of "these guys". I just don't understand why it takes so long to paint a good, clear picture of why they are all actual terrorists if they truly are, and yes, I do still think we are a country of laws and due process would probably both prove they are guilty and get the show on the road.

Holding large groups of people for years on end, with no movement or explanations just makes our country lose some credibility. If they are guilty, fry 'em. If not, let 'em go. Seems pretty simple to me.

And Weasel, I'm not sure what any of these guys have been put through in captivity, but maybe chewing through an artery might be done out of frustration or fear of more torture? I don't know, but "no-brainer" doesn't work for me.
 

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AR, no I don't feel sorry for this guy.

I do wonder, however, what the real story is about ALL of "these guys". I just don't understand why it takes so long to paint a good, clear picture of why they are all actual terrorists if they truly are, and yes, I do still think we are a country of laws and due process would probably both prove they are guilty and get the show on the road.

Holding large groups of people for years on end, with no movement or explanations just makes our country lose some credibility. If they are guilty, fry 'em. If not, let 'em go. Seems pretty simple to me.

And Weasel, I'm not sure what any of these guys have been put through in captivity, but maybe chewing through an artery might be done out of frustration or fear of more torture? I don't know, but "no-brainer" doesn't work for me.

for all i care & would be willing to bet that most americans feel the same...they could rot in gitmo.
 
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