Putting things into a financial perspective . . . .

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i will put this one next to my debt clock. If you add it with the debt clock just put it under it and add it up. If you want to project two years from now you can probably put it to the left side of the debt running numbers. uughhh
 

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Wonder if you mind putting the cost of one day on Sept 11th on our economy in perspective for us, Gregg.

I have my #'s but we'll use yours if you wish to do it.
 

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Wonder if you mind putting the cost of one day on Sept 11th on our economy in perspective for us, Gregg.

I have my #'s but we'll use yours if you wish to do it.
Please explain to us again what 9/11 has to do with the war in Irag.
 

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There are some of us that believe that there are terrorist in iraq we are fighting--some of us even believe some of these terrorist are Alqueda--some of us believe better to fight them there than here--

--so for our benefit would you put the # of one day in Sept to a financial perspective.
 

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There are some of us that believe that there are terrorist in iraq we are fighting--some of us even believe some of these terrorist are Alqueda--some of us believe better to fight them there than here--

--so for our benefit would you put the # of one day in Sept to a financial perspective.
Silly me, I thought we we over there looking for WMD's. Isn't that what we told the United Nations?

I'm so confused!
 
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just thought "financial perspective" ought to be in
financial perspective-from all sides.

--since everyone has been avoiding put up the #--its about a trillion by conservative estimates--that for--ONE DAY

---and on your :mj07: thats what the terrorist and iran were doing on the liberals cut and run agenda--attorneys for terrorist--no embarrassing head choppers--Name/jhad # interrogatations--ect ect only they had a few:00hour also.

Maybe we can have truce on war per Saddam and terrorist--You let us catch em and do the fighting--and we'll leave the defending them and protesting to you ;)
 

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just thought "financial perspective" ought to be in
financial perspective-from all sides.

--since everyone has been avoiding put up the #--its about a trillion by conservative estimates--that for--ONE DAY
In case you misread the CostOfWar counter, the Iraqi war has cost us more than 427 times that amount. Even more disturbing is the fact that the war has claimed nearly 1,000 more American lives than the 9/11 attacks.

"Stay the course!"
 

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just thought "financial perspective" ought to be in
financial perspective-from all sides.

--since everyone has been avoiding put up the #--its about a trillion by conservative estimates--that for--ONE DAY

---and on your :mj07: thats what the terrorist and iran were doing on the liberals cut and run agenda--attorneys for terrorist--no embarrassing head choppers--Name/jhad # interrogatations--ect ect only they had a few:00hour also.

Maybe we can have truce on war per Saddam and terrorist--You let us catch em and do the fighting--and we'll leave the defending them and protesting to you ;)
You act like people have to either be pro-Iraq War or pro-9/11. Makes no sense. What gives?
 

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--since everyone has been avoiding put up the #--its about a trillion by conservative estimates--that for--ONE DAY

---and on your :mj07: attorneys for terrorist--
Name/jhad # interrogatations--

Maybe we can have truce on war per Saddam and terrorist--You let us catch em and do the fighting--and we'll leave the defending them and protesting to you ;)

So, 9-11 happened on Bush's watch, so he's on the docket for that expense. You certainly blame Clinton for the first attack, and anything while he was President. Fair is fair.

I'll ask again:

Show me where the DEMOCRATIC PARTY was behind Saddam's defense and not the individual attorney who was hired, and what the DEMOCRATS specifically had to do with a strict Name/Jihad # "interrogation" plan? Or where there is a strict Name/Jihad # interrogation plan at all, for that matter?

And, as for your truce plan - I have been firmly behind your party and administration going all out to capture the man responsible for the terror war and Al Qaida. We pretty much all have been behind that. We also find it frustating that your administration "cut and ran" with the majority of our efforts to capture or kill him. It's the fight against non-existent, mythical Iraqi terrorists that many of us are against.
 

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Chad remember thread on the big war protest and and Clark being one of main organizers--along with moveon and code pink which I believe are all liberal (not Dem) affiliates but few argue the point it is the liberal element making the Dem pres candidates jump through hoops.

Lets compromise-- you give me 5 dem leaders--and I'll do the research on their stance on electronic survalience--interrogation techniques--giving terrorist attorneys--and other terrorist rights.

Fair enough?

I believe however 90 percent of House Democrats voted against the NSA's Terrorist Surveillance Program--and 80 percent voted against the terrorist interrogation bill

--and while on subject of terrorists --would be curious of your opinion of Ombama's solution of doubling foreign aid.
 
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Pretty small sandbox you continue to want to play in - the one you build for these arguments, by the way. I entered it, and asked you for specifics on your claim about the two things I mentioned, and now I need to come up with five dem leaders so you can pick them apart? If you care to answer my questions directly - not with spin and a reference to a non-point thread that is not the same thing - then I will play in your sandbox. If you don't, then why should I?

For the record, I am referring to illegal, unreported wiretaps without following existing law, and I think there are a majority of democrats and a lot of republicans who are against that. The interrogation techniques - well, just answer my question that you continue to hint that the dems are behind - the one where dems only want terrorists to reveal their name and Jihad number. Tired of the blurring of positions and spin here.

As for my interpretation of Obama's call for doubling foreign aid...I DID address this in another thread and posed questions to you, and you ignored them - or didn't see them. Not unusual, of course. But my comment about that is that I would like a complete review of all of our foreign aid program, where it goes, how much, and what we get for it. Including Israel, and other countries. If his idea is that we increase foreign aid to countries who measurably work in the U.S. best interests, especially in the war on terror to root out terrorists, spread democracy and improve civil rights and a good way of life for citizens, I would entertain that as an interesting thought. I don't know enough about his proposal or plan to comment further. But I will look at it more.
 

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The good news Dems are trying to put a harness on Bush.
Other good news. S & P almost back to where it once was 7 years ago.
However Milk at record levels with Bread and Gas. Oh insurance for health care at all time high. And health care of course we need not talk about the cost it's a killer.
Good news Iraq is almost done and we can stop waisting our future on lies.
 

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Sorry my friend but every time you bring up economy and what this adin and war has cost I must remind you what really cost you and that is political bias in life.

I'll be a little more explicit this time--per your post when on the what Clinton did for your company stock--and your selling it when Bush got in.

Lets put things in what Gregg would refer to as
--financial perspective

An employee for ASD who sold their stocks on 11-07-00 lost out on gain of $131,150 per 1000 shares.--what they made during Clintons term would barily pay the tax under gain in this admin--and you could buy a lot of gas-milk.

Don't let politics and press cloud your judgement.
 
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I don't think you will find here I said I started selling out before 2002 & 03/04. I still have some left. And yes I went with HAL and XOM to. Join-em why fight it. Im still sitting on XOM but am ready for some profits taking. However S & P 500 has so many more then just a few stocks. The recovery is now complete for Dow and S & P. Everyone should be caught up But those who were to deep in Nas. Took way to long for this recovery. Just shows you need more then tax breaks for top 2 %
And yes to many items are way to expensive.
 

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I am glad you did DJV and you know I wish you the best.

Just saying no one from either party should let politics dictate other decisions in life unless the reason is political.

I have lumber broker in office bldg that is prime example--he lets emotion dictate selling and buying--gets mad as hell when market tanks and sells--then after it has good run up he buys--

Remember he was ranting about market one day and made comment he sold all his stocks and wasn't buying again until GW was out of office. I told him unless GW was picking his stocks he needs to put blame where it belongs.
 
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