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Saw Bill out campaigning with Hilliary and telling crowd that since he's been eligible to vote he has never seen candidate more qualified for Pres than Hilliary--of course he didn't give one qualification--so thought would be interesting if anyone could give us any.
 

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Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 ? ratified February 27, 1951
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.



That's about it.
 

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Job qualifications for President of the United States
By: Don Nash
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Oct. 11, 2004


I am of the opinion that anyone holding the Office of the President of the United States of America should have first served our nation in the military. I am referring to the regular military, not some cushy ?my daddy got me in here? service. That the aforementioned service has been completed ?honorably? and without any questions about attendance or being absent without leave. A command position that drives home the responsibility for human life. It would also be nice if funny little concepts like integrity, honor, duty, sacrifice, fidelity, and humility were learned in real time service. That does not seem like an unreasonable requirement for our presidents.

Anyone holding the presidency should be smart -- world class smart. PhD or better and even MENSA smart. Presidents should to be able to grasp world issues and events. Presidents should understand consequences from actions. Presidents should be able to converse with world leaders in their own language, and able to think outside the box. Presidents should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time and still be smart enough to know that one crisis situation may not necessarily mean pushing the nuclear button and thereby bringing civilization to a sudden and catastrophic end.

Presidents must be spiritual. Not religious extremists or zealots or even be in some kind of political debt to one particular religious group, but the president should be sensitive to spiritual pain, hurt, suffering, the thirst for justice, and the divine dynamic of equality among all people.

All presidents should be able to write their own speeches. The leader of the free world should be able to express his or her thoughts and ideals effectively. Putting one?s thoughts on paper requires some discipline and some cognitive function. Discipline and cognitive function are conjoined twins in the intellectual life of world class leaders. A president that depends on a speech writer to communicate what that president is thinking/feeling on any issue, is suspicious and calls into question a president?s mental capacity. After the last four years that America has been through, a president?s mental capacity should be a serious consideration for every human on the planet.

America?s president should be family-centric. Presidents need to have that first hand experience with bringing up little Timmy and little Susie. Presidents need to experience the joy and soul searing pain of raising children. Presidents need to know the thrill of ?puberty? and the abject fear of the ?dating years?.

In the ?my perfect presidential world?, all presidents would be damned circumspect about committing our nation to war. If the ?ideal? president has completed their military service, they are fully aware of the costs of war. I?m not referring to the cost to the American taxpayer, but the real cost of war on families, soldiers, wives, children, and on society in general. The ?ideal? president would, at the time of committing our nation to war, authorize an executive order that would automatically induct the president?s own children into the military. If it is perfectly acceptable for any American family to sacrifice their children, it is perfectly acceptable for our president to make the same sacrifice. It also has the distinct advantage of putting the serious nature of war directly into the West Wing of the White House. Sauce for a goose is sauce for a gander. Americans have been getting ?goosed? by our nation?s presidents for a very long time and there is no time like the present for our president to provide a little sacrifice of the president?s very own. The Twins Go To War would make an interesting Disney movie.

Our presidents need to be able to visualize the affected faces of war ... "collateral damage" tends to be nothing more than a sound bite on CNN and that hardly makes for the reality being felt. Our presidents need to be provided with first hand accounts from the grunts that man the front lines, of the death and horror and the brutality and the carnage that is the innocent dying.

Our presidents must never start preemptive wars for some other nation. In this instance, I would use Israel as an example of what our presidents shouldn?t do. Our presidents must never allow our military to be used as pawns in the Israeli/Palestinian hate-fest. Our presidents must keep themselves and our nation above a neo-conservative dogmatic insanity that displaces the aptly trained and highly skilled military personnel that have this responsibility in the first place. I am referring to the military?s ability to access threats and dangers. Our presidents should be encouraged to terminate the services of Secretaries of Defense that circumvent the military?s abilities to do their jobs properly.

Our nation?s presidents should read and understand the Geneva Conventions. Our presidents need to ensure that our nation?s high-ranking offers read and understand the Geneva Convention and then not get cutesy with legal obfuscation regarding the legalities of torture.

Our presidents need to be fully bound by the Treaty for the International Criminal Court. One president's decision to go preemptive on Iraq for whatever convoluted reason he may have chosen or changed the rationale over, through the course of about 18 months, does not exempt them from being tried as a ?war criminal?. Baretta (Robert Blake) used to say before he so mindlessly disgraced himself, ?don?t do the crime if you can?t do the time.?

Most of these items I?ve listed here should be addressed by our nation?s Constitution. Fortunately, Senator Boring Hatch (R-Utah), Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and author of numerous proposed Constitutional amendments, is a personal friend of mine. The very next time that we get together for some beers and political gossip at Hooters, I?m going to bring all this up with the good Senator.
 

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Saw Bill out campaigning with Hilliary and telling crowd that since he's been eligible to vote he has never seen candidate more qualified for Pres than Hilliary--of course he didn't give one qualification--so thought would be interesting if anyone could give us any.

Bill was obviously covering up for her and had no intention of exposing her blank resume. Bill is as slick as ever.

Your grasping at straws (as usual) Wayne.
 

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Of course I can give you plenty, and I will in a little while. Again, if the current goat-roping dry-drunk jackass can hold the office of the presidency, Hillary can. We can start with carrying herself with class and being an excellent public speaker and debater for three - all traits of which the current president has never had.
 

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Of course I can give you plenty, and I will in a little while. Again, if the current goat-roping dry-drunk jackass can hold the office of the presidency, Hillary can. We can start with carrying herself with class and being an excellent public speaker and debater for three - all traits of which the current president has never had.

--a little late for that ;)

but lets forget the past--and let her start over since she began campaign--does class speak t folks with suspect southern draw down south and northern accent up north--what about the hand holding hugs and kisses with Bill on campaign trail--

Don't tell me you can't see a chameleon/politician?
Your not sipping are you :)
P.S. Kerry and Bill were excellent public speakers--
Apparently you don't care what they tell you as long as they do it eloquently--

Pretty tough standards from the guy on the latter Gregg --can't see person fitting that description being a politician---
 
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Saw Bill out campaigning with Hilliary and telling crowd that since he's been eligible to vote he has never seen candidate more qualified for Pres than Hilliary--of course he didn't give one qualification--so thought would be interesting if anyone could give us any.

That is his opinion and as a free man in America he is entitled to it. I don't like her, would never vote for her. From where I sit & the system of government we have, does it really matter who is president ? More than 50% of us that are over the age of 18 could care less, we don't vote in this country. Our system of government is so screwed up from the local level right up to the federal government, trying to fix America by electing the next president is like trying to find the light at the end of a black hole ! Does it really matter who the president is ? The last two elections have been so close and most of the American people by all the polls think they were wrong about the president that they voted for and were wrong about the democrats that they voted for in the house and the senate. Where do we go from here, has to be the question of those few who vote.
 

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Who is qualified ? What makes you qualified ? Let's take John McCain. He comes from a long line who gave distinguished service in our countries military. He was a prisoner of war and has served as a senator. What is he qualified for ? He gets high marks as a prisoner of war but we are in a war that the enemy doesn't take prisoners, at least not for long. I think time has passed him by. If this was 1969 I'd vote for him. Over the coming days I will run down the candidates for you !
 

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DOGS THAT BARK said:
Pretty tough standards from the guy on the latter Gregg --can't see person fitting that description being a politician---
Wayne, please elaborate because I do not understand this reference.
 

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Gregg Was referring to your 2nd post--
Job qualifications for President of the United States
By: Don Nash
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Oct. 11, 2004

---My remark was meant to say he had lots of good qualifications--too good for most politicians.

Brantz Never said anyone wasn't entitled to opinion but some of us would like reasoning on blanket statement--and I believe thread was intened to point out those qualifications and haven't seen anyone come up with any yet--with exception of Chad comments on her being good speaker.

While some might be of the opinion Bill is an honest -moral- man of character--that hardly makes it so now--does it.:)
 

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Gregg Was referring to your 2nd post--
Job qualifications for President of the United States
By: Don Nash
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Oct. 11, 2004

---My remark was meant to say he had lots of good qualifications--too good for most politicians.

Brantz Never said anyone wasn't entitled to opinion but some of us would like reasoning on blanket statement--and I believe thread was intened to point out those qualifications and haven't seen anyone come up with any yet--with exception of Chad comments on her being good speaker.

While some might be of the opinion Bill is an honest -moral- man of character--that hardly makes it so now--does it.:)
That depends on what your definition of honest and moral is ??
I'll tell you what her qualifications are : she like the rest of the group that is running is a member of the two major parties, has name recognition and is able to raise the money to run. Those are the basic qualifications to be president. Bill was elected by your fellow citizens twice for the same job. I think that puts him in an elite group and qualifies him as an expert to render an opinion on this subject. There is no qualifications to be president. It is very subjective. One mans qualified candidate is an others unqualified candidate.
 

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"That depends on what your definition of honest and moral is ??"

let me ask you for your definition then--

Would you feel comfortable giving him your life savings if said don't be worried brantz :nono: trust me-would I lie?

or he picked your daughter to do some campaign work with pocket full of cigars and said--:nono: trust me brantz I'll take care of her-- :SIB
 

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--a little late for that ;)

but lets forget the past--and let her start over since she began campaign--does class speak t folks with suspect southern draw down south and northern accent up north--what about the hand holding hugs and kisses with Bill on campaign trail--

Don't tell me you can't see a chameleon/politician?
Your not sipping are you :)
P.S. Kerry and Bill were excellent public speakers--
Apparently you don't care what they tell you as long as they do it eloquently--

Pretty tough standards from the guy on the latter Gregg --can't see person fitting that description being a politician---

I just don't buy what you're trying to sell here. Of course there are things to criticize when it comes to Hillary and any politician. I do see a chameleon/politician in much of what she does - as I do in most who are blatantly campaigning for office. But let's examine your assertions/judgments here.

First, I am going to have to add your "let's forget the past" reference when dealing with Hillary to my sig - the most uproarious comment I've seen by anyone in this forum - beating out Dubbya's that I've used for so long.

I don't see AT ALL where hugging and kissing your spouse when campaigning shows any lack of class whatsoever. I rarely assume any couple at this level to be all roses and chocolates, and to call that classless really doesn't make sense to me. Political show? Sure. Which campaigning couple doesn't do that? Even the ones you know who have had trouble? But classless? Don't see what class has to do with it. And as for speaking with a southern twinge in the south - for a woman who spent many years in ARKINSAW, for crying out loud - has any class relation. It's politics, it's smart, it's done all the time by those trying to win favor with possible voters. Political show? Sure. Politics. But classless? Don't see the relation. Don't all politicians present their speeches in ways best suited for their audience? Don't they change the content of the speech to appeal to the audience? Of course they do, and if they are skilled and experienced, they can alter their delivery methods, as well.

As for me not caring what they tell me as long as they do it eloquently, I don't follow that at all. Personally, yes, I do think it's VERY important for the person I vote for President to be able to hold themselves well and communicate their position and message well in public - or private. I think Hillary probably would do a better job of this than most of the current candidates. Bill was awesome at this, and Kerry was very good, although a bit stodgy. Hillary is a great public speaker, and I feel would handle the office of President from a communications standpoint very well. I won't even remotely compare her to our current "communicator" in this thread...that's just not fair.

I do care very much what people are telling me in political speeches. I believe in much of what she and other democratic candidates are talking about. I know that you don't, so you want to destroy both the message and messenger.

The one thing that is undeniable for anyone with a pulse is that it certainly is too late for our current President to communicate anything effectively. Hopefully whoever takes over next semester can start repairing the damage he has done to the highest communications office in the land. Hillary would do a great job with that.
 

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has lowered the bar. The saying "Anyone can become President" it's true. If a dummy like GWB can become President how low does your IQ have to be for you not to get the job. How can the American public allow this to happen? Don't think it won't happen again, because it will. America is a scary place to live.
 

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Just give me anyone under the age of 60/61. I'm looking for fresh ideas. I'm looking for someone who knows how to keep a family together. Not just show up in church's and say they got religion.
Funny thing that USA question about a month back. Bill beats all candidates running past and present BUT ONE And the old move star Ronny beat him. Carter and Bush 2 tied for worse.
So tell me what qualification.
 
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