ABC Poll on Republican Debate Winner

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Who do you think won the Republican debate?

Ron Paul - 32,552
Mitt Romney - 4,111
Rudy Giuliani - 3,030
Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic. - 3,015
Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race. - 2,724
Mike Huckabee - 2,497
Sam Brownback - 1,018
Tom Tancredo - 716
John McCain - 684
Duncan Hunter - 402
Tommy Thompson - 401

Total Vote: 51,150


Dr. Paul in a landslide!
 

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Who do you think won the Republican debate?

Ron Paul - 32,552
Mitt Romney - 4,111
Rudy Giuliani - 3,030
Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic. - 3,015
Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race. - 2,724
Mike Huckabee - 2,497
Sam Brownback - 1,018
Tom Tancredo - 716
John McCain - 684
Duncan Hunter - 402
Tommy Thompson - 401

Total Vote: 51,150


Dr. Paul in a landslide!

The weasel will be along any second talking about his '0%' support. Stay tuned.
 

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WTF!!! Is the world filled with morons? I don't even care about stupid internet polls....until they show how moronic they are.

I give you exhibit A:
Who do you think won the Republican debate?

-Sam Brownback
-Rudy Giuliani
-Mike Huckabee
-Duncan Hunter
-John McCain
-Ron Paul
-Mitt Romney
-Tom Tancredo
-Tommy Thompson
-Nobody won. I'm voting Democratic.
-Nobody. I'm waiting for Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich to enter the race.

What idiot wrote in the last two options????

Might as well post the following poll at ESPN.com and discuss it.

Who won the Cubs - Mets game last night?

-Mets
-Cubs
-Neither. I'm a hockey fan.
-Neither. I'm waiting for the Tigers to play.
 

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I was very surprised the applause Paul got when giving his answers.
 

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"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)


We were always told that our vote in America counts, now i'am not so sure. It's a shame.
 

The Judge

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"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)


We were always told that our vote in America counts, now i'am not so sure. It's a shame.
Spy, you can't really be serious about this, can you?

Consider the following quote, if you will, which people on the Web have been tossing around like a towel in a men's room ever since Florida disrupted our national slumber for the second time in a year.

"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)

Now, I don't want to sound too obvious here ... But has anyone ever wondered why a man who;
A) Never had to stand for election for anything, and
B) Never had to hold an election for anything, and
C) Would ordinarily never give a crap about anything to do with elections in general since he was a TOTALITARIAN DICTATOR ... would even care about votes at all?

I mean, it's not like the guy needed anyone's votes for anything. In terms of being undemocratic and thoroughly unconcerned with elections, you'd be hard pressed to find a better poster boy for electoral indifference than Stalin. He had 20 million Russians murdered just because he could, which by itself makes Hitler, Idi Amin and Slobodan Milosevic all look like a bunch of kids sitting around on a playground busting toy pistol caps with a rock.

Now, if someone like, say, Papa Doc Duvalier, or William Marcy Tweed of Tammany Hall fame or Fernando Marcos said something like that ? or better yet, if Slobodan Milosevic or even Hitler said something like that ? this would be a really powerful quote! (Tweed did say something similar ? I think his quote was roughly "As long as I count the votes, what are you going to do about it?") And all the guys I mention in this paragraph at least pretended to have an election.

But since our boy Stalin pretty much acquired his political power using the Machiavelli playbook and to the best of my knowledge (I could be wrong here) never once stood for election, I find this quote to be highly suspect, and thus a potential Net hoax. If you essentially got the top job in the Soviet Union through internal Communist political intrigue and mayhem, why would you logically make a statement like this?
 
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He probably would have got 100% of vote on KOS website. :)

Ron Paul's $400 Million Earmarks
Monday , August 06, 2007

By Brit Hume

Pet Projects

Texas congressman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul ? who is campaigning as a critic of congressional overspending ? has revealed that he is requesting $400 million worth of earmarks this year.

The Wall Street Journal reports Paul's office says those requests include $8 million for the marketing of wild American shrimp and $2.3 million to pay for research into shrimp fishing.

A spokesman says, "Reducing earmarks does not reduce government spending, and it does not prohibit spending upon those things that are earmarked. What people who push earmark reform are doing is they are particularly misleading the public ? and I have to presume it's not by accident."
 
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Borrowed this from another site. It seemed appropriate. Seems like Newt is borrowing Ron Paul's 'lines'




Gingrich says war on terror 'phony'

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The Ron Paul effect?

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Washington ? Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Thursday the Bush administration is waging a "phony war" on terrorism, warning that the country is losing ground against the kind of Islamic radicals who attacked the country on Sept. 11, 2001.


A more effective approach, said Gingrich, would begin with a national energy strategy aimed at weaning the country from its reliance on imported oil and some of the regimes that petro-dollars support.


"None of you should believe we are winning this war. There is no evidence that we are winning this war," the ex-Georgian told a group of about 300 students attending a conference for collegiate conservatives.


Gingrich, who led the so-called Republican Revolution that won the GOP control of both houses of Congress in 1994 midterm elections, said more must be done to marshal national resources to combat Islamic militants at home and abroad and to prepare the country for future attack. He was unstinting in his criticism of his fellow Republicans, in the White House and on Capitol Hill.


"We were in charge for six years," he said, referring to the period between 2001 and early 2007, when the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress.



"I don't think you can look and say that was a great success."


Thursday's National Conservative Student Conference was sponsored by the Young America's Foundation, a Herndon, Va.-based group founded in the 1960s as a political counterpoint to the left-leaning activists who coalesced around the civil rights movement and opposition to the Vietnam War.


Gingrich retains strong support among conservatives and ranked fifth among possible Republican nominees behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, with the backing of 7 percent of those queried in a ABC News/Washington Post poll taken last week. The poll surveyed 403 Republicans and Republican-leaning adults nationwide and has a 5 percentage-point margin of error.


"I believe we need to find leaders who are prepared to tell the truth ... about the failures of the performance of Republicans ... failed bureaucracies ... about how dangerous the world is," he said when asked what kind of Republican he would back for president.


Gingrich has been promoting a weekly political newsletter he calls "Winning the Future." It's available free to those who leave their e-mail addresses at


www.winningthefuture
.net, one of several Web sites he is connected with or operating. Gingrich began writing the newsletter in April 2006, and it now goes out to 311,000 readers each week, said Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler.

Political salon


At another Web site ? www.americansolutions
.com ? Gingrich is running a virtual political salon, with video clips, organizational information and contacts revolving around his conservative vision for the country's future. It asks supporters to join in an Internet "Solutions Day" on Sept. 27, the anniversary of Gingrich's so-called Contract With America, a slate of conservative policies he led through Congress as speaker of the House a decade and a half ago.


"What I'm trying to start is a new dialogue that is evidence-based," Gingrich said Thursday. "It doesn't start from the right wing, it doesn't start from the left wing," he said, but is an effort to get politicians and voters to "look honestly at the evidence of what isn't working and tell us how to change it."


Gingrich was interrupted with applause once, when he called for an end to the biting partisanship critics say has polarized national politics and paralyzed the workings of government.


"We have got to get past this partisan baloney, where I'm not allowed to say anything good about Hillary Clinton because 'I'm not a loyal Republican,' and she's not allowed to say anything good about me, or she's not a 'loyal' Democrat. What a stupid way to run a country."
He reserved his most pointed criticism for the administration's handling of the global campaign against terrorist groups.


"We've been engaged in a phony war," said Gingrich.



"The only people who have been taking this seriously are the combat military."


His remarks seemed to reflect, in part, the findings of a National Intelligence Estimate made public last month.
In the estimate, the U.S. intelligence community concluded that six years of U.S. efforts to degrade the al-Qaida terrorist group had left the organization constrained but still potent, having "protected or regenerated" the capability to attack the United States in ways that have left the country "in a heightened threat environment."


"We have to take this seriously," said Gingrich.


"We used to be a serious country. When we got attacked at Pearl Harbor, we took on Imperial Japan, Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany," he said, referring to World War II.
"We beat all three in less than four years. We're about to enter the seventh year of this phony war against ... [terrorist groups], and we're losing."

Successful approach

Gingrich said he would lay out in a Sept. 10 speech what a successful U.S. approach to this threat would have looked like over the past six years.
"First of all, we have to have a national energy strategy, which basically says to the Saudis, 'We're not going to rely on you,' " he said.


The United States imports about 14 million barrels of oil a day, making up two-thirds of its total consumption.
 

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Borrowed this from another site. It seemed appropriate. Seems like Newt is borrowing Ron Paul's 'lines'




Gingrich says war on terror 'phony'

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Ron Paul effect?

-----------------------------------------------------------

Washington ? Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Thursday the Bush administration is waging a "phony war" on terrorism, warning that the country is losing ground against the kind of Islamic radicals who attacked the country on Sept. 11, 2001.


A more effective approach, said Gingrich, would begin with a national energy strategy aimed at weaning the country from its reliance on imported oil and some of the regimes that petro-dollars support.


"None of you should believe we are winning this war. There is no evidence that we are winning this war," the ex-Georgian told a group of about 300 students attending a conference for collegiate conservatives.


Gingrich, who led the so-called Republican Revolution that won the GOP control of both houses of Congress in 1994 midterm elections, said more must be done to marshal national resources to combat Islamic militants at home and abroad and to prepare the country for future attack. He was unstinting in his criticism of his fellow Republicans, in the White House and on Capitol Hill.


"We were in charge for six years," he said, referring to the period between 2001 and early 2007, when the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress.



"I don't think you can look and say that was a great success."


Thursday's National Conservative Student Conference was sponsored by the Young America's Foundation, a Herndon, Va.-based group founded in the 1960s as a political counterpoint to the left-leaning activists who coalesced around the civil rights movement and opposition to the Vietnam War.


Gingrich retains strong support among conservatives and ranked fifth among possible Republican nominees behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, with the backing of 7 percent of those queried in a ABC News/Washington Post poll taken last week. The poll surveyed 403 Republicans and Republican-leaning adults nationwide and has a 5 percentage-point margin of error.


"I believe we need to find leaders who are prepared to tell the truth ... about the failures of the performance of Republicans ... failed bureaucracies ... about how dangerous the world is," he said when asked what kind of Republican he would back for president.


Gingrich has been promoting a weekly political newsletter he calls "Winning the Future." It's available free to those who leave their e-mail addresses at


www.winningthefuture
.net, one of several Web sites he is connected with or operating. Gingrich began writing the newsletter in April 2006, and it now goes out to 311,000 readers each week, said Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler.

Political salon


At another Web site ? www.americansolutions
.com ? Gingrich is running a virtual political salon, with video clips, organizational information and contacts revolving around his conservative vision for the country's future. It asks supporters to join in an Internet "Solutions Day" on Sept. 27, the anniversary of Gingrich's so-called Contract With America, a slate of conservative policies he led through Congress as speaker of the House a decade and a half ago.


"What I'm trying to start is a new dialogue that is evidence-based," Gingrich said Thursday. "It doesn't start from the right wing, it doesn't start from the left wing," he said, but is an effort to get politicians and voters to "look honestly at the evidence of what isn't working and tell us how to change it."


Gingrich was interrupted with applause once, when he called for an end to the biting partisanship critics say has polarized national politics and paralyzed the workings of government.


"We have got to get past this partisan baloney, where I'm not allowed to say anything good about Hillary Clinton because 'I'm not a loyal Republican,' and she's not allowed to say anything good about me, or she's not a 'loyal' Democrat. What a stupid way to run a country."
He reserved his most pointed criticism for the administration's handling of the global campaign against terrorist groups.


"We've been engaged in a phony war," said Gingrich.



"The only people who have been taking this seriously are the combat military."


His remarks seemed to reflect, in part, the findings of a National Intelligence Estimate made public last month.
In the estimate, the U.S. intelligence community concluded that six years of U.S. efforts to degrade the al-Qaida terrorist group had left the organization constrained but still potent, having "protected or regenerated" the capability to attack the United States in ways that have left the country "in a heightened threat environment."


"We have to take this seriously," said Gingrich.


"We used to be a serious country. When we got attacked at Pearl Harbor, we took on Imperial Japan, Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany," he said, referring to World War II.
"We beat all three in less than four years. We're about to enter the seventh year of this phony war against ... [terrorist groups], and we're losing."

Successful approach

Gingrich said he would lay out in a Sept. 10 speech what a successful U.S. approach to this threat would have looked like over the past six years.
"First of all, we have to have a national energy strategy, which basically says to the Saudis, 'We're not going to rely on you,' " he said.


The United States imports about 14 million barrels of oil a day, making up two-thirds of its total consumption.

Got to love this phony fuker. Wasn't he the one leading the Ken Starr parade? Talk about partison bullshit.
 

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Got to love this phony fuker. Wasn't he the one leading the Ken Starr parade? Talk about partison bullshit.

Yep. He as much as anyone, has contributed to the fractured partisan political culture we live in. But he's dead on re the war.
 

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ron paul! pees champagne and craps cottonballs.....based on these "polls".....

i can envision 10-15 ron paul! paranoids at their computers typing as fast as their little fingers can move, "vote ron paul!, vote ron paul!" ....so sad...

looks like the bulk of the ron paul! contingent is drawn from the old birchers, with a smattering of bitter lyndon larouche holdouts.....


the problem with paul!is that the guy is a complete fraud.....he's been in congress for 20+ years and has accomplished exactly NOTHING....

not only has he never passed even one piece of legislation reducing the size of government(see dtb`s earmark panel), he hasn't even been able to find so much as one ally to work with him...

in 20 years, his record is one of nothing but opposition......he has never offered a plan to implement any of what he purportedly believes.....

he`s a speechifier....that just votes "no"....

if you like his schtick, go find somebody that can work with the guy......he not a candidate who can work with others to build a coalition, develop a plan and actually accomplish something....

he`s is a pathetic excuse for a worthless politician.......he should have stuck to writing books, newspaper articles and giving talks to paid audiences......those people aren't expected to accomplish anything.....

they work at our colleges in academia...

we`ll see if he really has all this support come primary time...or he just has a small fanatical squad of "poll goobers"....

if he wins i`ll be back on bended knee....

if he gets drubbed,i`ll be unmerciful...
 
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Yep. He as much as anyone, has contributed to the fractured partisan political culture we live in. But he's dead on re the war.

Yes now he is. Im sure you can find many clips of him of Fox leading the charge.
 

The Judge

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if you like his schtick, go find somebody that can work with the guy......he not a candidate who can work with others to build a coalition, develop a plan and actually accomplish something....

he`s is a pathetic excuse for a worthless politician.......he should have stuck to writing books, newspaper articles and giving talks to paid audiences......those people aren't expected to accomplish anything.....
For a minute there I thought that you were talking about Bush but then I noticed that you said he should stick to writing books. I think we all know how unlikely that would be for Dubya.
 
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