Brad Lidge bye, bye

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The Astros finally got rid of Brad Lidge:00hour

I live in Houston and am stuck watching them every night in the spring and summer. :00x12
 

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interesting...trade

Astros send Lidge to Phillies for Bourn in 5-player trade
By RONALD BLUM, AP Baseball Writer
November 7, 2007

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- The Philadelphia Phillies became the first team to make a big move at the general managers' meetings, acquiring closer Brad Lidge from Houston along with infielder Eric Bruntlett on Wednesday night.

The Astros received speedy outfielder Michael Bourn, right-hander Geoff Geary and minor league third baseman Mike Costanzo. The 30-year-old Lidge was 5-3 with 19 saves in 27 chances for the Astros last year after converting 32 of 38 opportunities in 2006. He lost his closer's job to Dan Wheeler one week into the 2007 season but regained the role in mid-June.

"We're getting one of the premier closers in the game," Phillies assistant general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said. "The marketplace, as we all know, is a little scare out there as far as pitching. We felt this one of the best ways for us to really improve."

Lidge held batters to a .218 average and averaged 11.8 strikeouts per nine innings. He was sidelined from mid-June to mid-July because of a pulled oblique muscle in his left side and had surgery after the season to repair torn cartilage in his right knee.

"Obviously he got some struggles over the course of the year," new Astros general manager Ed Wade said.

Philadelphia intends to move Brett Myers, who had been the Phillies' closer, back into the starting rotation. Amaro called him his No. 2 starter behind Cole Hamels or possibly even a 1A.

"He was pretty excited about being on the mound when we clinched the division in the last game of the season and certainly did a fine job in that role," Amaro said. "He probably could thrive in that role certainly, but we felt like our best opportunity to improve our rotation was to get him back in there."

Wade has a deep knowledge of the Phillies, having been their general manager for eight years until he was fired after the 2005 season. Amaro also interviewed to become the Astros' GM. The pair started talking last week, and the deal fell into place about lunchtime Wednesday.

Bourn, a left-handed hitter, batted .277 as a rookie this year with one homer, six RBIs and 18 steals, seeing limited time as a defensive replacement in an outfield that included Pat Burrell, Aaron Rowand and Shane Victorino. Hunter Pence will move to right for Houston.

"We receive a speed center fielder, a top of the order bat, who we think has the ability to be a catalyst for our club for a long time and hopefully set the stage for Hunter Pence and (Lance) Berkman and Carlos Lee to drive him in," Wade said, remembering when Bourn won a race among prospects at the instructional league after the 2004 season. "He's an outstanding athlete."

Houston doesn't necessarily intend to move setup man Chad Qualls into the closer role. Qualls had five saves last season.

"Qualls has done a quality job for us over the last couple of season," Wade said. "The numbers that he's put up in the role that he's been in have been outstanding, but whether or not he ends up being the answer on the back end remains to be seen."

Bruntlett hit .246 with 14 RBIs last season, seeing time at shortstop, third base and the outfield.

Geary was 3-2 with a 4.41 ERA with the Phillies. Costano, 24, batted .270 with 27 homers and 86 RBIs at Double-A Reading.

"Geary gives us a middle relief arm, a sinker-slider guy," Wade said.
 

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The Astros finally got rid of Brad Lidge:00hour

I live in Houston and am stuck watching them every night in the spring and summer. :00x12
Exactly.

I suffered almost daily though Lidge's complete and utter meltdown. The fact that the Astros finally gave up on him will be another crushing blow to this guy and Philly is not exactly the kind of place that is going to help his confidence.
 

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There is no place worse that Lidge could have been dealt too.
TOUGH FANS,SHORT FENCE.

Good luck Brad "Light'em Up" Lidge.

Hope this deal has better results than the Wagner deal though. 3 bust in return for him.
 

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There is no place worse that Lidge could have been dealt too.
TOUGH FANS,SHORT FENCE.

Good luck Brad "Light'em Up" Lidge.

Hope this deal has better results than the Wagner deal though. 3 bust in return for him.


No kidding about the Wagner deal, they stole him from the Astros. Bourne is the real deal and is from Houston. The third baseman they traded for is a good prospect also

I hope they are at least competitive this year.
 

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Bourn is awesome, I get every Phillies game as I am local and he is IMO their 2nd best OF behind Rowand. A true 5 tool player.
 

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lol you're in fantasy land if you think bourne is a five tool player. He's a quick guy that's about it. There's a good chance he never even becomes a decent big leaguer. He wouldn't even start this year for the phils. I think its a great deal for the phils. they re signed romero today and now with lidge as the closer & myers back in the rotation they should have a solid team.
 

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I think Bourn has upside(astros minor league system is garbage and need some youth) and Lidge was just costing money for a team that is not playoff ready next year unless they land a big name pitcher somehow(which is doubtful).
Seems like the right move for both teams right now.
 

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I think Bourn has upside(astros minor league system is garbage and need some youth) and Lidge was just costing money for a team that is not playoff ready next year unless they land a big name pitcher somehow(which is doubtful).
Seems like the right move for both teams right now.

agreed, sir
 
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