Cabrera and Willis to tigers for Miller and Maybin

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The first blockbuster.

6:20 p.m., from Peter Gammons
• The Tigers have won the Miguel Cabrera sweepstakes. Detroit will get Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis from Florida for six players -- Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller, catcher Mike Rabelo and three minor league prospects.
 

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Tigers set to acquire Cabrera, Willis
12/04/2007 6:01 PM ET
By Joe Frisaro / MLB.com

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The Marlins and Tigers are on the verge of completing a blockbuster deal that will send Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to Detroit for a package of six players.

A source familiar with the negotiations has told MLB.com that the Tigers are parting with outfielder Cameron Maybin and lefty starter Andrew Miller and four prospects for the final two players from the Marlins' 2003 World Series championship squad.

The deal was all but finalized as of late afternoon at the Winter Meetings.

The Tigers swooped into the sweepstakes for Cabrera and Willis on Tuesday and put together a package of players that the Marlins felt too tempting to pass up.

Cabrera and Willis were both rookies on the Marlins '03 title team. Both are eligible for arbitration through the 2009 seasons. Cost has become a concern for Florida, making the two All-Stars expendable.

Cabrera is a four-time All-Star who comes off a season where he batted .320 with 34 home runs and 119 RBIs. The 24-year-old made $7.4 million this past season and he is in line to earn more than $10 million in 2008.

Willis is coming off a 10-15 season with a 5.17 ERA. While the D-Train, who made $6.45 million in 2007, is coming off his worst season, he compiled 205 1/3 innings, marking his third straight 200-plus season.

This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
 

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eveybody has been watching what the yanks & boston are going to do...& the tigers pull off this great trade....excellent move !!
 
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This could force Minnesota's hand to move Santana. One line of thinking was that they wouldn't move him, and hope to ride the Santana-Liriano 1-2 punch a la the second half of 2006. This trade certainly bolsters the overall strength of the Central.

Also wonder how this will affect the Angels. I've read that Beane was more apt to unload some or all of his pitchers (Haren, Harden and Blanton) if Anaheim acquired Cabrera b/c he would make them such a formidable opponent.
 

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other than occasionally watching the yanks, i don't follow baseball.....with this trade are the tigers better than boston ?
 
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Tough to say, although this certainly levels the field a bit. Keys for Detroit will be getting contibutions from its secondary hitters other than guys like Miggy, Mags and Pudge. D-Train could be lethal in the first half b/c American hitters aren't used to his odd delivery (I made a killing in 2003-2004 backing Willis anytime he was up against another team for the first time). But with Verlander, Bonderman and The Gambler, they certainly have a hell of a top rotation. And that's not factoring in Willis at all. Weakness will be bullpen, at least at this point.
 

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Megadeal doesn't address Tigers' biggest need
By Sean Deveney - SportingNews


NASHVILLE, Tenn. --- Last month, at the general managers' meetings in Florida, Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski was asked how much he thought his team needed in order to get back on par with the Indians, who had surged past Detroit to win the AL Central by a whopping eight games. He thought about it for a moment, then said, "I'll take as much as I can get."

Indeed, with the Indians setting a high standard, Detroit has been forced to respond. It began with a proactive, late-October deal that netted shortstop Edgar Renteria from the Braves. The deal allowed Carlos Guillen to move to first base and thus boost the infield defense. Now, as baseball's winter meetings grind through their second day, the Tigers are again a team of interest. They reportedly have reached a deal with the Florida Marlins that would net them stars Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis.

That there's movement on a front other than that of Johan Santana is a welcome change here at the Gaylord Opryland hotel. What also is significant is that the Tigers are being aggressive in trying to catch the Indians, setting up an offseason divisional rivalry just below Yankees-Red Sox in prestige and importance. It very well could all come to nothing, but at least someone other than Santana is being discussed here.

Detroit wants to hit back at the Indians. But the Willis/Cabrera scenario doesn't seem to make sense. The Tigers have Renteria and added Jacque Jones in a trade with the Cubs, so offense isn't really the need. They were the third-highest scoring team in baseball and though they can't expect the kind of career years they got out of Magglio Ordonez and Placido Polanco, they'll have no trouble putting up runs.


The rotation had some struggles last year, with elbow problems hampering Jeremy Bonderman and Kenny Rogers (who also had surgery on a blood clot). But the first four starters are set: Justin Verlander, Bonderman, Rogers and Nate Robertson--with Andrew Miller and Chad Durbin among the pitchers vying for the fifth spot. The big problem, of course, is the bullpen, where Joel Zumaya is out for the year and Detroit will hope that Fernando Rodney can bounce back and be an effective setup man for closer Todd Jones.

That's what makes the Willis-Cabrera deal of particular interest. They don't need either guy, and the trade isn't necessarily rational. But, sometimes, finishing in second place makes a team do irrational things.

As for the Indians, manager Eric Wedge says he is aware of the Tigers' movements. "Obviously, you have to pay attention to it," he said before the deal went down. "But I focus on us. I think we are a good baseball team and if we focus on that, we can beat anybody."

That has been reflected in the way Cleveland has approached the offseason. They're not doing much. They signed Masahide Kobayashi, one of just three relievers with 200 saves in Japan League history, but Wedge emphasized that Kobayashi is a setup man for incumbent closer Joe Borowski. They're counting on their two aces, C.C. Sabathia and Fausto Carmona, and expecting continued improvement from young guys like Grady Sizemore, Ryan Garko, Jhonny Peralta and Asdrubal Cabrera. "That's going to be the big thing for us, is just the players we have," Wedge says. "We're focused on getting those guys to improve."

They probably will, and you can be sure, the Tigers know it.
 

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Tough to say, although this certainly levels the field a bit. Keys for Detroit will be getting contibutions from its secondary hitters other than guys like Miggy, Mags and Pudge. D-Train could be lethal in the first half b/c American hitters aren't used to his odd delivery (I made a killing in 2003-2004 backing Willis anytime he was up against another team for the first time). But with Verlander, Bonderman and The Gambler, they certainly have a hell of a top rotation. And that's not factoring in Willis at all. Weakness will be bullpen, at least at this point.

thanks bj...btw who is their gm ?
 

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Tigers lineup is one of best in all of baseball if not the best.

Granderson
Renteria
Ordonez
MCab
Pudge
Sheffield
Polanco
Guillen
???

Also found the three prospects included in deal,

Burke Badenhop, Eulogio de la Cruz, and Dallas Trahern.
 

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Tigers lineup is one of best in all of baseball if not the best.

Granderson
Renteria
Ordonez
MCab
Pudge
Sheffield
Polanco
Guillen
???

Also found the three prospects included in deal,

Burke Badenhop, Eulogio de la Cruz, and Dallas Trahern.

Damn... I completely forgot about Sheffield! Yeah, that's a whole lotta runs right there.
 

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I always said being a Braves fan that I loved our mix of hitters throughout the lineup and would take it over anyones in baseball. However, this new Marlins lineup is sick. EASILY the bet hitting lineup in baseball.

Don't let them fool you though...Andrew Miller is gonna be a helluva pitcher.
 

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Interesting.... from the ESPN winter meetings blog about a half hour ago:

12:58 p.m., from Amy Nelson
? Since news broke of the Marlins-Tigers blockbuster, Detroit left-hander Andrew Miller has not heard a word from anyone in the Tigers' organization. One of Miller's agents ran into Jim Leyland in the hotel lobby Tuesday night, and Leyland told him the deal wasn't anywhere close to getting done. What is unclear is whether any of the eight players involved have to physically be examined, which is why the trade could be held up. So far, Miller and his agents have not been told anything. Word is that the deal might not be completed until after the winter meetings -- unless there are other factors preventing it from getting done.

Miller, in fact, is working out at the Tigers' spring training complex in Lakeland, Fla. He met with the trainers this morning, had his sore left knee worked on, and is now out playing golf with some of his teammates. Late in the season, Miller had an MRI on his left knee, where it turned out there was some mild cartilage damage. He's been rehabbing it ever since. Since he's officially still a Tiger, he wasn't denied treatment.
 

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Of course Leyland is going to say all the right things. Of course he's still a Tiger and training with the team because nothing is offical. It's how all trades work...

The players will obviously have to pass physicals, that's how the business works.
 
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