BYU -4.5 & Kansas +3.5

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Parlay'em, Tease'em, Turn'em, do whatever you want to do to'em!!!!:yup :00hour

After the prices came out earlier today, these 2 really surprised me. No doubt the line on BYU will go higher as the game approaches. I thought it would be at least -7 or higher. They will handle the Bruins by DD's. Have yet to see the Money-Line on the Jayhawks but I'll play it also. I think the match-up favors Kansas. Anyway, I like these 2 after my first glance at the odds on the 2007 NCAA Bowl Season Games. I hope we all have a "Happy Bowling Season"!!!!:D
 

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im just curious, what about vt dont you like matching up against ku? the way i see it, ku is at the disadvantage, experience, talent, and strengths( ku strength is its offense, i think vt's d is better than ku's offense)
 

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im just curious, what about vt dont you like matching up against ku? the way i see it, ku is at the disadvantage, experience, talent, and strengths( ku strength is its offense, i think vt's d is better than ku's offense)

PPG
Kansas 44.3/16.0
V-Tech 29.3/15.5

Total Offense
Kansas 491.1
V-Tech 332.4

Total Defense
Kansas 318.5
V-Tech 293.3

Penilties
Kansas 48-438
V-Tech 85-737

Looking at these stats I'm not so sure about Tech's defense being better than the Jayhawk's offense.:shrug:My take:

Kansas "O" vs. Tech's "D"
Jayhawk's 2nd in the country in scoring and they are very balanced(252 passing;164 rushing). Tech has a very good defense but they did give up over 200 yards per game against the pass(207.3). I think Kansas will have success throwing the ball.

Kansas "D" vs. Tech's "O"
Not much difference in the total yards these defenses give up per game this year. No doubt that Tech is better running the ball than throwing but the Jayhawks only gave up 91.4 rushing yards per game. If Kansas can stop the run, I think Tech will have a hard time trying to move the ball through the air.

Special Teams
Are you kidding---Edge Virginia Tech

Bowl games, after the long layoffs, tend to be high scoring affairs which definately favors Kansas. Found the number of penilties the teams had this year interesting. Rule of thumb is that the less penilized team has better coaching. Not the case here as I think Beamer is the better coach. Maybe Kansas is more comfortable running it's offense and they play well as a unit. I just believe this game will be a shoot-out. That said, one would have to like the Jayhawks chances. My guess:

Kansas 39
V-Tech 27
 
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This makes me wonder if you've actually seen Virginia Tech play this season. 39 points? Against THAT defense?

Kansas has played one decent team this season...and they lost.

Virginia Tech wins going away.
 

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This makes me wonder if you've actually seen Virginia Tech play this season. 39 points? Against THAT defense?

Kansas has played one decent team this season...and they lost.

Virginia Tech wins going away.

You can stop wondering my friend because I have seen the Hokies play this season. I also have a strict rule not to get into a battle of wits with a man who is unarmed. Good Luck Pal.
 

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I think Kansas has a a good shot at winning. They'll be well prepared and Va Tech's offense is nothing special most of the time (the game against Ga Tech, Glennon was All American). The best way to beat Kansas is spread them out and throw the ball which Va Tech doesn't do particularly well.

Also, if you remember early in the season, Va Tech's offense was horrid... I'm hoping the long layoff will make their offense rusty again.
 
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Thats the way I see it also Destructor D. If Kansas stops the run, which they did very well this season, Tech will have a very hard time moving the football. Have a feeling the Jayhawks will have a few new formations & trick plays that the Hokies will not be prepared for as well.:yup
 

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My thoughts on the game:

I have seen every snap of KU this year (most in person) and 4 or 5 VT games on television.

I dont see KU scoring many points. The speed on both sides of the ball HEAVILY HEAVILY favors VT.

The only team that we played this year that was even close to as athletic as VT was Mizzou. And VT is a lot faster than Mizzou--- ya'all saw how that went.

I sincerely hope I am wrong, but I was 12-0 picking KU's games this year... I think it will be a very low scoring game, one that VT controls because of their speed. Reesing is going to struggle with VT's corners, too. Our receivers arent very good, contrary to popular belief.

On the radio this week I said VT 24-14.

The layoff also helps VT a lot more than it does us. Hall and Ore and others can get healthy. We dont really have any key injuries that needed tending to.

Our gimmicky offense (no huddle, fast paced, spread) will also be given time to be dissected by Beamer & company. We snuck up on everyone in the B12 because they hadnt seen it before (especially from us... our O-coordinator before, Quartaro, was terrible). VT should have their substitutions down, a key against that offense, and be able to spot trends.

Again, I hope I am wrong. Regardless, there is just about no way we score anywhere near 40 points.
 

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P.S. You are right about the run. We should continue to be stout against that.

But VT, if they watch enough film, should be able to spot a few things: we are suseptable to the pass almost everywhere. We can get beat deep often, and that is why their speed at WR slcares me.

Also, we do very good defending physical run teams (like TAMU, K-State, and teams that like to pound it up the gut, etc). What we have problems with are teams that spread us out and can create either a.) seems up the middle or, b.) get speed on the perimeter.

Our linebackers are very physical. They arent fast, at all. And Rivera is always going for the knockout blow and will miss at least 2 easy tackles in this game. If VT is smart, they are going to play 3-4 WR's the whole game... and use Glennon to stretch the field and then bring in Taylor to move the pocket.

If they try to pound it inside with Ore & company, that is when they are going to stall.
 

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Notice that BYU is up to -7 in most places while Va. Tech is down to -3. Also, most all of the early money is on Va. Tech. Glad I got my plays down early:

2-Team Parlay: BYU -4.5/ Kansas +3.5 & Kansas +160ML
 

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My thoughts on the game:

I have seen every snap of KU this year (most in person) and 4 or 5 VT games on television.

I dont see KU scoring many points. The speed on both sides of the ball HEAVILY HEAVILY favors VT.

The only team that we played this year that was even close to as athletic as VT was Mizzou. And VT is a lot faster than Mizzou--- ya'all saw how that went.

I sincerely hope I am wrong, but I was 12-0 picking KU's games this year... I think it will be a very low scoring game, one that VT controls because of their speed. Reesing is going to struggle with VT's corners, too. Our receivers arent very good, contrary to popular belief.

On the radio this week I said VT 24-14.

The layoff also helps VT a lot more than it does us. Hall and Ore and others can get healthy. We dont really have any key injuries that needed tending to.

Our gimmicky offense (no huddle, fast paced, spread) will also be given time to be dissected by Beamer & company. We snuck up on everyone in the B12 because they hadnt seen it before (especially from us... our O-coordinator before, Quartaro, was terrible). VT should have their substitutions down, a key against that offense, and be able to spot trends.

Again, I hope I am wrong. Regardless, there is just about no way we score anywhere near 40 points.

Always appreciate your input Jayhawk, merry christmas to you and your family.

I tend to agree with you, and though there are some valid points in favor of jayhawks coming away with a victory I just dont think the numbers tell the true story here.

VT offense was handicapped much of the year because of Glennon/Taylor either being injured or not on the same page as a unit. The last few games though, VT offense has been very effective especially the qb duo. VT defense is understated as well. they were without Hall for a good portion of the year, who is now back and recovering and should be good to play. Hall has been a key defender for the past 3 years for the hokies.

Unfortunately, I am not as familiar with KU's team, but I saw many games of theirs last years and I saw a couple this year. They were good, but nothing great. And I cannot say much for or against them outside of they really havnt played that many solid teams this year. I will give them the CU and TAMU as legit competition. But they are perfect for stopping tamu's smash mouth style attack.

So all in all, I would agree that if it is a shootout, KU will probably win. I just dont think it is going to be a shootout, VT D is used to seeing big games and good offenses. KU is not used to seeing the kind of speed that comes with playing against vt, especially on D and at wideout and at qb with tyrod in there for that matter.
 
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