Nokian Vativa's are what I run on both of my 4 wheel drive trucks.......they don't make em any better than these Finland produced beauties.........in the snow.......in the rain.......on the dry pavement......anywhere.......I don't take em off the road though.......but they would be my first choice there too........I guess you could say that I swear by Nokian tires.......who drives in more snow and mucky weather than the Finnish people ?........or how about off the road back in those Finnish mountains ?.........try a set of Vativas you wont be sorry