this is why i will never vote for huckabee

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i don't care if politicians say they believe in god...i don't even care if they bring their religion into their campaigns, so long as it's not a main theme....but i do care when they say they are part of god's army..& this article reminded me that i could never vote for this guy...no matter what...

Huckabee Steps Back Into the Pulpit at Evangelical Church in N.H.

By Perry Bacon Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, January 7, 2008; A07


WINDHAM, N.H., Jan. 6 -- A pastor from Texas was scheduled to deliver the sermon Sunday at a church here called the Crossing.

But instead this small evangelical congregation heard from a different special guest: Baptist minister and 2008 presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, who delivered a sermon of more than 20 minutes on how to be part of "God's Army" in the middle school cafeteria where the congregation meets.

"When we become believers, it's as if we have signed up to be part of God's Army, to be soldiers for Christ," Huckabee told the enthusiastic audience.

Days after winning the Iowa Republican caucus, where Christian conservatives powered him to victory, Huckabee now finds himself in a state without an extensive religious base. While more than 60 percent of GOP voters were estimated to be evangelicals in the Iowa caucuses, they accounted for only about one in five New Hampshire Republican voters in 2000, the last time the state held a competitive GOP primary.

Huckabee's campaign did not allow cameras into the church, and the candidate did not make an appeal for votes as part of his sermon. But a church official invited members to attend an event a mile away, where Huckabee held a rally with actor Chuck Norris and where free clam chowder was served.

Huckabee mixed homespun jokes into his sermon and added a more religious tone than in his political speeches, not just quoting from the Bible but citing specific verses and talking about the serious side of faith.

"When you give yourself to Christ, some relationships have to go," he said. "It's no longer your life; you've signed it over."

Likening service to God to service in the military, Huckabee said "there is suffering in the conditioning for battle" and "you obey the orders."

In his campaign stops in New Hampshire, Huckabee has generally focused on appealing to nonreligious voters, playing the bass guitar and emphasizing his support of small government, local control of schools and gun rights -- popular causes among Granite State Republicans. Norris, who has endorsed him, has been at his side at nearly every event. His campaign has not run an ad, popular in Iowa, that dubbed him a "Christian leader."

The former Arkansas governor said he was comfortable at the Crossing because it is similar to the Church at Rock Creek in Little Rock, which he attends regularly. The former head of the Arkansas Baptist State Convention prefers "contemporary" services, an aide said, and often attends services that are not explicitly Baptist.

At the Crossing, like at Huckabee's Arkansas church, a band with guitar players leads the singing, and the words of the songs appeared on a projector rather than in hymnals. In contrast, however, this relatively new congregation does not own a building -- there is a large sanctuary at his Arkansas church -- so more than 200 people sat in folding chairs in the large cafeteria, with the lunch tables used during the school week stacked against the wall.

Huckabee, sitting in the front row beside his wife, Janet, seemed to know most of the songs without reading the words and praised the guitar player as being better than he is. And he said he enjoyed the upbeat service, which included tambourine and drums and children running under flags that were waved during the songs.

"If we know the Lord, there ought to be joy," Huckabee said.
 
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To believe in God or in a guiding force because someone tells you to is the height of stupidity. We are given senses to receive our information within. With our own eyes we see, and with our own skin we feel. With our intelligence, it is intended that we understand. But each person must puzzle it out for himself or herself.

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If huckabee is a soldier for God does he get his"marching orders" from the same god that GWB talks to ?
I am confused
 

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thank God AR. I agree. But after Hucklebee and Romney, you got Rudy. McCain is unelectable.

Give me Buchannon, Powell and Clarke in the cabinet, O'Bama and Biden on the ticket, Edwards and McCain get co-control of the State Department and go ahead and push Condi into the MLB commissioner spot.

And bring back 'Stormin Norman'. Find out what that guy is up to and get him back in the mix.
 
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I knew it!

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Tiocfaidh ?r l?
 

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I could have sworn he was black Irish.

Tiocfaidh ?r l? is an Irish language phrase (IPA: [ˈtʲʊki aːɾˠ ˈɫ̪aː]) which translates as 'Our day will come'. This refers to a day that Ireland is unified again and free from British involvement in the country. It has become the unofficial slogan of the Irish Republican movement, especially embraced by the Provisional Irish Republican Army. Chucky, an English-language pronunciation spelling of tiocfaidh, is used as slang for an Irish Republican (sometimes shortened to Chuck).

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

I still think he can lead the fight to fight the power. Fight the power that be, you know, just do the right thing.
 

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I could have sworn he was black Irish.

Tiocfaidh ?r l? is an Irish language phrase (IPA: [?t??ki a??? ???a?]) which translates as 'Our day will come'. This refers to a day that Ireland is unified again and free from British involvement in the country. It has become the unofficial slogan of the Irish Republican movement, especially embraced by the Provisional Irish Republican Army. Chucky, an English-language pronunciation spelling of tiocfaidh, is used as slang for an Irish Republican (sometimes shortened to Chuck).

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

I still think he can lead the fight to fight the power. Fight the power that be, you know, just do the right thing.

I think we should print up a bunch of "O'Bama" shirts for St. Pats Day. Maybe it will offset the Osama garbage.;)

Neart - C?ir - On?ir

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O'Bama 2008
 
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I think the black Irish thing has some legs. How the fvck could an Irishman be into Allah? It just doesn't make sense.

"I hear he's half muslim."

"Nah, he's black Irish."

ps, lose the Wayne Winks, Saul. DTB has taken over that one.
 
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thank God AR. I agree. But after Hucklebee and Romney, you got Rudy. McCain is unelectable.

i may be wrong but i haven't seen romney place religion out front like huckabee...

jw...if you have seen this would you be able to point me in that direction ?
 

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the only things that i know about webb is that he is a vet & beat george allen....but i don't know how he's performing as a senator...

He's a pro-gun moderate democrat. Served as Secretary of the Navy under Reagan. Served as a platoon commander in the Marines in Vietnam. That's the extent of my knowledge of him, though.
 

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AR, I don't think Romney has ever really put his religion out in front at any time during his career, so to hold his "Mormonism" against him isn't really fair or relevant. I could live with him, and I trust him more than Rudy. I really don't think that McCain is electable, so I guess I would have to say that I hope Romney can pull it off. Best option on the "other side" I suppose.

I am still confident that the R.Paul/D.Kucinich 3rd party dream ticket is going to come together.
 
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