older stats from hospital in Dallas: illegal immigrant births

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what's the solution here? Which presidential candidate is speaking to this issue, what are there suggestions, and what is to be done (I really don't know)? Just think if 1% of these babies has some sort of birth defect or life threatening illness. I think these costs are just for the birth and short hospital stay. My cousin works at Kosair's neonatal ICU, and that is some expensive, high-tech care!!
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Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, Texas is a fairly famous institution and for a variety of reasons:

1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963
2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly after
3. Jack Ruby-who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, died there a few years later..by coincidence

On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second busiest maternity ward in the country with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year. (That's almost 44 per day---every day)

A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal immigrants. That's11,200anchor babiesborn every year just in Dallas

According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering 15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5 million.

The average patient in Parkland is maternity wards is 25 years old, married and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal immigrant.By law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their immigration status or ability to pay.

OK, fine. That doesn't mean they should receive better care than everyday, middle-class American citizens. But at Parkland Hospital , they do. " Parkland Memorial Hospital has nine prenatal clinics. NINE.

The Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman who was a patient at one of the clinics and pregnant with her third child---her previous two were also born at Parkland . Her first two deliveries were free and the Mexican native was grateful because it would have cost $200 to have them in Mexico. This time, the hospital wants her to pay $10 per visit and $100 for the delivery but she was unsure if she could come up with the money. Not that it matters, the hospital won't turn her away. (I wonder why they even bother asking at this point.)

"How long has this been going on? What are the long-term effects?

Well, another subject of the article was born at Parkland in 1986 shortly after her mother entered the US illegally - now she is having her own child there as well. (That's right, she's technically a US citizen.)

These women receive free prenatal care including medication, nutrition, birthing classes and child care classes. They also get freebies such as car seats, bottles, diapers and formula.

Most of these things are available to American citizens as well but only for low-income applicants and even then, the red tape involved is almost insurmountable.

Because these women are illegal immigrants, they do not have to provide any sort of legitimate identification - no proof of income. An American citizen would have to provide a social security number which would reveal their annual income - an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and the hospital must take them at their word.


Parkland Hospital offers indigent care to Dallas County residents who earn less than $40,000 per year. (They also have to prove that they did not refuse health coverage at their current job. Yeah, the 'free' care is not so easy for Americans.)

There are about 140 patients who received roughly $4 million dollars for un-reimbursed medical care. As it turns out, they did not qualify for free treatment because they resided outside of Dallas County so the hospital is going to sue them!Illegals get it all free!But U. S citizens who live outside of Dallas County get sued! How stupid is this?

As if that isn't annoying enough, the illegal immigrant patients are actually complaining about hospital staff not speaking Spanish . In this AP story, the author speaks with a woman who is upset that she had to translate comments from the hospital staff into Spanish for her husband. The doctor was trying to explain the situation to the family and the mother was forced to translate for her husband who only spoke Spanish. This was apparently a great injustice to her.

In an attempt to create a Spanish-speaking staff, Parkland Hospital is now providing incentives in the form of extra pay for applicants who speak Spanish. Additionally, medical students at the University of Texas Southwestern for which Parkland Hospital is the training facility will now have a Spanish language requirement added to their already jammed-packed curriculum. No other school in the country boasts such a ridiculous multi-semester (multicultural) requirement.

If you want to verify accuracy:





http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp
 

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it's also happening here...

the people (including the politicans) who want an open border policy don't realize the financial strain the illegals are putting on the health care system in the southwest....& the galling thing is that when people bring this up as one of the reasons why we should have tighter security..they are labeled a racist....
 
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Sounds like a compelling issue.

Too bad we dont just enforce the current laws we have on the books regarding our border. If we just did that and ensured the resources to do that, we would go a long way in stemming the constant flow.

What to do with the illegals already here is almost a separate issue, and one thats hard to tackle without first addressing the ongoing flow into our country.

The Border Wall I think turns many people off, I know it did for me, as it sounds and feels very anti-american from a philosphical standpoint. We dont need a wall in order to keep the borders closed.

But, over the years the whole concept of the wall has begun to shift in my mind. LikeI said, I have a liberal mind, thus am open to evolving throughts and ideas. I've changed my mind on this because A.) it would make a lot of people happy and feel better about the situation. B.) The problen has done nothing but get extremely worse, and combined with terrorism issues, obvioulsy calls for different, somewhat drastic solutions. And, C.) our economy is not that good, and we need to put people to work. history has shown how internal improvements help spur the economy, keep people employed and so forth. This would be such a project.

Of course, not to repeat myself, but if we insist on not enforcing the current laws--and this goes to going after businesses who employ illegals by the boat load (or should it be truck load or raft load)--it wont really matter if we have a wall or not.

As far as requiring people to take a course in Spanish. Big deal. This will get me killed on this forum, but that does not bug me. Its not a very hard language to learn and a couple of quick sessions as part of training would probably do the trick. If you're going to work in an area with a lot of hispanics and communicating is important, why wouldn't you want your employees to, at least, take a crash course in the basics. A little could go a long way.

Commence piling on me for that one....I am sure there are plenty of people here who want English-only laws adopted and such......of course, if you want to demand that people only speak the native tongue of this land, my question is how are you planning to teach everyone how to speak Iriquos....or Cherokee.....or Sioux. :SIB
 

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Ay! Carumba!

Es muy malo. Lo siento, senors and senoras. Hay muchos ninos y muchas ninas en el Estado Unidos.
 

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Clint--also primary factor in increased medical expenses and insurance. Actuary term- is cost shifting. Medical faculties have bottom line they need to take in to be solvent. In its simplest form.

A: uncollectable accounts
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B: Paying patients
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equal solvency/profit
Only solution-the more A's the higher- the charges for the B's to offset--eg cost shifting
 
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