Then maybe you should think before you always start with me. It was your low down nasty distortion of a quote of mine which you put up in my name, that started it. When i was banned ya hit me about 4 times:shrug: . I usually don't insult anyone until they zing me about four or five times and then i lash back. The strange thing is that the four insults against me are never seen but my one lash back sure as heck is.:shrug: The real kicker is i support the same people who are fighting to keep a site like this alive and the guys i lash back at are doing everything in their power to destroy these type of sites (gambling) and they don't even realize it because they are either to selfish or maybe just to ignorant of the issues. I might get banned from this site again but aint nobody gonna gag me for what i believe and feel. Keep hope alive.
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Then maybe you should think before you always start with me. It was your low down nasty distortion of a quote of mine which you put up in my name, that started it. When i was banned ya hit me about 4 times:shrug: . I usually don't insult anyone until they zing me about four or five times and then i lash back. The strange thing is that the four insults against me are never seen but my one lash back sure as heck is.:shrug: The real kicker is i support the same people who are fighting to keep a site like this alive and the guys i lash back at are doing everything in their power to destroy these type of sites (gambling) and they don't even realize it because they are either to selfish or maybe just to ignorant of the issues. I might get banned from this site again but aint nobody gonna gag me for what i believe and feel. Keep hope alive.
yeah, you're a real freedom fighter! :mj07: you're just another internet pu$$y who won't even post his first name or where he lives. You started with me long, long ago with your comments about the South and other blanket statements that show your true stupidity. I can take anything you throw at me, tough guy.
There's lots of guys here who I disagree with on issues. You are the only one though who can't discuss things civilly and resort to blanket bs statements that are wholly unfounded and untrue. I didn't even know you were ever banned. :shrug:
I'm willing to discuss, argue, hash out, etc. with anybody, but when somebody like you can't do that in a civil manner, then we're going to have problems.
as for the quote, it was nothing that you haven't said dozens of times, and I know it's how you feel.
I'm willing to discuss things in a civil manner. If you are too, then I'll give you a chance. However, when everything you post is negative towards my area of the country and your ongoing diatribe about me being gullible and doing the bidding of Karl Rove (whoever that is), then I'm going to give it back in spades.
Up to you.
I hate to say this but isn't this true?
Most of us.. I would say 80 % of us if not higher have had unprotected sex at one time or another especially in our teens.. Praying that our partner doesn't get pregneant.
Come to think of it a couple of my buddies who knocked their girlfriends up had morals and values. They were in the same sex education classes I was in.
The fact is that we or most people are educated in safe sex, but we as guys let the "little head" do the thinking, especially if booze is involved. We think it won't happen to us this one time. :mj07:
So we are not bad or uneducated people.. Just horny.
Most of us.. I would say 80 % of us if not higher have had unprotected sex at one time or another especially in our teens.. Praying that our partner doesn't get pregneant.
Come to think of it a couple of my buddies who knocked their girlfriends up had morals and values. They were in the same sex education classes I was in.
The fact is that we or most people are educated in safe sex, but we as guys let the "little head" do the thinking, especially if booze is involved. We think it won't happen to us this one time. :mj07:
So we are not bad or uneducated people.. Just horny.
Right on the money dude... when guys do this.. they are just being horny and regular dudes.
It's the girls that let this happen. they're the evil whores.
Pastors Accuse Planned Parenthood for 'Genocide' on Blacks
Thursday , April 24, 2008
By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
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WASHINGTON ?
The Planned Parenthood Federation of America has perpetuated a ?genocide on the black community,? says a group of African-American pastors who claimed Thursday the birth control and abortion provider has had a racist agenda since its beginnings in 1921.
Holding a brief vigil and press conference in front of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Washington, D.C., the group of pastors and activists said they were incensed by the results of recent ?undercover? inquiries into several Planned Parenthood clinics across the country.
?Every day ? over 1,500 black babies are murdered inside the black woman?s womb,? said Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, of Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny (BOND). ?This is a race issue.?
The pastors urged Congress to initiate an audit of the organization and have written letters demanding that money for Planned Parenthood be eliminated from federal Title X funding, of which the group got $65 million for fiscal year 2007, according to pro-life Concerned Women of America. In total, Planned Parenthood received $300 million in government contracts and grants in the current fiscal year.
The national office of Planned Parenthood provided FOX News with a lengthy statement on Thursday in which it said its role in the African-American community is widespread because the need is greater.
?The (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) revealed that a shocking number of teenage African-American girls ? nearly half ? carry a sexually transmitted infection," reads the statement. "This compares to an overall average rate for all teenage girls of at least one in four.
?The largest increases in the teen birthrate were reported for non-Hispanic black teens, whose overall rate rose five percent in 2006. In addition, African-American women are more likely to die of breast cancer than the general population,? it said.But an investigation, undertaken by students at the University of California at Los Angeles newspaper, The Advocate, revealed troubling responses from Planned Parenthood staffers when asked by an actor, posing as a ?donor,? if he could earmark his contribution for abortions for ?black babies? only.
In one example, Autumn Kersey, vice president for marketing at Planned Parenthood of Idaho, is asked whether a donation can be specified ?to help a minority group ? like the black community, for example.?
?Certainly,? Kersey says in a taped response in which she sounds genuinely encouraged by the offer. ?If you wanted to designate that your gift be used to help an African-American woman in need, then we would certainly make sure the gift as earmarked for that purpose.?
The caller responds: ?Great, because I really faced trouble with affirmative action, and I don?t want my kids to be disadvantaged against black kids. I just had a baby; I want to put it in his name.?
Kersey responds, ?Absolutely.?
The "donor" proceeds to proclaim that ?the less black kids out there the better,? followed by, ?understandable, understandable,? by Kersey, who laughed as if he were joking.
?Excuse my hesitation, this is the first time that I?ve had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I?m excited and want to make sure I don?t leave anything out,? she is recorded saying.
Kersey's and other statements were culled from calls to Planned Parenthood clinics in six states. In each, the staff person answering the call expressed an interest in taking the donations despite the caller?s overtly racist commentary.
That is part of a troubling trend, say critics, who accuse Planned Parenthood of targeting minority neighborhoods. They blame the institution for a disproportionate rate of abortions among black women.
?I think the media, and I think America, and certainly black folks, need to start thinking about race and Planned Parenthood, said Rev. Clenard Childress, who raised the question, not for the first time, about Planned Parenthood?s founder, Margaret Sanger, who died over 40 years ago at the age of 86.
Sanger, a pioneering advocate for universal access to birth control for women, was also a proponent of ?eugenics,? a philosophy that advocates social intervention, like birth control and abortion, for "improving" the hereditary traits of the human race. According to biographies written about Sanger, who was the sixth child of 11 eleven born to a rigid Catholic family in upstate New York, her support for this practice was focused on the ?unfit? and the poor ? slum dwellers ? as they were called at the time, by making contraceptives more available there.
Over the years, comments made by Sanger about reproduction among the poor and minorities have led to her reputation as a racist and a belief that she wanted to ?weed? out blacks from society. Planned Parenthood has disputed that caricature and has pointed out her supporters in the black community, including Martin Luther King Jr., and W.E.B DuBois. Nevertheless, Childress and others repeatedly invoked her name as a major force behind a century-long ?genocide? on the black community.
According to a report released by the group of Students for Life America on Tuesday, black women are 4.8 times more likely to have an abortion than white women, while the black population in the U.S. is in decline. Black women account for 36 percent of those having abortions in the U.S. today, according to group, while black children make up 17 percent of live births.
?Contrary to the public?s belief that Planned Parenthood is helpful and supportive of family planning and the health of the mother and child, recent news and research show that the roots of its foundation have continued to give birth to continual hatred and disdain for minorities that its founder saw as 'unfit,'? the group says in its report.
In its response, Planned Parenthood emphasized that 97 percent of its services are focused on providing contraceptives, breast and cervical cancer screenings and sexually transmitted disease testing and treatment ? not abortions.
?Those services are more important than ever as this country faces a health care crisis ? too many women can't afford birth control, too many families don?t have adequate health insurance coverage and too many young people are faced with unintended pregnancies and sexually transmitted infections,? the organization said. ?As a safety-net provider, it is Planned Parenthood's mission to provide women, men and teens with affordable access to reproductive health care services and information, regardless of income.?
Meanwhile, Planned Parenthood of Idaho apologized in February for the comments made by its staff during the UCLA student investigation.
?A fundraising employee violated the organization?s principles and practices when she appeared to be willing to accept a racially motivated donation,? said the Idaho-based organization told the Idaho Statesman. ?We apologize for the manner in which this offensive call was handled. We take full responsibility for the actions of the fundraising staff member who created the impression that racism of any form would be tolerated at Planned Parenthood. We took swift action to ensure that each of our employees understands their responsibility to communicate clearly with donors about the fact that we believe in helping all individuals, regardless of gender, race or sexual orientation, make informed decisions about their reproductive health care.?
That's not enough for Lilly Epps, an activist who joined the pastors in denouncing Planned Parenthood on Thursday. She said she was 26 years old when she got an abortion in the clinic used to stage the protest. She said the day has come to get ?the truth? out about Planned Parenthood and what it is doing her community.
?I am a mad black woman,? she said. ?Words cannot say how angry I am, how ignorant I was. But I thank God I came to the truth.?
Thursday , April 24, 2008
By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
ADVERTISEMENT
WASHINGTON ?
The Planned Parenthood Federation of America has perpetuated a ?genocide on the black community,? says a group of African-American pastors who claimed Thursday the birth control and abortion provider has had a racist agenda since its beginnings in 1921.
Holding a brief vigil and press conference in front of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Washington, D.C., the group of pastors and activists said they were incensed by the results of recent ?undercover? inquiries into several Planned Parenthood clinics across the country.
?Every day ? over 1,500 black babies are murdered inside the black woman?s womb,? said Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, of Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny (BOND). ?This is a race issue.?
The pastors urged Congress to initiate an audit of the organization and have written letters demanding that money for Planned Parenthood be eliminated from federal Title X funding, of which the group got $65 million for fiscal year 2007, according to pro-life Concerned Women of America. In total, Planned Parenthood received $300 million in government contracts and grants in the current fiscal year.
The national office of Planned Parenthood provided FOX News with a lengthy statement on Thursday in which it said its role in the African-American community is widespread because the need is greater.
?The (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) revealed that a shocking number of teenage African-American girls ? nearly half ? carry a sexually transmitted infection," reads the statement. "This compares to an overall average rate for all teenage girls of at least one in four.
?The largest increases in the teen birthrate were reported for non-Hispanic black teens, whose overall rate rose five percent in 2006. In addition, African-American women are more likely to die of breast cancer than the general population,? it said.But an investigation, undertaken by students at the University of California at Los Angeles newspaper, The Advocate, revealed troubling responses from Planned Parenthood staffers when asked by an actor, posing as a ?donor,? if he could earmark his contribution for abortions for ?black babies? only.
In one example, Autumn Kersey, vice president for marketing at Planned Parenthood of Idaho, is asked whether a donation can be specified ?to help a minority group ? like the black community, for example.?
?Certainly,? Kersey says in a taped response in which she sounds genuinely encouraged by the offer. ?If you wanted to designate that your gift be used to help an African-American woman in need, then we would certainly make sure the gift as earmarked for that purpose.?
The caller responds: ?Great, because I really faced trouble with affirmative action, and I don?t want my kids to be disadvantaged against black kids. I just had a baby; I want to put it in his name.?
Kersey responds, ?Absolutely.?
The "donor" proceeds to proclaim that ?the less black kids out there the better,? followed by, ?understandable, understandable,? by Kersey, who laughed as if he were joking.
?Excuse my hesitation, this is the first time that I?ve had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I?m excited and want to make sure I don?t leave anything out,? she is recorded saying.
Kersey's and other statements were culled from calls to Planned Parenthood clinics in six states. In each, the staff person answering the call expressed an interest in taking the donations despite the caller?s overtly racist commentary.
That is part of a troubling trend, say critics, who accuse Planned Parenthood of targeting minority neighborhoods. They blame the institution for a disproportionate rate of abortions among black women.
?I think the media, and I think America, and certainly black folks, need to start thinking about race and Planned Parenthood, said Rev. Clenard Childress, who raised the question, not for the first time, about Planned Parenthood?s founder, Margaret Sanger, who died over 40 years ago at the age of 86.
Sanger, a pioneering advocate for universal access to birth control for women, was also a proponent of ?eugenics,? a philosophy that advocates social intervention, like birth control and abortion, for "improving" the hereditary traits of the human race. According to biographies written about Sanger, who was the sixth child of 11 eleven born to a rigid Catholic family in upstate New York, her support for this practice was focused on the ?unfit? and the poor ? slum dwellers ? as they were called at the time, by making contraceptives more available there.
Over the years, comments made by Sanger about reproduction among the poor and minorities have led to her reputation as a racist and a belief that she wanted to ?weed? out blacks from society. Planned Parenthood has disputed that caricature and has pointed out her supporters in the black community, including Martin Luther King Jr., and W.E.B DuBois. Nevertheless, Childress and others repeatedly invoked her name as a major force behind a century-long ?genocide? on the black community.
According to a report released by the group of Students for Life America on Tuesday, black women are 4.8 times more likely to have an abortion than white women, while the black population in the U.S. is in decline. Black women account for 36 percent of those having abortions in the U.S. today, according to group, while black children make up 17 percent of live births.
?Contrary to the public?s belief that Planned Parenthood is helpful and supportive of family planning and the health of the mother and child, recent news and research show that the roots of its foundation have continued to give birth to continual hatred and disdain for minorities that its founder saw as 'unfit,'? the group says in its report.
In its response, Planned Parenthood emphasized that 97 percent of its services are focused on providing contraceptives, breast and cervical cancer screenings and sexually transmitted disease testing and treatment ? not abortions.
?Those services are more important than ever as this country faces a health care crisis ? too many women can't afford birth control, too many families don?t have adequate health insurance coverage and too many young people are faced with unintended pregnancies and sexually transmitted infections,? the organization said. ?As a safety-net provider, it is Planned Parenthood's mission to provide women, men and teens with affordable access to reproductive health care services and information, regardless of income.?
Meanwhile, Planned Parenthood of Idaho apologized in February for the comments made by its staff during the UCLA student investigation.
?A fundraising employee violated the organization?s principles and practices when she appeared to be willing to accept a racially motivated donation,? said the Idaho-based organization told the Idaho Statesman. ?We apologize for the manner in which this offensive call was handled. We take full responsibility for the actions of the fundraising staff member who created the impression that racism of any form would be tolerated at Planned Parenthood. We took swift action to ensure that each of our employees understands their responsibility to communicate clearly with donors about the fact that we believe in helping all individuals, regardless of gender, race or sexual orientation, make informed decisions about their reproductive health care.?
That's not enough for Lilly Epps, an activist who joined the pastors in denouncing Planned Parenthood on Thursday. She said she was 26 years old when she got an abortion in the clinic used to stage the protest. She said the day has come to get ?the truth? out about Planned Parenthood and what it is doing her community.
?I am a mad black woman,? she said. ?Words cannot say how angry I am, how ignorant I was. But I thank God I came to the truth.?
Now am i paranoid or is this post laden with insults? Internet pussy :mj07: My address and name have been posted all over this site. Stop by if you want. You don't have to look to find me. Ur funny.
I think those pastors are ridiculous, and 'not helpful', as they say, in regards to race relations. Their comments are ridiculous.
How about THESE 'ministers?' And McCain and Bush don't even have to answer for their heartily accepting their endorsements or defend their friendship with them. Wayne, if your attention span fails you, just google John Hagee.
Thursday Feb. 28, 2008 07:40 EST
Some hateful, radical ministers -- white evangelicals -- are acceptable
One of this week's hysterical press scandals was that Minister Louis Farrakhan praised Barack Obama's candidacy even though Obama had previously denounced numerous Farrakhan remarks and the Obama campaign did nothing to seek out the Farrakhan praise. Nonetheless, Tim Russert demanded that Obama jump through multiple hoops to prove that he has no connection to -- and, in fact, "rejects" -- the ideas espoused by Farrakhan deemed to be radical and hateful.
Yesterday, though, the equally fringe, radical and hateful (at least) Rev. John Hagee -- a white evangelical who is the pastor of a sprawling "mega-church" in Texas -- enthusiastically endorsed John McCain. Did McCain have to jump through the same hoops which Russert and others set up for Obama and "denounce" Hagee's extremism and "reject" his support? No; quite the opposite. McCain said he was "very honored" to receive this endorsement and, when asked about some of Hagee's more twisted views, responded: "all I can tell you is that I am very proud to have Pastor John Hagee's support."
McCain's sainted supporter, Joe Lieberman, last year spoke to Hagee's group and lavished him with such obsequious praise that Lieberman actually compared Hagee, favorably, to Moses. Why is Louis Farrakhan deemed by our political establishment to be so radioactive as to not be fit for good company -- black candidates are required to repudiate his support even when they haven't sought it and denounce his views even when they've never advocated anything close to those views -- but John Hagee is a perfectly acceptable figure whom mainstream GOP politicians are free to court without any consequences or media objections?
Here is just a small sampling of the belief system of this welcomed McCain supporter:
* All Muslims are programmed to kill and we can thus never negotiate with any of them. From an NPR interview Hagee gave to Terry Gross in 2006:
TG: If you use the Bible as the basis for policy, is there any room for compromise? And if you use the bible as the basis for policy, should Muslims use the Koran as the basis for their policy, and then again, what possible basis is there for compromise at that point?
JH: There is really no room for compromise between radical Islam --
TG: I'm not talking about radical Islam. I'm just talking about Islam in general.
JH: Well Islam in general -- those who live by the Koran have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews.
* God caused Hurricane Katrina to wipe out New Orleans because it had a gay pride parade the week before and was filled with sexual sin. From the same interview:
JH: All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.
The newspaper carried the story in our local area, that was not carried nationally, that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it would was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other gay pride parades.
So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the Day of Judgment, and I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.
* The End Times -- Rapture -- is imminent and the U.S. Government must do what it can to hasten it, which at minimum requires: (a) a war with Iran and (b) undying, absolute support for a unified Israel, including all Occupied Territories (hence, Joe Lieberman's love affair with them). From Christian Palestinian Daoud Kuttab in The New York Times (h/t PZ Meyers):
A small minority of evangelical Christians have entered the Middle East political arena with some of the most un-Christian statements I have ever heard. . . . [Rev.] Hagee, a popular televangelist who leads the 18,000-member Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, ratcheted up his rhetoric this year with the publication of his book, "Jerusalem Countdown," in which he argues that a confrontation with Iran is a necessary precondition for Armageddon (which will mean the death of most Jews, in his eyes) and the Second Coming of Christ. In the best-selling book, Hagee insists that the United States must join Israel in a preemptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God's plan for both Israel and the West.
Hagee believes that "the president's support for Israel fulfills a biblical injunction to protect the Jewish state," which "will play a pivotal role in the second coming." These views are not unrelated to Hagee's support for McCain. Quite the contrary; Hagee cited McCain's so-called "pro-Israel views," his belligerence towards Iran, and his social conservatism as reasons for the endorsement. And in critical contrast to Obama and Farrakhan, McCain actually seems to share some of Hagee's more twisted views, as evidenced by McCain's joyful singing about dropping bombs on Iran.
The GOP has long been given a pass on courting the most warped and twisted religious figures around. George Bush spoke regularly with Pat Robertson -- never once forced to "denounce" or "reject" him. In 2006, Rev. Hagee had a private meeting with uber-White House neocon (and convicted criminal) Elliot Abrams, who just happens to run Middle East policy in the Bush administration, and afterwards, Hagee gushed that he and Abrams (like he and Lieberman) shared similar views towards the Middle East: "we felt we were on the right track."
Watching the media's treatment of Farrakhan and Hagee, is it possible to imagine a more transparent, and grotesque, double standard? In the framework of the Russert-led establishment press, white evangelical Christians are, by definition, entitled to great respect no matter how radical, extreme and hateful their professed views are. These are, after all, religious Christians -- People of Faith -- and, as such, it is wrong, even bigoted, to suggest that they should be repudiated. There is nothing ever radical, hateful or dangerous about the views of white evangelical Christians like Hagee.
Thus, white evangelical Ministers are free to advocate American wars based on Biblical mandates, rant hatefully against Islam, and argue that natural disasters occur because God hates gay people. They are still fit for good company, an important and cherished part of our mainstream American political system. The entire GOP establishment is permitted actively to lavish them with praise and court their support without the slightest backlash or controversy. Both George Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert sent formal greetings to the 2006 gathering of Hagee's group.
By contrast, black Muslim ministers like Farrakhan, or even black Christian ministers like Rev. Jeremiah Wright, are held with deep suspicion, even contempt. McCain is free to hug and praise the Rev. Hagees of the world, but Obama is required to prove over and over and over and over that he does not share the more extreme views of black Ministers.
How come Tim Russert -- in all the times he sits and chats with Lieberman, McCain and various high Bush officials -- never reads all of the inflammatory, disgusting, crazed "Rapture-is-Coming/ All-Jews-will-Burn/ Kill-All-Muslims/ Hurricanes-are-Punishment-against-Gays" pronouncements from John Hagee and James Dobson and Pat Robertson and demand that John McCain and George Bush and Joe Lieberman "denounce" those views and "reject" their support? What's the difference, exactly?
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Random thoughts from this thread:
1. What's the difference in a "black teen" and a "non-Hispanic black teen"? :shrug:
2. I think it's sad to think of a child as punishment.
3. On the flip side, if anyone has read Freakonomics, the author drew a direct correlation with the drop in crime rate in the 90s to the Roe v Wade trial date. It was a very interesting take.
4. Why do people from other parts of the country fall back on the south being stupid? It's a really ignorant statement. I would say the overall population make-ups in just about any large geographic area are about the same.
5. That Hagee guys says some really dumb things.
6. Why did I feel like numbering these thoughts was necessary?
Good day
1. What's the difference in a "black teen" and a "non-Hispanic black teen"? :shrug:
2. I think it's sad to think of a child as punishment.
3. On the flip side, if anyone has read Freakonomics, the author drew a direct correlation with the drop in crime rate in the 90s to the Roe v Wade trial date. It was a very interesting take.
4. Why do people from other parts of the country fall back on the south being stupid? It's a really ignorant statement. I would say the overall population make-ups in just about any large geographic area are about the same.
5. That Hagee guys says some really dumb things.
6. Why did I feel like numbering these thoughts was necessary?
Good day
Agree with you Matt on both issues
Lean toward pro life but believe not my for me to make decisions for other.
While have not attended church regularily--I used to never miss--have attended mostly Lutheran but occasionally attended others--probably been inside churchs over 1000 times--can never remember a minister/preist raising their voices or commenting negatively on any race or even discussing politics. I have serious issues with people that have to "fire up" listeners to get point across--where it be religion-commercials-sales meetings or whatever.
Lean toward pro life but believe not my for me to make decisions for other.
While have not attended church regularily--I used to never miss--have attended mostly Lutheran but occasionally attended others--probably been inside churchs over 1000 times--can never remember a minister/preist raising their voices or commenting negatively on any race or even discussing politics. I have serious issues with people that have to "fire up" listeners to get point across--where it be religion-commercials-sales meetings or whatever.
dude.....everybody`s getting a little "frayed' around here lately(including me)..give a warning shot,or something,lol...take it easy....personally,i`d prefer you didn`t get another "time out",cause i enjoy your banter...
i have to say that the little trick that the "right to lifers" played on planned parenthood was exceptionally devious...
calling to donate and then throwing in that stipulation about their specificallly using the donation for black abortions?....
then providing it to the media and "black leaders"(i use that term loosely when referring to al and jesse)....
thats ,to me,a bit much,and i`m no abortion fan...
i`m sort of surprised that,with this being an obvious set-up...and with no more evidence than a bad decision by some moronic phone-operator to go by,jesse and al pounced on this as "racism' condoned by the organization.....
things must be slow in the race-hustler business....which is surprising considering the void left by reverend wright....
this one stinks a bit,imo...
#1 I think its like the difference between Tim Duncan and Brendan Haywood, or maybe not.....doesn't make sense to me either
#2 look at the flip-side.......vast majority of children born to a teen mother basically start life with an 0-2 count.....who's the punished individual there?
#3 have yet to read Freakanomics, despite multiple urgings, but I will get to it when I get a chance, b/c it sounds interesting
#4 blame Larry the Cable Guy, Brittany, and anyone who still thinks the Civil war was about slaves and not economics or states rights......plus the mullet
#5 yes he does
#6 seems like a logical thing to do!:142smilie
PS.......I think "punish" was a poor word choice, but it really sounded like a dangling modifier to me 6-5............and I agree with Chad in that I plan to use "focktard" in context before the sun goes down today!
Hope all are well....
:mj07:
I think more people that don't live in the South believe that war was about slavery. That's been my experience at least.
glad focktard was so well received. :mj07:
