AFL Rd. 8...Finally!...

MrChristo

The Zapper
Forum Member
Nov 11, 2001
4,414
5
0
Sexlexia...
The All-Star/Big V. game was better than I thought it would be, but still didn't compare to a real game of footy...

...so upwards and onwards...

Friday Night game...looks a toughy (surprisingly!). No odds yet, but I'm guessing Collingwood will be decent favs...No Riewoldt now looks to be off-set a bit by no Fraser...esp. if King can be back.
Collingwood only got the ball inside 50 38 times v. a very good defensive Hawthorn...and really haven't played another "top" midfield imo (Sorry, Pawa! :142smilie )...
...Saints allow just 47...having said that, 40-54 last game v. Richmond is a HUGE concern...
...in fact, enough to put me right off I think!...yet 4 weeks ago went toe to toe with Geelong. :shrug:
Collingwood had 9 more shots in a win last season (no Rocca), despite having -6 I50's.
And it's a major concern (or is it just luck that will even out?) but Saints allowing opp. to kick unbelievably straight. Since rd. 2 they've given up 82.45!
Still, St. Kilda are the 3rd best defense (1.95) and better still considering the only 3 teams to have collared them have been Geelong and the Doggies. (Both undefeated, obviously :00hour )
No real idea...but depending on the odds, I'd be surprised if it was a Collingwood blow-out.

Another interesting game down here on Sat. Stats would suggest the Hawks, given they allow just 41 I50's, held Collingwood to 38 last week who were the secnd best at that stage, and now face a Port team who have only topped 50 once. (Last week v. a terrible Bombers...)
BUT, it's been shown that Hawthorn's backline is terrible when the ball does get there, and surprisingly Port have the 5th most effecient attack.
Port won here last season, with 5 more shots and +3 I50's as 2.50 'dogs...
But...they do have a disasterous D themselves, and Hawthorn should be able to kick another monster score here.
Really like the over in this one. Will very likely get a low total due to the venue. The highest total in Hawthorn's last 10 here has been 196 @ 162! and last meeting here was just 169.
I'll be happy to take aything from 199 downwards tho (weather permitting of course)...
...Hawks should win, but will be big favs. Port could be the dog of the round tho.

I really want to go against Geelong here...but can't possibly take Richmond.
Most of the Cats' games have been closer than the score suggests...which of course can mean two things!...and given they won both meetings last year by 157 and 70... :142smilie
The MCG will tighten things up, but this still could be the game that Geelong play 4 quarters.
Tigers unlucky last week, but have been belted by Kangas and Coll...statistically belted by Hawks and Dogs...
Geelong could win from anywhere from 2 goals to 150 points again!...every chance they'll be <1.20 tho.

Can't wait to see the odds for Carlton/Brisbane...SO much Carlton hype now, and they are playing quite well...but Lions are on fire atm. Have the most I50's in the last 4 games, and only the second biggest dif. behind Hawthorn.
A massive game v. Melbourne has inflated that a bit, but +6 @ Port, -4 v. the Hawks (who av. +11) and +2 @ Geelong last game!
Despite all the big names and talk, the Blues have really only gotten on top of Ess (and still lost!), Melbourne and WC, so this one will be much tougher for them than most will think.
After a bad loss @ WC rd. 1., Brisbane have lost too Hawthorn (12 points), Geelong and Sydney...both of which they were right in stats-wise.
No surprise Brisbane have been big favs in their recent games, and won accordingly...but hoping to get the Lions as 'dogs here. Would love a +10 or so...

Next 3 are all pretty boring... Kangaroos should belt West Coast (esp. no Kerr and likely Priddis still). They've lost all 3 road games by 10 goals +...
...but the Gold Coast venue worries me. 3 games there last year were two smallish wins and a loss...only beat Carlton by 17 (were 1.55 tho! How'd that happen?!)...
...and I don't think they're going all that well.
Will be massive favs. Not confident of big margin.

Crows minus just about anything! They've won last 4 meetings at home by 58, 54, 72 and 73...and are playing as well as ever.
Amazing home D, giving up just 20 shots @ 2.36, and at the other end Melbourne giving up 36 shots! Allowing most I50's and have 2nd worst D...although it has improved ever so slightly in their last 4.
Impossible to make a case for Melbourne. Would love Crows - low 30's?..

Sydney same boat as Kangas. Don't like them playing at ANZ...one big win there this year over WC, but only because they kicked so badly (5.15)...just +6 I50's.
Lost 2 games last year there as big favs...one small win v. St. Kilda.
Low scoring venue, but Essendon given up over 123 points in last 6!
Bombers did win by a point last year at the SCG as 3.90 'dogs... :scared
Staying well away.

Right, how much can the Doggies beat Freo by? :SIB
Obviously Freo are better at home, close losses to Hawthorn and Geelong...but then a complete flogging by Richmond!...
...but a TERRIBLE defense (although they may get some good players back this week) up against the highest scoring team looks like a total miss match.
Last week in Melbourne was the first time Freo had topped 100 points...Dogs lowest has been 112 last week...although they were outplayed by the Swans, there's no doubt the Dogs' defense and contested ball situations has improved dramatically.
Dogs won last year's meeting (in Darwin) by 26, despite having 8 less I50's...obviously that area has turned right around...+8 this season compared to -7 last!! :scared
Even at home Freo have the 4th worse defensive numbers, so Doggies should really kick a massive score and win easily.
Bit of a shame Freo lost last week, 'cause now the odds will be a bit skewed, but hopefully the Woofers will be backable. :SIB
 

MrChristo

The Zapper
Forum Member
Nov 11, 2001
4,414
5
0
Sexlexia...
Wooo!!

Might have spoken a bit too soon on some of those games now the odds are starting to appear...

Collingwood 1.75!! :scared I would have thought around the 1.50-1.40 even...on the Pies for sure at that price.

Brisbane only 1.90...

Dogs spot on 1.60 that I'd hoped for. :cool:

Reckon we'll see Adelaide -32.5 or so which will be nice.
 

MrChristo

The Zapper
Forum Member
Nov 11, 2001
4,414
5
0
Sexlexia...
God lord!!

I've just spotted the Doggies for 1.77!! :scared

Really could be one of the bets of the year @ 1.80! :0corn
 

PAWAQATSI

Kangaroos
Forum Member
Dec 8, 2001
1,874
3
0
the land of confusion
Collingwood only got the ball inside 50 38 times v. a very good defensive Hawthorn...and really haven't played another "top" midfield imo (Sorry, Pawa! :142smilie )...

Spot on C !!! We just don't have that "zing" that we played with last season. We are just struggling along atm :shrug:


Allstar game was a good one. Gave me a chance to turn off AFL for a while. I am concerned that my system continuity may be affected by the weeks break. With all my records gone it makes it hard to go back and check any other instances of a break and any variation on the outcome.

Don't know if I could trust Collingwood but Bris, Doggies & Adelaide look enticing.

Good luck this week dude :0corn
 

MrChristo

The Zapper
Forum Member
Nov 11, 2001
4,414
5
0
Sexlexia...
Think you're right about not trusting Collingwood Pawa...

...since I started with the intention of backing the Saints at long odds, I shouldn't do the 180 because of the Collingwood price.

Crows don't look like being lower than 35/36...

...so only one bet for me atm (not that I'm on yet, will wait for a few more books to set some lines)...will be Dogs -10.5 (2.10)
 

bombercoops

Registered User
Forum Member
Mar 17, 2003
1,845
4
0
44
oz
Glad to get back into some action this weekend. Cats give richmond a reality check this week IMO and it seems brisbane is slowly coming together.

Cats -26.5 x 1 unit
Brisbane PK x 1 unit
 

jer-z jock

Blow $$ Fast
Forum Member
Jun 11, 2007
4,564
3
0
ALAS!!!! Now I can finish building my bankroll, thanks again for all the plays-both Pawa and Mr. Christo, I dont know how its done but I like to say thanks again, I ahvent lost this thread I just kept my lips quiet as Pawa is KILLING IT and Mr. Christo u r grinding it out yourself, here's to a great season after the break:toast: :mj06:
 

MrChristo

The Zapper
Forum Member
Nov 11, 2001
4,414
5
0
Sexlexia...
Thanks jer-z. :toast:

You're right, Pawa is killing it right now, just hope I can keep up! (At least head in the same direction...)

This is pretty late with just half an hour or so before game time, but I better count it...

Hawthorn v. Port over 190.5 (2.04)

Even tho the weather isn't a issue down here, seems the books are running scared...no specific totals out...
...had to juggle a few 190-200, 200-210...etc...etc...but still happy with the final odds.
 

jer-z jock

Blow $$ Fast
Forum Member
Jun 11, 2007
4,564
3
0
No problem Christo, I have a question if you wouldnt mind. I am currently using 5dimes for this betting that I am following along in and this is what I show for the 1st few games...everything that is copied and pasted is all that was offered by the book atleast for the current day...I notice no ML and was wondering will that come into hurt m at sometime ya think? I am seeing different number posted and NO over and unders.....evaluation or even breakdown of these lines would be great to further my understanding as this is the 1st time Ive noticed that much disparity between you and Pawas offerings opposed to the books:shrug:

Aussie Rules Misc. Spread Money Line Total Points Team Total Points
Australia - NAB Cup 2008
Sat 5/17 107 Brisbane Lions -9? -115
5:15AM (EST) 108 Carlton Blues +9? -115
Sat 5/17 109 West Coast Eagles +27? -115
5:15AM (EST) 110 Kangaroos -27? -115
Sat 5/17 111 Melbourne Demons +39? -115
11:15PM (EST) 112 Adelaide Crows -39? -115
 

jer-z jock

Blow $$ Fast
Forum Member
Jun 11, 2007
4,564
3
0
Thanks jer-z. :toast:

You're right, Pawa is killing it right now, just hope I can keep up! (At least head in the same direction...)

This is pretty late with just half an hour or so before game time, but I better count it...

Hawthorn v. Port over 190.5 (2.04)

Even tho the weather isn't a issue down here, seems the books are running scared...no specific totals out...
...had to juggle a few 190-200, 200-210...etc...etc...but still happy with the final odds.

:00hour WINNER!!:00hour 7 mins remaining and it cashed:00hour
 

MrChristo

The Zapper
Forum Member
Nov 11, 2001
4,414
5
0
Sexlexia...
Worst thing about overs is having to watch the boring old game after no longer needing to count the scores! :142smilie

Na, great game actually. Port were a bit lucky early, but Hawks still showed a fair bit to get it done.
Can hardly wait for Dogs/Hawks down here in Rd. 10...both should be undefeated still (Sorry Pawa! :mj07: )...gunna be a cracking game. (And likely another over ;) )

jer-z, yeah, I guess it's a bit tough for you US guys. We've got access to, well, specifically, I'm with 15 different books...mostly Australian...so we get far more variety than you can (unfortunately).

I'll PM you with a list a bit later on...not sure how many accept US customers, but it will at least give you a chance to look about.

But, in the meantime, Pinnacle do AFL...and at much better prices too. :cool:

[HT...not wanting to jinx...but Pawa still on fire. :drinky: ]
 

jer-z jock

Blow $$ Fast
Forum Member
Jun 11, 2007
4,564
3
0
Worst thing about overs is having to watch the boring old game after no longer needing to count the scores! :142smilie

Na, great game actually. Port were a bit lucky early, but Hawks still showed a fair bit to get it done.
Can hardly wait for Dogs/Hawks down here in Rd. 10...both should be undefeated still (Sorry Pawa! :mj07: )...gunna be a cracking game. (And likely another over ;) )

jer-z, yeah, I guess it's a bit tough for you US guys. We've got access to, well, specifically, I'm with 15 different books...mostly Australian...so we get far more variety than you can (unfortunately).

I'll PM you with a list a bit later on...not sure how many accept US customers, but it will at least give you a chance to look about.

But, in the meantime, Pinnacle do AFL...and at much better prices too. :cool:

[HT...not wanting to jinx...but Pawa still on fire. :drinky: ]

Much appreciated, I guess it may be a wee bit harder as the US gov wants to control everything we do from gambling to who WE WANT AS PRESIDENT, o well I will see what I can do and will be awaiting your listing.....hopefully one of those books you send has a way around some of these rules same as 50cent does.
 

bombercoops

Registered User
Forum Member
Mar 17, 2003
1,845
4
0
44
oz
Long long season ahead..............

Anyways, from a betting standpoint the week went smoothly.

YTD: 7-5= + 3 units
 
Bet on MyBookie
Top