Carter's Brave Vision on Energy

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I know Weasel I know lets dig up those nine drops in Alaska and then the oil companies will all of the sudden become compassionate and give it to us for free, right after they send 90 percent of it to China. I know I know Carter is a bad man. I heard it on Fox.


Carter's Brave Vision on Energy
by David Morris


George W. Bush asking Americans to save oil by driving less reminds me of Jimmy Carter wearing a cardigan sweater and asking Americans to save oil by turning down our thermostats and, yes, by driving less.

But former President Carter was asking for individual sacrifice as a small part of an aggressive, national campaign. President Bush is asking for individual sacrifice instead of a national initiative.

Carter gave his first energy speech in February 1977. In July 1979, four months before Americans were taken hostage in Iran, he delivered his fifth energy address. To this day, that speech and its aftermath illuminate the profound differences between the way Democrats and Republicans address the oil crisis.

"Ten days ago I had planned to speak to you again about a very important subject -- energy," Carter began. "But as I was preparing to speak, I began to ask myself the same question that I now know has been troubling many of you. Why have we not been able to get together as a nation to resolve our serious energy problem?"

He told us he had set his speech aside and talked to hundreds of individuals. His conclusion? Americans had lost confidence in our capacity to act decisively and collectively to address and solve our problems. Republicans quickly dubbed the address the "malaise speech."

But to Carter the energy crisis offered an opportunity to regain our sense of hopefulness and national self-confidence. "Energy will be the immediate test of our ability to unite this nation, and it can also be the standard around which we rally," he observed. "On the battlefield of energy we can win for our nation a new confidence, and we can seize control again of our common destiny ... . It can rekindle our sense of unity, our confidence in the future, and give our nation and all of us individually a new sense of purpose."

Carter established a clear goal. "Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never. From now on, every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own production and our own conservation." By the end of the 1980s, the nation would reduce "our dependence on foreign oil by one-half."

To achieve these goals Carter requested of Congress "the most massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from unconventional gas, from the sun."

For Carter, fairness was to be an important criterion in shaping energy policy. Since the poor suffer most from rising energy prices, "Our nation must be fair to the poorest among us, so we will increase aid to needy Americans to cope with rising energy prices ... ."

Carter also applied the principle to the other end of the wealth spectrum: the oil companies reaping enormous profits because of OPEC-inspired price hikes.

"Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay," Carter insisted. "It will be money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by Americans to Americans."

Congress enacted much of what Jimmy Carter proposed. Coupled with the energy-efficiency standards for cars enacted by an earlier Democratic Congress, and the passage in 1978 of five energy bills directed at spurring energy efficiency and renewable energy, the Energy Security Act of 1980 created a comprehensive and coherent energy policy directed toward eliminating our dependence on imported oil.

Why don't we remember this? In part, because Ronald Reagan entered office only a year after Carter's speech and immediately set about dismantling or dramatically cutting back most of the programs enacted in the 1970s. The energy crisis subsided. A severe worldwide economic downturn in 1981 and 1982 cut the price of crude oil by 75 percent. Depending on imported oil didn't seem so important. The nation dropped back into lethargy.

Fast-forward to 2005. The price of oil again doubles. The Republican-controlled Congress passes an omnibus energy bill. But unlike the energy legislation of the late 1970s, this one does not target imported oil. Indeed, it contains virtually nothing that would reduce our reliance on oil.

Bush tells us to drive less, but unlike Carter, he refuses to demand that our cars become more efficient. Indeed, when California recently enacted legislation requiring new cars to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, the Bush administration joined the car companies in arguing that to achieve greenhouse gas reductions, car companies will have to raise fuel efficiency, and only the federal government has authority over vehicle efficiency. Even when the federal government refuses to do anything, Republicans argue, states cannot step in.

Give me Jimmy Carter in a cardigan sweater any day.
 

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You must be young--Carter had his chance--his policies resulted in gas rationing--and the worst economy in modern era--would you believe 18% interest rates.

--but if you like Carter I can understand your liking Obama--quite similiar ideas in economics-- foreign affairs-and dealing with terrorist.
 

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You must be young--Carter had his chance--his policies resulted in gas rationing--and the worst economy in modern era--would you believe 18% interest rates.

--but if you like Carter I can understand your liking Obama--quite similiar ideas in economics-- foreign affairs-and dealing with terrorist.

Did you read the part about Reagan immediately dismantling the gains?
 

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Come on, Sponge. The multipurpose tool is more or less right on this one. If we have oil that is out there, that our companies want to drill, and they're prevented for political reasons, then worrying about reliance on foreign oil is silly. It's like claiming to be concerned about terrorism while leaving our borders open.

Have you ever gone out on a charter boat on the ocean? They head straight for the rigs, if there are any around. Fish like the structure oil rigs provide. Without it, the ocean tends to be a vast and threatening plain bereft of hiding places.

IMO what needs to happen is the environmentalists quit acting like the earth is a religion. Act like adults and realize we need to make tradeoffs and compromises, not act holier than thou. We all eat, sh_t, drive cars, and use electricity. Give up these pathetic gimmicks like carbon footprints.
 

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Come on, Sponge. The multipurpose tool is more or less right on this one. If we have oil that is out there, that our companies want to drill, and they're prevented for political reasons, then worrying about reliance on foreign oil is silly. It's like claiming to be concerned about terrorism while leaving our borders open.

Have you ever gone out on a charter boat on the ocean? They head straight for the rigs, if there are any around. Fish like the structure oil rigs provide. Without it, the ocean tends to be a vast and threatening plain bereft of hiding places.

IMO what needs to happen is the environmentalists quit acting like the earth is a religion. Act like adults and realize we need to make tradeoffs and compromises, not act holier than thou. We all eat, sh_t, drive cars, and use electricity. Give up these pathetic gimmicks like carbon footprints.

Tapir i don't have a problem with drilling but these thieving pricks will come up with every sneaky reason in the book to still gouged us and run their bullshit lines to Fox and then the simpletons in the country will buy all the bullshit and then there will be another plan. To think these rotten pricks are all the sudden gonna become compassionate is foolish. Chavez offered us a solution and the two oil guys said no just like any greedy self centered dick would.
 

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I would agree that our leadership has been lax in developing an enegy program to rid ourselves of foreign oil, but the fast forward to 2005 conveniently skips the Clinton administration, who also was not particularly effective in that regard -
also, I believe thare have been periods of Democratic-controlled congress, so let's not kid ourselves - both parties are to blame, as well as the energy-wasting, gas-guzzling public

- since any attempts to increase development of our own oil reserves is met with strong resistance,
we will remain dependent on foreign sources for quite a long time, unless we use our technological expertise to develop an alternative approach ( if the person making the tech advances is not eliminated first )
 

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Tapir i don't have a problem with drilling but these thieving pricks will come up with every sneaky reason in the book to still gouged us

yes, but at the end of the day, the oil companies produce oil that we all need and use. politicians are thieving pricks who produce nothing but carbon dioxide and wars for israel.

i'm not as ready as you are to go after the motives of the oil company. their hands are bound by law it's not just the drilling. my understanding is that the main block is the refinery bottleneck. the laws essentially make it impossible, legally or financially, to build new refineries. oil companies are giant ships. they can't turn on a dime. when they're being demonized around the clock, and the laws restrict their activity, what do you expect them to do? same thing with nuclear. clean, safe energy. can't be used because the lefty counterparts to the Fox morons run around mystifying nuclear energy and turn opposition to it into a holy war.

and run their bullshit lines to Fox and then the simpletons in the country will buy all the bullshit and then there will be another plan.

cant argue with that. i just repeat that you're not taking into account the difficulty and cost associated with drilling for oil - conditions brought about in large part thanks to laws passed by the 'greed' crowd. politics is bullshit. producing oil and gas takes actual money and brains. there's a category difference between politicians and oilers.
 

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I would agree that our leadership has been lax in developing an enegy program

This religious attitude toward government amazes me. Just what qualifies anybody in Congress/executive/judicial to develop an energy program? Seriously? Don't you think that people who've put their lives into extraction know just a smidgen more than clowns expert in lying and lobbying alone?

Is the government doing so well in Iraq that it's ready to take on energy? or health care? or food supply?

Govt is the problem, and you act like it's Jesus. All we have to do is ask it, and it will swing the Miracle of the Barrels.

Seriously - the problems we have with energy are CAUSED by government. The only role govt has in energy is NOT FkING THING UP. Which is of course, like everything else, well outside its capacity.
 
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You must be young--Carter had his chance--his policies resulted in gas rationing--and the worst economy in modern era--would you believe 18% interest rates.

--but if you like Carter I can understand your liking Obama--quite similiar ideas in economics-- foreign affairs-and dealing with terrorist.

I agree, Carter was the worst but the interest rates and inflation rate numbers can't be mesured the same way. The price of everything is up but The numbers don't reflect that. Why is that ? They do but not to the casual observer. Carter inflation = Bush inflation.
 

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I will ask this again. Why didn't the Republicans, when they had six full years of do anything they want, why didn't they drill then? :shrug: I am thinking the answer was that it was not profitable enough to drill. Now that big oil has raised the price of oil to unheard of levels, now there is big profits in drilling. Therefor the push to drill.
There is no shortage. In Carters day there was a shortage. The Arabs were not drilling. Today we have more than enough. The only problem is that Big Oil has driven the price of a barrel of oil to $135 a barrel. Just my humble opinion but you never heard a word about drilling when oil was 20 bucks a barrel.
 

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I will ask this again. Why didn't the Republicans, when they had six full years of do anything they want, why didn't they drill then? :shrug: I am thinking the answer was that it was not profitable enough to drill. Now that big oil has raised the price of oil to unheard of levels, now there is big profits in drilling. Therefor the push to drill.
There is no shortage. In Carters day there was a shortage. The Arabs were not drilling. Today we have more than enough. The only problem is that Big Oil has driven the price of a barrel of oil to $135 a barrel. Just my humble opinion but you never heard a word about drilling when oil was 20 bucks a barrel.

The oil companies & Bush Administration have done nothing to get their friends in the Middle East to pump it a little faster but the demad is real. We didn't have the China/India consumpstion in the 70's that we have today. The demand is real, there is no shortage but The American People have no allies in Washington/oil companies/Middle East. It's us against them. Our move ! They are laughing at us. They don't have a gun to Our heads, We live in a democracy People. We have choices. We have to to start thinking like free people. They have their plan, What's Ours ? Without discipline there can be no freedom !
 

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So lets say we drill in Alaska, what is it really going to do? Will they have more refineries to work with? I don't understand, everyone wants to bitch about it but if we don't do something on that end then it will not matter. The only new refineries are being built in foreign countries which leaves us in the same place, looking to other countries for more oil.

Funny thing is it's the same people that gripe about the environment and what new refineries would do to it and then say Bush is the reason gas prices are high. You can't have it both ways.
 
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