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After watching Obama speak last night in St. Paul, then do the hand shake thing in the crowd, this horrible feeling came over me that he is not going to make it until November. And you know what I mean by that.

I am just so concerned with the extreme's living in this country, that someone or some group will take a shot at him. We live in a violent society. He proposes some major changes especially in the area of universal health care.

These areas will, if successful, move a lot of dollars from one pocket to another. If try to change anything that is very established, health care, social security, medicaid, organized crime, you run the risk someone deciding to chop the head off of the snake (so to speak of course). Or it could just take one nutbag.

I just had this awful, MLK, Bobby/John Kennedyesqe, Hillary Clintonesqe, feeling last night as I saw him in that crowd. It'll just take one nut bag. In that regard, where has Dr. Freeze been? For the sake of the country and the world, I hope I'm wrong.

Eddie
 

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Skully:

Why would you say that? Right now I hear she has made the following demands prior to getting out of the race:

1) secretary of state or defense
2) supreme court for Bill
3) assurances that he never bang Chelsea.

That would keep everyone happy on both sides (except maybe Chelsea).

Eddie
 

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I am worried that the neocon crowd will have a lot to say. No way they are goingto want to lose their influence. I think he makes it until November unless they are really desperate and decide to create so much chaos the election gets delayed. Of course the guy could be a phony and a neocon in which case he has nothing to worry about.
 

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After watching Obama speak last night in St. Paul, then do the hand shake thing in the crowd, this horrible feeling came over me that he is not going to make it until November. And you know what I mean by that.

I am just so concerned with the extreme's living in this country, that someone or some group will take a shot at him. We live in a violent society. He proposes some major changes especially in the area of universal health care.

These areas will, if successful, move a lot of dollars from one pocket to another. If try to change anything that is very established, health care, social security, medicaid, organized crime, you run the risk someone deciding to chop the head off of the snake (so to speak of course). Or it could just take one nutbag.

I just had this awful, MLK, Bobby/John Kennedyesqe, Hillary Clintonesqe, feeling last night as I saw him in that crowd. It'll just take one nut bag. In that regard, where has Dr. Freeze been? For the sake of the country and the world, I hope I'm wrong.

Eddie

he`s obligated to take hillary as v.p....so he`s basically starting with one hamstring severed...

i`m trying to decide whether it`s safer for bock to take hillary as v.p. or to snub her.......

having someone so hellbent on being president one heartbeat away is a scary proposition,imo...

sounds crazy?....ask michele obama...
 

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I caught myself looking in the crowd a few times. He just looks to comfortable for my liking. I was even looking at his suit and it didn't even look like he had a bullet proof vest on:shrug:
 

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he`s obligated to take hillary as v.p....so he`s basically starting with one hamstring severed...

i`m trying to decide whether it`s safer for bock to take hillary as v.p. or to snub her.......

having someone so hellbent on being president one heartbeat away is a scary proposition,imo...

sounds crazy?....ask michele obama...

He should run from Hillary. She thinks she actually got all those votes and its a joke to think she did. You notice she started to pick up steam after McCain had his clinched? In Pa where i said it was common knowledge around here that Republican were going out in big numbers to vote for her. These were all Republicans voting out of spite to be the phonies they are. She won't get one of those phony votes back. I know you cant understand this Weasel because seeing a con job isn't one of your best attributes but the neocons want her in that position because they think it will energize their base. Webb, Clarke and Biden for me. Id love to even see him take a shot at Richard Clarke or even Chuck Hagel. If he takes Clarke tell McCain the songbird that his biggest strengh is now neutralized. I still don't know how official this is but a buddy of mine said that in one of those states last night a person is not allowed to change their registration to vote in the primary. I bet it was Montana where Hillary got drilled just like she probably would in almost every state if it wasn't for you sheep listening to Limbaugh.
 
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sponge...he can`t run from her...she has the working class and women tied up in a bow....

she let him know...in no uncertain terms last night,"you pick me or you`re toast"......

his power is undermined from jump street by hill nad bill...

they`ll "share" the presidency...

if there are odds on whether hil is v.p.,someone point me in that direction...
 

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I am worried that the neocon crowd will have a lot to say. No way they are goingto want to lose their influence. I think he makes it until November unless they are really desperate and decide to create so much chaos the election gets delayed. Of course the guy could be a phony and a neocon in which case he has nothing to worry about.

stevie...i'm surprised that smurphy hasn't said anything about your repetitious posts...oh i forgot he only comments on repetitious posts if he doesn't agree with them....
 

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After watching Obama speak last night in St. Paul, then do the hand shake thing in the crowd, this horrible feeling came over me that he is not going to make it until November. And you know what I mean by that.

I am just so concerned with the extreme's living in this country, that someone or some group will take a shot at him. We live in a violent society. He proposes some major changes especially in the area of universal health care.

These areas will, if successful, move a lot of dollars from one pocket to another. If try to change anything that is very established, health care, social security, medicaid, organized crime, you run the risk someone deciding to chop the head off of the snake (so to speak of course). Or it could just take one nutbag.

I just had this awful, MLK, Bobby/John Kennedyesqe, Hillary Clintonesqe, feeling last night as I saw him in that crowd. It'll just take one nut bag. In that regard, where has Dr. Freeze been? For the sake of the country and the world, I hope I'm wrong.

Eddie

hopefully nothing happens to obama but you should take medication for your paranoia...

people should worry about things that they can control & shouldn't lose sleep over things that are beyond their control...
 

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Eddie

If I were you I would be more worried about a guy in a rabbit suit with a louisville slugger hidden down the leg.

I did have that same feeling watching him last night in that crowd. I wonder if they have metal detectors before they let people into the building.
 

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stevie...i'm surprised that smurphy hasn't said anything about your repetitious posts...oh i forgot he only comments on repetitious posts if he doesn't agree with them....
Al, I am surprised that you attack me. But we are friends and I will let it go. You must have missed all the other repitious posts. I guess I must be the only guy here who is consistent!:mj07:
 

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Al, I am surprised that you attack me. But we are friends and I will let it go. You must have missed all the other repitious posts. I guess I must be the only guy here who is consistent!:mj07:

stevie....that wasn't meant as an attack on you.... but murphy has commented about me & dtb posting repetitious posts...so i wanted to know why he hasn't said anything about others doing it....& btw it's good to be consistent....:142smilie
 

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stevie...i'm surprised that smurphy hasn't said anything about your repetitious posts...oh i forgot he only comments on repetitious posts if he doesn't agree with them....

I generally don't read those babblings. Interesting - you assumed the worst about me, when in fact I was paying more respect to you and DTB than you realized. Was that a mistake on my part?
 

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After watching Obama speak last night in St. Paul, then do the hand shake thing in the crowd, this horrible feeling came over me that he is not going to make it until November. And you know what I mean by that.

I am just so concerned with the extreme's living in this country, that someone or some group will take a shot at him. We live in a violent society. He proposes some major changes especially in the area of universal health care.

These areas will, if successful, move a lot of dollars from one pocket to another. If try to change anything that is very established, health care, social security, medicaid, organized crime, you run the risk someone deciding to chop the head off of the snake (so to speak of course). Or it could just take one nutbag.

I just had this awful, MLK, Bobby/John Kennedyesqe, Hillary Clintonesqe, feeling last night as I saw him in that crowd. It'll just take one nut bag. In that regard, where has Dr. Freeze been? For the sake of the country and the world, I hope I'm wrong.

Eddie

Would that be one the (1/3 --2/3 plus expense pockets) -your speaking of Edward
;)
 

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--and you have added considerations Edward

If we didn't get Hussein (Saddam) your liberal attorneys couldn't have defended him.

How many are of ACLU are working on detainees at gitmo

From your boys--
As Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Is Formally Charged, Government Delays Security Clearance For Civilian Defense Lawyers (5/13/2008)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: (212) 519-7811 or 549-2666; media@aclu.org

NEW YORK ? The U.S. government continues to delay security clearances for attorneys seeking to represent Khalid Sheikh Mohammed even as formal charges are announced against him and four other detainees today as part of the Bush administration's military commission system. The efforts of civilian attorneys to represent Mohammed are part of the John Adams Project ? a partnership between the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers ? designed to provide legal teams to represent Guant?namo detainees.

"The ACLU has offered to represent Khalid Sheikh Mohammed because his case - like that of other Guant?namo detainees - is being prosecuted in an unconstitutional, unfair, and biased proceeding that makes a mockery of our Constitution and American values, including the right to a fair trial," said Anthony D. Romero, Executive Director of the ACLU. "When these fundamental principles are threatened, the ACLU has always and will always step in to defend them."
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In case anyone not familiar with Edwards clans new clients--heres look from the other side

Accused 9/11 mastermind wants death sentence
By ANDREW O. SELSKY, Associated Press Writer
22 minutes ago

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - Khalid Sheikh Mohammed said Thursday that he would welcome the death penalty for his confessed role as mastermind of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

"Yes, this is what I wish, to be a martyr for a long time," Mohammed told a military judge who warned that he faces execution if convicted of organizing the attacks on America. "I will, God willing, have this, by you."

The former No. 3 leader of al-Qaida and four alleged co-conspirators were being arraigned Thursday in their long-awaited first appearance before a war-crimes tribunal. All five face death if convicted of war crimes including murder, conspiracy, attacking civilians and terrorism in the 2001 attacks, which killed 2,973 people.

Mohammed wore thick glasses and a turban and stroked a bushy gray beard, in stark contrast to the disheveled hair, unshaven face and T-shirt he wore when he was captured in Pakistan in 2003.

Appearing calm as he propped his glasses on his turban to peer at legal papers, Mohammed also grinned and exchanged a few words with someone at the defense table occupied by Waleed bin Attash, who allegedly selected and trained some of the 19 hijackers who turned airplanes into missiles in the attacks.

The arraignment of the alleged al-Qaida co-conspirators begins the highest-profile test yet of the military's tribunal system, which faces an uncertain future. The Supreme Court is to rule this month on the rights of Guantanamo prisoners, potentially delaying or halting the proceedings.

It also carries some strategic risk: the military is trying to minimize the chance that Mohammed will be able to spread al-Qaida propaganda in courtoom speeches. The judge, Marine Col. Ralph Kohlmann, announced a 20-second delay in the closed-circuit video feed to prevent classified information from being disclosed outside the courtroom.

It is the first public appearance for Mohammed since his capture in Pakistan in 2003. He was held in CIA custody at secret sites and then transferred to the U.S. Navy base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2006, where the exact location of his cell also is top-secret.

Mohammed's defense team has said he may have suffered cognitive impairment from harsh interrogations in CIA custody. The Bush administration acknowledged in February that Mohammed was waterboarded ? a technique that involves strapping a person down and pouring water over his or her cloth-covered face to create the sensation of drowning.

The Supreme Court struck down the commissions as unconstitutional in 2006. Congress then altered and resurrected them, but they have remained mired in confusion over courtroom rules, dogged by delays, and challenged repeatedly as unconstitutional.

Military commissions have been conducted since George Washington used them after the end of the Revolutionary War, but this is the first time the United States has used them during an ongoing conflict, said Air Force Brig. Gen. Tom Hartmann, a top tribunal official.

Army Col. Steve David, chief defense counsel for the tribunals, said the military commissions are "fundamentally flawed."

"We will zealously identify and expose each and every (flaw)," Davis said Wednesday.

The defense attorneys accused the U.S. of rushing the trial to influence this year's presidential elections. They recently asked Kohlmann to dismiss the case and remove Hartmann, who was accused of political meddling by a former chief prosecutor for the tribunals.

Hartmann has insisted the trials will be fair, and said he has not been asked to recuse himself from the upcoming trial.

Journalists were allowed to see the closed-circuit TV feed from a nearby press room. Some other observers including Fang A. Wong, a senior American Legion member, also were allowed to see the arraignment, which comes seven years after the attacks.

"I'm from the New York area, and I have been waiting for this for a long time," Wong said as he waited to be searched by soldiers before entering the tightly guarded court complex.

Guards were near the men but no firearms were to be allowed in the courtroom, said Army Col. Wendy Kelly. Mohammed and the other four detainees can be restrained by retractable leg chains hidden underneath the raised courtroom floor if they become unruly, she said.

With less than eight months remaining in U.S. President George W. Bush's term, presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain both say they want to close the military's offshore detention center.

Obama opposed the Military Commissions Act that in 2006 resurrected the military commissions, but McCain supported it.

The modular courtroom can be taken down and "sent to Fort Bragg, Fort Lewis, or any installation that needs a big courtroom," Kelly said.

The military expects the joint arraignment of the five to last just one day. The prisoners will be formally notified of the nature of the charges, will be told of their rights to attorneys and will be given the opportunity to enter a plea, though they do not have to enter one, Hartmann said before the hearing began.

The other defendants are: Ramzi Binalshibh, said to have been the main intermediary between the hijackers and al-Qaida leaders; Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, known as Ammar al-Baluchi, a nephew and lieutenant of Mohammed; al-Baluchi's assistant, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi.


Thats OK Edward- We'll continue to capture and kill terrorist and liberals can continue to try and obstruct methods of doing so and defend them. :)
 

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After watching Obama speak last night in St. Paul, then do the hand shake thing in the crowd, this horrible feeling came over me that he is not going to make it until November. And you know what I mean by that.

I am just so concerned with the extreme's living in this country, that someone or some group will take a shot at him. We live in a violent society. He proposes some major changes especially in the area of universal health care.

These areas will, if successful, move a lot of dollars from one pocket to another. If try to change anything that is very established, health care, social security, medicaid, organized crime, you run the risk someone deciding to chop the head off of the snake (so to speak of course). Or it could just take one nutbag.

I just had this awful, MLK, Bobby/John Kennedyesqe, Hillary Clintonesqe, feeling last night as I saw him in that crowd. It'll just take one nut bag. In that regard, where has Dr. Freeze been? For the sake of the country and the world, I hope I'm wrong.

Eddie

I think I mentioned this a while ago and got SLAMMED for it. The only reason I did not want him to get the nod is there are too many nutjobs out there. IIIFFF he gets shot, the Rodney King riots are going to look like Playhouse Disney.

I do fear for his life, but when I stated this months ago I believe it was eluded that I was a racist for saying so.
 

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I think I mentioned this a while ago and got SLAMMED for it. The only reason I did not want him to get the nod is there are too many nutjobs out there. IIIFFF he gets shot, the Rodney King riots are going to look like Playhouse Disney.

I do fear for his life, but when I stated this months ago I believe it was eluded that I was a racist for saying so.

Dawg, you could be close to the truth there.
 
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