5.6 Billion Went Where?

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Irresponsibility abound....can't wait for this administration to exit stage left.

$5.6 billion went ... where?
GAO: No proof money to Pakistan went to fight terrorism

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:21 AM
By Anne Flaherty

ASSOCIATED PRESS

EMILIO MORENATTI ASSOCIATED PRESS
A girl, her face covered with mud, helps her brother fix their house in a refugee camp near Islamabad, Pakistan. A Pentagon spokesman told Congress that Pakistan has taken many casualties and created refugees in fighting terrorism.
WASHINGTON -- The United States has given Pakistan $5.6 billion to pursue terrorists since the Sept. 11 attack, but with little to no proof that the money has been used for that purpose, an independent audit has found.

The assessment by the Government Accountability Office, released yesterday, angered members of Congress who say they are concerned that Pakistan -- the nation's closest ally in the war on terrorism -- is milking the U.S. government.

The GAO found, for example, that the U.S. recently gave Pakistan more than $200 million for air-defense radars without bothering to investigate whether the money was needed specifically to go after terrorists. Another example included $45 million for road and bunker construction without evidence they were ever built.

"The U.S. government is being asked to reimburse Pakistan for non-incremental air-defense radar maintenance when al-Qaida is not even known to have an air force," said Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. "The purpose of these funds is to support the fight against extremists, not to boost Pakistan's conventional warfare capability."

Since the 2001 terrorist attack, the U.S. has given Pakistan some $10.8 billion in aid. About half of the money, $5.6 billion, has been used to reimburse Pakistan for military operations. The country is by far the largest recipient of U.S. military aid, designated "coalition support funds," because of the influx of al-Qaida and Taliban fighters into its unpoliced tribal areas along the Afghan border.

"We need better oversight and visibility regarding where these funds are going," said Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., the top Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform's national security and foreign affairs subcommittee.

"Apparently, the Bush administration cares so little about the hunt for Osama bin Laden that it is barely paying attention to how the Pakistani military is carrying out the fight," Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said in a statement.

"It seems as though the Pakistani military went on a spending spree with American taxpayers' wallets and no one bothered to investigate the charges," said Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee. "How hard would it have been to confirm that a road we paid $15 million for was ever built?"

The Defense Department said the GAO report did not give sufficient weight to Pakistan's contributions to the war on terrorism, which officials say have been substantial.

"They've captured or killed more al-Qaida and Taliban than any other coalition partner and have sustained more than 1,400 combat deaths," Ret. Maj. Gen. Bobby Wilkes, deputy assistant defense secretary for South Asia, told the House subcommittee.

Wilkes added that "there are no easy answers" but said the program is among the most successful efforts available to fight terrorism.

The GAO agreed that the program is critical but concluded that the Defense Department still had not followed existing guidance to account for the money.

"As a result, we conclude that Defense cannot accurately determine how much of the ($5.6 billion) in costs reimbursed to Pakistan since 2001 were actually incurred," the GAO wrote.

In a separate April report, the GAO concluded that Pakistan had been unable to defeat terrorists inside its borders despite the influx of U.S. cash and that its security forces were not structured to target an insurgency and face equipment and training deficiencies.

Information from The Washington Post was included in this story.

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...in the history of worse posts.

The office of President of the United States has ZERO control over how money is spent in this country, or by this government. Just more liberal bullshit we have have to wade through around here.

Go post this shit somewhere else.

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oh and ftr

oh and ftr

Speaking of trolls, where have you been Tenzing?

This post is highly constructive and doesn't in any way suggest that the left-wing troll nut jobs who post here are low life scum balls, or vile vermin, just wanna clear that up.
 

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Zero ability to spend money - if you overlook that little veto thingie he's got :mj07:

Your just stupid



http://www.worldpress.org/Asia/1434.cfm

Debt of Gratitude
Rachel S. Taylor
World Press Review special projects editor


Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf addresses reporters at Camp David, June 24, 2003 (Photo: Stephen Jaffe/AFP-Getty Images).
On June 24, Pakistan?s president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, made a much-anticipated visit to the United States, where he visited President Bush at his Camp David retreat. The two men discussed Pakistan?s role in the war against terrorism, the Kashmir dispute, and Pakistani recognition of Israel.

Musharraf left the meeting with a pledge from his host of US$3 billion in economic aid over five years. If approved by the U.S. Congress, half of this package is to be used to pay off Pakistan?s foreign debt, the other half for military purchases. Trade and scientific agreements were also signed.

But there was no consensus in the Pakistani press about whether the trip had been a success. As the Business Recorder noted (June 26): ?The package easily lends itself to the glass half-full or half-empty analogy.?

Anwar Ahmad, writing in The News (June 30), summed up the complaints of Musharraf?s critics, noting that the meeting produced ?no debt write-off, no increased market access, no encouraging word on Kashmir, no balm for the Pakistanis in the United States, no F-16s, the promise of a measly five-year aid package of $3 billion, and a near-commitment to throw Pak troops into the Iraqi inferno.?

More specifically, many analysts observed that the aid package was insufficient to cover Pakistan?s post-Sept. 11 losses. Attaul Haq Qasmi, writing in Daily Jang (June 27), noted that the ?American government has itself declared that Pakistan suffered a $10-billion loss as a result of the policies the United States required of it after the Sept. 11 tragedy.?

But, as Rasul Bakhsh Rais made clear in The News (June 28), not everyone was so pessimistic. ?Realistically, what could be better than [what] we have got?? he asked, pointing out that ?as this relationship grows and confidence in each other further develops, there will be more avenues of cooperation between the two countries.?

Several commentators worried that the aid was a quid pro quo for Pakistani support of a U.S. agenda. Zubeida Mustafa, writing in Dawn (July 9), likened the package to an ?American noose round our neck,? which ?only reinforces the begging-bowl image which has stuck to us since Pakistan emerged as an independent state in 1947.?

In Rais? piece for The News (June 28), he noted three entailments implicit in the aid: ?First, Pakistan will continue to support the United States in Afghanistan, work with the Karzai government, deny its territory to the Taliban and
Al-Qaeda, and help the U.S. authorities capture the wanted figures. Second, Pakistan will not share its nuclear technology and material with any power,...will tighten its domestic control mechanisms, and will support the general efforts
controlling nuclear proliferation.
Third is the tricky issue of restoring democracy.?

An editorial in Nawa-i-Waqt (June 26) further suggested: ?Pakistan will be pressured to recognize the illegitimate state of Israel. It might also have to accept a specific solution to the Kashmir issue that runs against the interest of Kashmiris and Pakistanis. Besides, Pakistan will be required to send a contingent to Iraq to lend support to the U.S. troops to crush the Iraqi resistance. This will be seen as a reprehensible move that runs against the Islamic spirit. The United States is planning to target Iran as it did Iraq and Afghanistan. Thus, it seeks Pakistan?s support to launch a strike against Iran.?

Many harped on the U.S. refusal to sell F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan. ?It was imperative that Pakistan be given the F-16s to maintain the military balance between India and Pakistan,? wrote Mukhtar Ahmad Butt in Daily Jang (June 28).

Although most writers agreed with this conclusion, at least some could understand the U.S. logic. Talat Masood wrote in Dawn (July 9): ?Firstly, [selling Pakistan F-16s] would have seriously affected the U.S. strategic relationship with India, which it greatly values. Second, F-16s are capable of delivering nuclear weapons, and that would go against America?s non-proliferation policy.?

The site of the meeting?Camp David?was also the subject of much discussion. Dawn?s Mustafa noted (July 9): ?Sycophants were ecstatic over the fact that the president was one of the very few world leaders to have been
invited to Camp David....[Indian] Prime Minster Vajpayee had not enjoyed a similar honor.?

But others, such as Shafqat Mahmood, writing in The News (June 27), claimed that while the United States ?will provide the atmospherics to stoke our ego,? they will ?give very little? of substance. He continued: ?They agreed to receive [Musharraf] at Camp David and we couldn?t contain ourselves. He is the first South Asian leader ever to be invited to this retreat, was the official spin, as if this by itself was a great achievement. We walked around with a general air of triumph as if the battle had already been won. The small matter of our substantive agenda reaching a satisfactory conclusion shrunk into the background.?

The fact that the meeting took place at all, commentators agreed, showed how much has changed for Pakistan since Sept. 11, 2001. The News? Mir Jamilur Rahman wrote (June 28): ?The Camp David talks were a roaring success for the policies formulated by Gen. Pervez Musharraf in the aftermath of 9/11.?

Najam Sethi of The Friday Times noted (June 27-July 3): ?Considering that Pakistan not so long ago was a ?pariah state? with a ?useless dictator,? this is not a bad beginning.? And as Dawn?s Mahir Ali pointedly reminded his readers: ?There?s a minor irony in the fact...that in the run-up to the 2000 presidential election, Bush was deemed to have flunked the foreign-policy test when he drew a blank on being asked to name Pakistan?s new military ruler.?
 

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Here we go again with the useless dribble, and trolling. This quite possibly the best retort I've ever seen on these forums.

You're making a bit of a mistake, which of course nobody would care about if you, of all people, didn't fashion himself as the grammar police.

It's 'drivel', not 'dribble.'
 

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so...

so...

Zero ability to spend money - if you overlook that little veto thingie he's got :mj07:

Your just stupid [/quote}

...you agree with me that the assessment of the other 299,999,999 Americans of our Constitution saying that Congress regulates spending...?

Highly constructive post, I'm glad to see you left-wing nut jobs STILL think it's okay to use ad hominem attacks in lieu of ON TOPIC retorts.

I'm used to how debased and moronic your posts are, it just NEVER ceases to amaze me, though.
 

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Zero ability to spend money - if you overlook that little veto thingie he's got :mj07:

Your just stupid [/quote}

...you agree with me that the assessment of the other 299,999,999 Americans of our Constitution saying that Congress regulates spending...?

Highly constructive post, I'm glad to see you left-wing nut jobs STILL think it's okay to use ad hominem attacks in lieu of ON TOPIC retorts.

I'm used to how debased and moronic your posts are, it just NEVER ceases to amaze me, though.

Skullfuk - learn to use the quote feature

D-U-M

Dum
 

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Skullfuk - learn to use the quote feature

D-U-M

Dum

Wow, I got a ban for not even calling anyone a name, which I wasn't even allowed to appeal, and all these guys use cuss words directed right at me.

Real smart, Mr. Internet Tough Guy.

You left-wing nut jobs are so asinine it's incredible. Even tho I know you morons are just here to troll, flame and slur, it still NEVER ceases to amaze me how puerile and moronic you losers are.

When non-left-wing nut jobs get on these forums, and read these posts, they don't think of you as intelligent, Bobby, just to let you know. All you have done, is confirm peoples suspicions about you.
 
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"The office of President of the United States has ZERO control over how money is spent in this country"

Which branch of the government dictates the budget?

Hmmm........

might want to stick to D&D Mage boy.
 

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...in the history of worse posts.

The office of President of the United States has ZERO control over how money is spent in this country, or by this government. Just more liberal bullshit we have have to wade through around here.

Go post this shit somewhere else.

Brilliant post, sir. Give yourself a high-five for making yourself look completely ignorant in only a handul of words. As one of the members has already pointed out, the President is responsible for the budget. If you think about that for a good two seconds, it will probably hit you that it would be more accurate to say that the President has ALL of the control over how money is spent, rather than the ZERO number you mentioned.

PS: It's not "worse" it's worst, oh wise one.

Turn off the TV, open a book and educate yourself wise-ass.
 
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