Most Obnoxious Tourists? The French

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By BRUCE CRUMLEY / PARIS
Sun Jul 6, 10:45 PM ET

Remember the tightwad tourist whose baggy shorts, frequent complaining and shouted questions about why none of the locals spoke any English made the ugly American the world's Visitor From Hell? Well, it's time for Archie Bunker to move over and make way for Petulant Pierre. According to a recent international survey, the French are now considered the most obnoxious tourists from European nations, and behind only Indians and the last-place Chinese as the worst among all countries worldwide. And it's not only the rest of the world that have a gripe with the Gallic attitude: the French also finished second to last among nations ranking the popularity of their own tourists who vacation at home.

But it's the unflattering image being reflected from abroad that may give pause to the millions of French travelers now heading off to summer vacation destinations across the globe. Will that move them to improve behavior the poll characterized as impolite, prone to loud carping and inattentive to local customs? If so, that's just the start: the study also describes the voyageur fran?ais as often unwilling or unable to communicate in foreign languages, and particularly disinclined to spending money when they don't have to - including on those non compris tips. Over all, French travelers landed 19th out of 21 nations worldwide, far behind the first-place Japanese, considered most polite, quiet and tidy. Following the Japanese as most-liked tourists were the Germans, British and Canadians. Americans finished in 11th place alongside the Thais.

The survey was carried out among employees in 4,000 hotels in Germany, the U.K., Italy, France, Canada and the U.S. for the French travel website Expedia.fr. The study asked respondents to rank clients by nationality on criteria of general attitude, politeness, tendency to complain, willingness to speak local languages, interest in sampling local cuisine, readiness to spend money, generosity, cleanliness, discretion and elegance. Many replies simply conformed to long-established reputations: Italians, for example, were described as the best-dressed tourists, with the French not far behind.

American tourists fared well in some surprising ways: despite being notoriously language-limited, for example, they top the list of tourists credited with trying to speak local languages the most, with the French, Chinese, Japanese, Italians and Russians coming in last in the local language rankings. Does that mean Americans are the most polyglot tourists on the planet? Maybe not, says Expedia's marketing director for Europe, Timoth?e de Roux, who notes the poll's focus on hotel operators may explain the counterintuitive outcome.

"Most hotel staffs around the world speak English, meaning they'll communicate far more easily with native English-speaking American or British clients than with French or Italians who - it's true - are pretty bad with foreign languages," de Roux says.

De Roux explains how external factors similarly account for why Americans wind up as the biggest-spending and best-tipping tourists, while Germans and the French are among the worst penny-pinchers. "Our findings show the average French employee will get 37 vacation days spread over seven trips in 2008, versus 14 for an American - who won't even take them all," de Roux believes. "That means the French tourist will more tightly budget his or her spending over more trips, while the American spends freely on the one or two vacations taken all year."

By contrast, poll finds the French and Americans similar in being perceived as critical and rude when they travel - though for different reasons. The same local attractions that make France the world's top destination for 92 million foreign visitors each year, says de Roux, also explains why over 85% of French vacation in-country - and wind up spoiled by it when they leave. "When they go abroad, French travellers demand the same quality they'd get at home," de Roux says. "Americans, by contrast, demand the same exceptional service they are used to at home, which is why they rank as the loudest, most inclined to complain, and among the least polite."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/200807...tsthefrench;_ylt=AieIBpsz3XaLJlX4Oe_H8wZvaA8F
 

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i posted this in political yesterday...

"hasn`t anybody ever been in an elevator with a bunch of french tourists?.....didn`t it seem like it took a week to get to the next floor?......
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obnoxious....and just plain noxious...

what?...they don`t have aluminum chloride in fwance?...
 

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Worked in the security dept. at the Ritz Carlton Atlanta downtown during the '96 Olympics. Had a French guy named Phillippe working with us. He was an intern from some European hotel management school. Arrogant, skinny as a strand of angel hair pasta and stunk like roadkill but somehow ended up dating one of the hottest girls at the hotel. :shrug: No one could stand the guy except her.
 

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Its not only tourists imo. I have never been treated so rudely in all of my life as I was in Paris. I will admit that the same did not apply to my visit to southern france. I spent a few days in Nice a few years back and found a different (better ) element.

The last time I was in Paris I stayed in a 'boutique' hotel. I arrived one afternoon and asked the front desk girl which color train I needed to take to arrive at the Arc D' Triumphe (If your not familiar, the Paris 'subway' is as confusing as any I've dealt with). She acted as if she could not help because she did not understand my English or Spanish. It seemed odd given that 99% of hotel staff speak english in the modern world. So, I made my way despite starting out in the wrong direction. That night I returned and as I walked through the lobby, she was giving directions to a group of Africans in ENGLISH!!!

I waited in line behind them and approached her to explain that the on-duty manager would hear of this rudeness, at which time she indicated, in english, that she was the manager. :nutkick
 

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One of our favorite resorts in Mexico has an "American" side, and a "European" side, mainly frequented by French and French Canadians. I can't believe how flat out rude and entitled the non-canadian French were. I had a good time getting to know some of the French Canadians, they were really nice and liked to party in a friendly way.
 

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I've found the Australians to be the most obnoxious when in other countries. They are like us, only way louder and less willing to attempt the native languages. Here's the rub - the natives of whatever country think Australians are us! Why wouldn't they, right? So I see all these Americans trying to be good visitors, meanwhile the Aussies act like our stereotype and our image doesn't improve. Oh well. Kiwis, however, are generally very polite and quiet.

I guess I'm in the minority when I say I don't mind being treated rudely. Who really cares? Love NY and loved Paris. I don't visit places to be smiled at or thanked.
 

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I arrived one afternoon and asked the front desk girl which color train I needed to take to arrive at the Arc D' Triumphe (If your not familiar, the Paris 'subway' is as confusing as any I've dealt with). She acted as if she could not help because she did not understand my English or Spanish.

Can't blame her. You should have been prepared with a good map.:nono:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXVnbeWCE7M
 

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I've found the Australians to be the most obnoxious when in other countries. They are like us, only way louder and less willing to attempt the native languages. Here's the rub - the natives of whatever country think Australians are us! Why wouldn't they, right? So I see all these Americans trying to be good visitors, meanwhile the Aussies act like our stereotype and our image doesn't improve.


This has been confirmed many times by every friend I have known that lived in Australia or traveled there extensively. They have the same superior attitude that Europeans often have about their country, but none of the class and panache to really pull it off.
 

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Canadians have always been my favorite people to meet while travelling.
 

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This has been confirmed many times by every friend I have known that lived in Australia or traveled there extensively. They have the same superior attitude that Europeans often have about their country, but none of the class and panache to really pull it off.

Interesting about the Aussies being bores. Only time I've run into them while traveling was in Belize a few years back. There were 7 of them who had come to dive( like we had) and the whole week we were there we dove, drank and gambled with them and had a great time....:D

Agree about the French in Paris, at least to a small degree. Higher-end restaurants were the worst in my several trips to Paris over the years; rude and indifferent waiters--they are lucky their tips are included in the VAT.
But out in the various neighborhoods of the city we encountered many friendly, helpful people that ignored our horrible French and helped us get where we where going. Disagree about the Paris Metro, Cie, never had a problem navigating it.

I've had some of the worst experiences with Germans while traveling; many of my friends report just the opposite..:shrug:

Just goes to prove people are people wherever you are; some are real a-holes, but most aren't....
 

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Went to Puerto Rico a couple years back. Rented a car and covered the entire island. Small and large towns. Jungles, country, and San Juan. Never been treated better. There are of course some very very bad areas but I'd go back in a heart beat.

Now (some of) the PR's in Chicago. That's a totally different animal. :scared
 

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This has been confirmed many times by every friend I have known that lived in Australia or traveled there extensively. They have the same superior attitude that Europeans often have about their country, but none of the class and panache to really pull it off.

i don`t know,im...mr christo has shown flashes of "panache" when going on one of his "the west is the devil" elitist, self hating rants...


i think he`s extremely "panache- :help: ey".......:SIB
 

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Just goes to prove people are people wherever you are; some are real a-holes, but most aren't....

That's pretty much what it boils down to.

The rest is very anecdotal and suffers from one's own experiences which typically represent a really small sample size.... but fun.
 

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Interesting about the Aussies being bores. Only time I've run into them while traveling was in Belize a few years back. There were 7 of them who had come to dive( like we had) and the whole week we were there we dove, drank and gambled with them and had a great time....:D.

don't get me wrong - i have a great time with them too. I've just noticed that they get away with worse behavior than us and people in host countries end up assuming they are Americans.
 

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i don`t know,im...mr christo has shown flashes of "panache" when going on one of his "the west is the devil" elitist, self hating rants...


i think he`s extremely "panache- :help: ey".......:SIB

MC is Tazmanian. While that may seem Australian, it really isn't. They are probably more like Kiwis ...but I'm sure they consider themselves to be niether.;)
 
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