war with russisa and iran soon
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i agree..now multiply this times 10...say in taiwan or your beloved south korea.......
what would you have said if we`d actually drawn a line in the sand?...
and where exactly should we start drawing that line?...
looks like we drew it at the ukraine and the rest of the old russian satellites...
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There is no line. We have no leverage over there. None. Are you kidding me?
You tell me what 'drawn a line in the sand' means, and i'll answer. Tell me what you think we should do? Tell me what we CAN do.
I assume this is a criticism of the Bush response? No? There WAS no response for 3 days after the Russians invaded. He was watching basketball in China and it took him a while to see what Dick wanted to do.
You want to talk about a hypothetical war that will likely never happen. South Korea? Taiwan?
You think the Russians are scared of us right now?
Please. 'Draw a line in the sand.' :mj07:
Are you even kidding?
looks like we`re gonna offer ukraine and georgia(in the near future) nato membership...to go along with poland and lithuania...
and you know what the nato pact says...you attack one,you attack all...
thats what i call a line in the sand...
Ukraine and Georgia(closer to happening) were and are nowhere near having NATO membership. NATO is as useless and antiquated as the UN, but I digress.
But ok, let's go with that.
So, let's say Georgia, for instance, becomes a member of NATO. The same thing happens that happened a couple of weeks ago.
Then what?
That's what I was asking.
What you have us do?
then either we honor our agreement to our ally,or learn russian....
cause we`ll lose any repect we have .....and others will follow the lead of the soviets...
sorry...i enjoy our discussions...but,i`m getting into it with stw...later..
I'm sure you've seen that Russia really doesn't give a shit about any 'line in the sand.'
They've threatened to militarily destroy any of our 'defensive' missile sites 500 miles from their border posted in Poland.
The point is, is that these 'defense systems' are totally ridiculous.
'Protect Europe from Iranian missiles?' They can't even reach Western Europe.
And why would they (Iran) do that anyways? Even if they could. Makes no sense at all.
I think gw's forgetting that NATO has alot of European pussies in it.
gw's pocketbook says no to universal healthcare, yes to keeping Georgian territorial lines.
gw's pocketbook says no to universal healthcare, yes to keeping Georgian territorial lines.
Please. That's the most ridiculous thing i've ever read here.
Learn Russian, huh?
Yes, if we don't go to war with Russia in defense of 'Georgia', we'll be speaking Russian.
WTF is wrong with you?
bobby`s got a point on bullet #1...totally agree...
the line is drawn...if russia steps over it,we find out whether europe`s changed one iota since ww2...
universal healthcare...single payer system(the gov`t),will be an utter disaster....
you heard it here...
We're not doing shit to Russia, militarily, no matter what line is crossed. And of course nobody else in Europe is either.
You heard it here.
guess we`ll find out soon enough if the gov`t does healthcare better than the private sector....
maybe one of our canadian friends can let us know how well they like they`re national healthcare.....
maybe they like it...:shrug:
but they don`t have our problems...
"you heard it here" was in reference to healthcare...
i think you may be right about europe....or bobby is....
so,we`ll know whether nato reamains intact or not....
lemme ask you...
if obama`s elected and russia says we`re taking all of georgia,the balkans,ukraine and maybe poland,too.....what do you think he`d do?....
what would YOU like him to do?
Nah, never agreed with the 'universal' health care crap.
I just disagree with ignorant people that think we actually 'scare' anybody' anymore.
The jingoistic bravado is cute, but the reality is different.
Yes, let's fight Russia over Georgia.
i`ll help you out...
obama already said he`d ask for the u.n. to pass a resolution....
only,he forgot that russia has veto power at the u.n....
lol
obama already said he`d ask for the u.n. to pass a resolution....
only,he forgot that russia has veto power at the u.n....
lol
Russia isn't going to take Georgia, Balkans, Ukraine, and maybe Poland. ...You heard it here.
Insane hypothetical. As if they are chomping the bit to do so, but just need to wait until Obama is president. Please stop being such a lunatic.
i hope you`re right,smurph.....
good discussion.....
and i appreciate everyone letting me try and get a response from stw without having to get sidetracked...
we all beat one another up pretty good in here...and we all get over it and move on.......
but,i`ve got a real burr in my saddle over this guy...bad f-cking vibes....
g`night guys...:toast:
good discussion.....
and i appreciate everyone letting me try and get a response from stw without having to get sidetracked...
we all beat one another up pretty good in here...and we all get over it and move on.......
but,i`ve got a real burr in my saddle over this guy...bad f-cking vibes....
g`night guys...:toast:
I think I asked you before about your frantic looney situations, that you brought up.
I guess you don't wanna answer. I understand.
If they actually go into those 'states', i'll be happy to give you an answer, if I can. No matter who is in 'power.'
And what do you mean, 'if Obama's elected?'
They've already gone into Georgia and last time I checked, Obama hasn't been elected.
We sent Rice, Cheney, (MS. McCain-lol) and assorted scattered diplomats to the region(Georgia only) since it happened.
Where are we at now?
Yeah, exactly. The same.
And YOU are worried about totally hypothetical situations about Russia invading 3 other entities and how somebody who hasn't even been elected president would react?
