New Orleans evac. question

[Kramer]

Our government will spend a TRILLION $$$ on a
worthless effort in a worthless POS area but 2day
we got citizens of this country in need and WGAF


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[UGA12]

I am sure they were thinking about that when they started building the city in the early 1700's:shrug:

By this logic people shouldnt stop using Tobbaco we should just spend more money trying to stop it from giving you cancer:shrug:

 

[dunclock]

By this logic people shouldnt stop using Tobbaco we should just spend more money trying to stop it from giving you cancer:shrug:

think we started doing that in the 1700's too:mj07:

 

[RAYMOND]

Just saw where the children?s hospital has 90 children in such critical states that it can not move them and have decided to ride it out with doctors and nurses who volunteered to stay.

BTW you can call out anyone you want for the lack of flood control and the amount of money spent. The fact of the matter is that when you have a city below sea level all the money in the world will never stop Mother Nature if she wants to flood it.

BTW x2 I missed all the bitching when the Iowa cities were being flooded. Course I also didn?t hear their people blaming their government. Seems they understand if you live by a river it is going to flood from time to time. Novel idea huh:shrug:

NOT GOOD AT ALL

 

[The Judge]

So DTB, UGA, etc....what do you guys propose we should do, just bury the city?

There are some that subscribe to this idea but the reality of it is that the city could not simply be abandoned. It would have to be completely dismantled which is not really a viable option. It is a shame that this historic city has continued to sink below seas level but there is nothing that can be done other than to attempt to protect it in times like these. This will never be popular with everyone but there really is no other choice but to continue to regroup and rebuild until the levee system can be built in an acceptable manner.

God speed to all in the path of this storm.

 

[Kramer]

There are some that subscribe to this idea but the reality of it is that the city could not simply be abandoned. It would have to be completely dismantled which is not really a viable option. It is a shame that this historic city has continued to sink below seas level but there is nothing that can be done other than to attempt to protect it in times like these. This will never be popular with everyone but there really is no other choice but to continue to regroup and rebuild until the levee system can be built in an acceptable manner.

God speed to all in the path of this storm.

Exactly, :SIB

 

[UGA12]

So DTB, UGA, etc....what do you guys propose we should do, just bury the city?

I could write paragraph after paragraph about personal responsabilty and common sense, but instead I will take the bail them out approach so to not get shouted down. I did a quick google search to try to get an idea for the nubers involved and here is what I found. Our government has spent close to 150 billion dollars on N.O. and surrounding area's post katrina with the vast makority being spent on N.O.. Take that money and divide it up between those residents in N.O. and it comes to roughly 500,000 per resident. Lets say the numbers are off a bit so to be safe lets cut the number in half and give each citizen of N.O. 250,000 in order to relocate. Anyone moving into the city after this would do so with the understanding that they are doing so at their own risk and would not be bailed out by the government.

 

[Agent 0659]

I could write paragraph after paragraph about personal responsabilty and common sense, but instead I will take the bail them out approach so to not get shouted down. I did a quick google search to try to get an idea for the nubers involved and here is what I found. Our government has spent close to 150 billion dollars on N.O. and surrounding area's post katrina with the vast makority being spent on N.O.. Take that money and divide it up between those residents in N.O. and it comes to roughly 500,000 per resident. Lets say the numbers are off a bit so to be safe lets cut the number in half and give each citizen of N.O. 250,000 in order to relocate. Anyone moving into the city after this would do so with the understanding that they are doing so at their own risk and would not be bailed out by the government.

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Do you REALLY think it's this simple to just shut down a major American city?:shrug:

Gimme a fkin break man.

Here's your $250,000 have a nice life!

 

[kosar]

I could write paragraph after paragraph about personal responsabilty and common sense, but instead I will take the bail them out approach so to not get shouted down. I did a quick google search to try to get an idea for the nubers involved and here is what I found. Our government has spent close to 150 billion dollars on N.O. and surrounding area's post katrina with the vast makority being spent on N.O.. Take that money and divide it up between those residents in N.O. and it comes to roughly 500,000 per resident. Lets say the numbers are off a bit so to be safe lets cut the number in half and give each citizen of N.O. 250,000 in order to relocate. Anyone moving into the city after this would do so with the understanding that they are doing so at their own risk and would not be bailed out by the government.

Link please, about the federal government spending 150 billion in southern Louisiana and how this money was spent.

 

[Agent 0659]

And wtf do we do with this empty city after we kick everyone out?:mj07:

 

[dunclock]

And wtf do we do with this empty city after we kick everyone out?:mj07:

Enclose it and make it the biggest prison in the world:shrug:

:0corn

 

[dunclock]

and I am totally kidding, love New Orleans to visit and my best wishes to all those in sites of this storm!

 

[homedog]

New Orleans has gone from a great place to a shithole over the last 10 years. The government there ran out many businesses and good people. Morial, Nagan, etc. Sad story.

 

[UGA12]

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Do you REALLY think it's this simple to just shut down a major American city?:shrug:

Gimme a fkin break man.

Here's your $250,000 have a nice life!

But yet you and your kind think it is just this simple to build mother nature proof levee's and protect and rescue all these "responsible" individuals living in the place.

 

[UGA12]

Link please, about the federal government spending 150 billion in southern Louisiana and how this money was spent.

Feel free to dig for how the money is spent, but here is a link from pbs stating 126 billion to N.O.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weather/july-dec08/afterkatrina_08-20.html

 

[kosar]

Feel free to dig for how the money is spent, but here is a link from pbs stating 126 billion to N.O.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/weather/july-dec08/afterkatrina_08-20.html

A bit different than what you put out there, don't you think?


'JIM AMOSS: Well, that sounds a lot rosier than is actually the case. Not to dispute the overall figure, but it refers to hurricane relief for both Katrina and Rita. It covers Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, I think even in Alabama, and possibly parts of Florida.

And, moreover, it also includes huge amounts of money for debris removal, a necessary thing, but not something that really brings the recovery along in a tangible way. And it also includes flood insurance money, which people pay for in the form of premiums.

So the actual amount that reaches a city like New Orleans is a good bit smaller. It's still real dollars. You know, $14.7 billion to shore up the levees in New Orleans is not peanuts. And $7 billion or so money for housing recovery in New Orleans is also a substantial sum.'

 

[Chadman]

Seems like with everything we elect to spend money on in our country - and especially out of it - $14.7 billion to shore up levees to protect citizens does not seem like a crazy idea to me. Hell, make it $20 billion, and make them VERY safe...surely we could get Halliburton on the job and throw a LOT of money at it, couldn't we?

While we're on the subject, it's probably time to spend some money repairing that bridge to nowhere...gotta keep those folks safe and motoring.

 

[UGA12]

A bit different that what you put out there, don't you think?


'JIM AMOSS: Well, that sounds a lot rosier than is actually the case. Not to dispute the overall figure, but it refers to hurricane relief for both Katrina and Rita. It covers Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, I think even in Alabama, and possibly parts of Florida.

And, moreover, it also includes huge amounts of money for debris removal, a necessary thing, but not something that really brings the recovery along in a tangible way. And it also includes flood insurance money, which people pay for in the form of premiums.

So the actual amount that reaches a city like New Orleans is a good bit smaller. It's still real dollars. You know, $14.7 billion to shore up the levees in New Orleans is not peanuts. And $7 billion or so money for housing recovery in New Orleans is also a substantial sum.'

This was not the site I saw earlier, but I will be happy to recant the close to 150 billion statement and replace it with 126 billion stated in this article. Again I want argue how the money is spent because no one is as wastful and incompetent as the government.

 

[kosar]

This was not the site I saw earlier, but I will be happy to recant the close to 150 billion statement and replace it with 126 billion stated in this article. Again I want argue how the money is spent because no one is as wastful and incompetent as the government.

I simply clicked on your link. I certainly wasn't trying to be argumentative.

It mentioned 21 billion to NO. Not 150 billion. Not 126 Billion.

21 Billion is 2 weeks in Iraq, just for your edification.

 

[UGA12]

Seems like with everything we elect to spend money on in our country - and especially out of it - $14.7 billion to shore up levees to protect citizens does not seem like a crazy idea to me. Hell, make it $20 billion, and make them VERY safe...surely we could get Halliburton on the job and throw a LOT of money at it, couldn't we?

While we're on the subject, it's probably time to spend some money repairing that bridge to nowhere...gotta keep those folks safe and motoring.

Why stop there. Build 50ft levee's from Minnisota to the gulf so we can make sure the miss. never floods.