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Rothschild: Staff fine despite Big Z's 'dead arm', Harden pushback




Pitching coach Larry Rothschild handled Sunday's pregame session with the media.

That's usually a sign of trouble because it means there's an issue with one of Rothschild's charges.

So it was Sunday as erstwhile ace Carlos Zambrano missed his scheduled start because of a "dead arm" or a "tired arm." The Cubs say Zambrano will pitch Tuesday against the Astros at Wrigley Field.

There were other developments, too, with Rich Harden getting pushed back to the St. Louis series, which begins Sept. 9 at Busch Stadium. But Rothschild said the overall health of his staff is fine and that these moves were made with the long term in mind.

"I would hope that what we're doing today puts us in good shape," Rothschild said. "That's the purpose of it. Again, we're looking at this over the long haul, for the rest of the season and what's the best way for us to have an opportunity to win the most games, and this does it."

For the second straight August, Zambrano had a terrible month. He was 1-1 with a 7.43 ERA. A closer look at the numbers reveals more trouble. In 26â?" innings this August, Zambrano gave up 31 hits while walking 15 and striking out 18. That adds up to an alarmingly high WHIP (walks plus hits per 1 inning pitched) of 1.72. Zambrano's WHIP for the season is 1.30.

The problem, according to Rothschild, is a tired right arm, one that has logged at least 200 innings in each of the last five seasons.

Zambrano played "long toss" Sunday morning on the outfield grass before shortening up to pitching distance and then throwing about 10 pitches from the bullpen mound. He declined to comment afterward, telling reporters he'd talk today. Zambrano was on the disabled list in late June and early July because of a strained right shoulder.

"He's not in any pain at all," Rothschild said. "He feels good. He's gone through this every year for the last four or five years at a point in time where his arm feels a little heavy, tired. I think everybody goes through that. I think it's a little bit of a dead-arm period. He has felt a lot better the last couple days."

The Cubs started lefty Sean Marshall on Sunday. They'll go with Jason Marquis in today's series opener with Houston followed by Zambrano and Ryan Dempster.

The Cubs have an off-day Thursday, so that gives everybody an extra day.

"We're going to work around that and do the best we can to get guys extra rest, but right now, it's all about winning games, and we're trying to juggle the two and make sure it gives us the chance to win the most games."

Harden last pitched Friday against the Phillies, so he'll get at least 11 days between starts.

"We knew coming in he's a guy who hasn't pitched much in the last couple years," Rothschild said, noting Harden's history of shoulder problems with Oakland. "We're going to have to watch him. You can see that his velocity was down a little bit the other day. He needs some extra days right now. This way, we can really back him off and get him a good rest for the rest of the season, hopefully to get him ready to pitch the rest of the season."
 

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Good stuff again, IE.

Incredibly, Harden and Sabathia appear to be the best arms in the NL presently.
I would love to see a game #1 duel between the two if Cubs/Brews meet next month.
Spectacular.

I believe that Rich is fine.
Just being over-cautious.
They can afford to, right now, and it may benefit them come playoffs.
Cubs for the Series at +405 is very tempting.
Bosox the only serious threat, IMO.
Angels with a weak schedule and their complacency will spill-over in the post-season; pitching staff is totally overrated and currently, I think, they're poised to face Boston in the opener.

Better stop.
I could go on.
Can't wait for postseason.
 
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Odd that they decide to push back Harden right now also. They must know something or are doing this cuz of his history. I haven't noticed or heard of anything indicating a tired arm situation. Very Cub-like if they let Mil crawl right up their ass and make this interesting. I think the Cubs have had only one bad stretch prior to this one.
 

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The Goat Strikes Again

The Goat Strikes Again

Cubs drop 4th in row, but Zambrano's status is biggest concern

September 3, 2008

BY GORDON WITTENMYER gwittenmyer@suntimes.com

What is it about the Cubs and September?

Just when they appeared to be a matter of minutes from clinching a second straight postseason berth for the first time in 100 years, the rest of their season flashed before their eyes Tuesday night when Opening Day starter Carlos Zambrano left the game with arm soreness.


With only 23 games left, any injury to the $91.5 million horse of the rotation throws the rest of his season and postseason into doubt -- and takes a significant amount of luster off one of the best five-month starts in franchise history.

''That's the biggest news of the night,'' left fielder Alfonso Soriano said after the Cubs went on to lose for the fourth straight time, 9-7 in 11 innings to the Houston Astros. ''I hope everything is OK with his shoulder because of how important he is to this team.''

Zambrano pitched five downhill innings before telling pitching coach Larry Rothschild ''he wasn't feeling well,'' manager Lou Piniella said. He left the dugout with the trainer and is to be examined by team orthopedist Stephen Gryzlo today, Piniella said.

In the immediate aftermath of the news and another lost game, Piniella was in no mood to describe the obvious -- how big a blow this is at this point in the season.

''If he can pitch, he can pitch,'' Piniella said. ''If he can't, we'll put [Sean] Marshall in the rotation and go from there.''

Zambrano's value already was tested in June when shoulder soreness put him on the disabled list for two weeks. After surviving and finding ways to win through injuries to other players, the Cubs had their worst stretch of the season during the first full turn through the rotation without Zambrano.

It's no coincidence that was the only other time this season they lost four in a row.

''Did anybody think this thing was going to be real easy?'' Piniella said. ''You didn't hear that from me all year. We're in a stretch here where things aren't going our way, and we've just got to keep battling and keep our confidence up.''

Pitching two days after a scratched start and coming off the worst August of his career, Zambrano made a powerful first-inning statement Tuesday with a 96 mph strikeout of the second batter he faced, Ty Wigginton.

But after the first, he immediately surrendered both leads he was given, was laboring by the fifth, walked as many as he struck out and needed 86 pitches to get through five innings.

An uncertain Zambrano puts a lot of the focus and burden of the Cubs' big plans for the next six or seven weeks on the shoulders of 15-game winner Ryan Dempster --who starts tonight --and July acquisition Rich Harden, who is being skipped a full turn in the rotation because of his own injury history.

Harden already has pitched more innings than any season since 2004, his first full year in the big leagues, and hasn't missed a turn for the Cubs. But before Tuesday's game, a cryptic pregame response from Piniella during a media session prompted a scramble to find out if Harden was indeed healthy.

Asked again why Harden was being skipped a full turn this time around, Piniella said, ''He needed the time. Obviously, if he could pitch, he'd be in the rotation.''

He needed it? Does that mean he asked for it?

''He needed it,'' Piniella said. ''Let's leave it at that.''

Harden repeated what he said the last few days: No pain. And no big deal.

''Didn't we talk about this yesterday?'' he said.

Yes. And there's still 23 more games to go.

ASTROS 9, CUBS 7
 

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Rotation gyration

With the rotation juggled to give Carlos Zambrano and Rich Harden extra rest, Piniella said the starters for this weekend's Cincinnati series will be Ted Lilly, Jason Marquis and Zambrano.

After a day off Monday, Ryan Dempster is scheduled to open a three-game series Tuesday in St. Louis, with Harden going Wednesday or Thursday, Piniella said.




Gaudin not ready

Chad Gaudin, a key part of the bullpen for six weeks after being acquired with Harden from Oakland in July, is likely to remain sidelined with lower back issues until Friday's opener in Cincinnati, Piniella said.

Gaudin hasn't pitched since last Friday. General manager Jim Hendry said the injury isn't considered serious and that Gaudin could have pitched if desperately needed.
 

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Zambrano went to the Doc's office and was scheduled for an MRI. Got an exam and left without getting the MRI.:shrug: No answers from the mgr. He wants the media to go to headcase and ask him. Nobody has talked to the team doctor or the doc that was suppose to give the MRI.:shrug:

They will possibly get the MRI tomorrow (if it's ok with Z)

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the goat strikes again
 
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