If this tape leaks.. Obama loses

DerrickTulips

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Guy has so many far far left friends and just denounces them like they are nothing. Then you have the media more worried about Palin's clothes :mj07:

Oh well, I was leaning towards O, but he doesnt answer the tough questions, hell when he gets asked them, he cancels the interview
 

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Guy has so many far far left friends and just denounces them like they are nothing. Then you have the media more worried about Palin's clothes :mj07:

Oh well, I was leaning towards O, but he doesnt answer the tough questions, hell when he gets asked them, he cancels the interview

Exactly, the Liberal media has an agenda.
 

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Unbelievable!Oh...by the way..Khalidi JUST happens to be another "guy" in Obama's neighborhood. Hmmm...Ayers, Farrakhan, Khalidi...all "just guys who happen to be in Obama's neighborhood". That's some fucking neighborhood, isn't it?

The overtly biased liberal press is not only in the tank for Obama they're actually working for him. Bastards.

Well...the polls are tightening according to the latest tracking numbers. Maybe...just maybe America is waking up to who Obama really is. God I hope so.
 

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If there was nothing on this tape, Obama would give the LA times permission to release them.
 

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So Obama knows someone that doesnt agree with his view on Isreal.Whos the bad guy here anyway.

Tipical America scared responses that add up to nothing.What does this guys views have on obama.Your telling me some Americans dont think the same way??

Take the blinders off people.
 

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So Obama knows someone that doesnt agree with his view on Isreal.Whos the bad guy here anyway.

Tipical America scared responses that add up to nothing.What does this guys views have on obama.Your telling me some Americans dont think the same way??

Take the blinders off people.

The fact is he endorsed and gave speeches with terrorist and people who are anti Israel.
 

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Exactly, the Liberal media has an agenda.

Sounds like the Middle Eastern media does as well...

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: October 25, 2008
John McCain isn?t boasting about a new endorsement, one of the very, very few he has received from overseas. It came a few days ago:

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?Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election,? read a commentary on a password-protected Islamist Web site that is closely linked to Al Qaeda and often disseminates the group?s propaganda.

The endorsement left the McCain campaign sputtering, and noting helplessly that Hamas appears to prefer Barack Obama. Al Qaeda?s apparent enthusiasm for Mr. McCain is manifestly not reciprocated.

?The transcendent challenge of our time [is] the threat of radical Islamic terrorism,? Senator McCain said in a major foreign policy speech this year, adding, ?Any president who does not regard this threat as transcending all others does not deserve to sit in the White House.?

That?s a widespread conservative belief. Mitt Romney compared the threat of militant Islam to that from Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Some conservative groups even marked ?Islamofascism Awareness Week? earlier this month.

Yet the endorsement of Mr. McCain by a Qaeda-affiliated Web site isn?t a surprise to security specialists. Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism director, and Joseph Nye, the former chairman of the National Intelligence Council, have both suggested that Al Qaeda prefers Mr. McCain and might even try to use terror attacks in the coming days to tip the election to him.

?From their perspective, a continuation of Bush policies is best for recruiting,? said Professor Nye, adding that Mr. McCain is far more likely to continue those policies.

An American president who keeps troops in Iraq indefinitely, fulminates about Islamic terrorism, inclines toward military solutions and antagonizes other nations is an excellent recruiting tool. In contrast, an African-American president with a Muslim grandfather and a penchant for building bridges rather than blowing them up would give Al Qaeda recruiters fits.

During the cold war, the American ideological fear of communism led us to mistake every muddle-headed leftist for a Soviet pawn. Our myopia helped lead to catastrophe in Vietnam.

In the same way today, an exaggerated fear of ?Islamofascism? elides a complex reality and leads us to overreact and damage our own interests. Perhaps the best example is one of the least-known failures in Bush administration foreign policy: Somalia.

Today, Somalia is the world?s greatest humanitarian disaster, worse even than Darfur or Congo. The crisis has complex roots, and Somali warlords bear primary blame. But Bush administration paranoia about Islamic radicals contributed to the disaster.

Somalia has been in chaos for many years, but in 2006 an umbrella movement called the Islamic Courts Union seemed close to uniting the country. The movement included both moderates and extremists, but it constituted the best hope for putting Somalia together again. Somalis were ecstatic at the prospect of having a functional government again.

Bush administration officials, however, were aghast at the rise of an Islamist movement that they feared would be uncooperative in the war on terror. So they gave Ethiopia, a longtime rival in the region, the green light to invade, and Somalia?s best hope for peace collapsed.

?A movement that looked as if it might end this long national nightmare was derailed, in part because of American and Ethiopian actions,? said Ken Menkhaus, a Somalia expert at Davidson College. As a result, Islamic militancy and anti-Americanism have surged, partly because Somalis blame Washington for the brutality of the Ethiopian occupiers.

?There?s a level of anti-Americanism in Somalia today like nothing I?ve seen over the last 20 years,? Professor Menkhaus said. ?Somalis are furious with us for backing the Ethiopian intervention and occupation, provoking this huge humanitarian crisis.?

Patrick Duplat, an expert on Somalia at Refugees International, the Washington-based advocacy group, says that during his last visit to Somalia, earlier this year, a local mosque was calling for jihad against America ? something he had never heard when he lived peacefully in Somalia during the rise of the Islamic Courts Union.

?The situation has dramatically taken a turn for the worse,? he said. ?The U.S. chose a very confrontational route early on. Who knows what would have happened if the U.S. had reached out to moderates? But that might have averted the disaster we?re in today.?

The greatest catastrophe is the one endured by ordinary Somalis who now must watch their children starve. But America?s own strategic interests have also been gravely damaged.

The only winner has been Islamic militancy. That?s probably the core reason why Al Qaeda militants prefer a McCain presidency: four more years of blindness to nuance in the Muslim world would be a tragedy for Americans and virtually everyone else, but a boon for radical groups trying to recruit suicide bombers.
 

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Like I said in the other thread, you folks trashing Barry-O for this are aware of the fact that a McCain led International Republican Institute gave close to a half million in grant dollars to this guy's organization.

You do know that, right?

The guy has the same goal as the current sitting president of the US and thats a palestinian state.

You talk about liberal media squelching the story, but how about your propaganda outfits not even connecting the dots and showcasing his ties to McCain.

Of course, doing so would be admitting that this guy is not a bad man.....but the whole point is to somehow conflate B.O. as a terrorist.

How effing ridiculous. Cant wait till this election nonsense is over and all these half truths about everyone can stop.

I am now returning back to the gambling forums where I belong.
 

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The fact is he endorsed and gave speeches with terrorist and people who are anti Israel.

Was it a fact he endorsed terrorists??Thats what I mean by typical America running scared.Has Khamini(or whatever the name he is)committed a crime here.

It is widely known that there views on Isreal are different,and Obama did not support the PLO.
Ask me,I dont dislike Isreal,but Im sick of being there big brother.

Does that make me a terrorist.Typical 11th hour GOP reaching for anything to get a advantage.S-M-E-A-R!
 

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yeah I "get" it... you idiots think Israel is the holy land of gods chosen people, and they can do no wrong, and to criticize it in any way is wrong... welll heres a fucking NEWSFLASH.... Israel has slaughtered a shitload of innocent palestinians, and the US supports a palestinian state, so if you don't like it, move to israel and put a frisbee on your head and become a settler and actually kill someone yourself instead of mouthing off. who cares anyway? obama - SCOREBOARD - see ya wouldn't want to be ya
 

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Again, what is the story here? The L.A. Times presented this story, and ran the story about it in their newspaper. It would not have BEEN a story if they hadn't reported on it. Are you guys too blind (or worse) to realize this, or did you not really read this nor think about what it said?

Amazing, if you think about it. There would have been no story without the Times. They bring it forward and publicize the situation. And now they are accused of an agenda and hiding the story they brought forth.

You guys are so misguided, it's unbelievable. One good quote from this story, that applies:

"This is a story that we reported on six months ago, so any suggestion that we're suppressing the tape is absurd -- we're the ones that brought the existence of the tape to light," Sullivan said.

Carry on. A few straws left to pick up, I guess.
 

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Can you define anti-Israel?

If someone doesnt blindly 100% support any & everything concerning Israel are they consider an anti-Israel?

Does that make some an anti-semite?

Well I think it's comical that he goes to a synagogue yesterday and gives these speeches and rallys, hoping to earn the Jewish vote. Yet for 20 years he sat and listened to rev. wright, got endorsed by Ferricohn, and other left wing radicals.

I never said he was an anti semite. I am Jewish, so obviously I support Israel. You have the same people that are anti Israel that are anti America.. thus I think they should remain strong allies.
 
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