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Have a question for both(and other) parties.

If you threw away your preference to one side ,and took a look at the way things stand.
Would not Obama be the odvious vote?

I know people are gonna question this theory,but are the Democrats the right choice ,cause of the state of current events.Are they due so to speak.

I read a article in local paper,where a middle school tooK a mock vote were Obama came out on top(no surprise in massachusetts).

One of the students said, that the way things are dictated the way he voted.
The smartest thing ive read,including me and this site.

It just made sense!!
 

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Good idea Rusty but sadly you CANNOT ask to take away the parties or race when speaking to most on tis site, I dont think that its most of these REPUBLICANS think McCain is the correct vote for America but actually I think they just wont vote for Obama because he may be the first, to be honest if McCain ran a campaign where he never spoke or neither side had to talk to anyone and no quotes were printed, I was voting McCain, BUT he started speaking and he is an ignorant and bullheaded guy along with his total fuck up in picking Palin and I had to go the other way, I have no allegence to EITHER party and would love for an independant win but thats a longshot. So once I got "in to it" Obama just seemed eliquent as well as educated versus the old I can do it because.......being a POW isnt a reason to be president to me, serving your country and being of military ranks isnt a reason to run the country........my question remains this.... McCAIN STATED HE COULD HAVE BIN LADEN WITHIN 3 MONTHS OF TAKING OFFICE, WILL HE SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS WITH OBAMA IF HE BECOMES PRESIDENT? AS WELL AS WHY HASNTHE SHARED HIS THOUGHTS WITH THE CURRENT ADMINASTRATION TO HELP GET OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS OUT OF THE HELL THEY LIVED IN FOR THE LAST 7-8 YEARS, THIS TO ME PROVES HE OS FULL OF SHIT AND IS ONLY INTERESTED IN HIMSELF BECOMING PRESIDENT, TO THINK IF HE DID GIVE US THE WAY TO KILL OR CAPTURE BIN LADEN, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD OF VOTED HIM IN OFFICE EASILY...BUT HE CAN ONLY HOLD IT OVER OUR HEADS FOR US TO BELIEVE OR NOT BELIEVE
 

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Good idea Rusty but sadly you CANNOT ask to take away the parties or race when speaking to most on tis site, I dont think that its most of these REPUBLICANS think McCain is the correct vote for America but actually I think they just wont vote for Obama because he may be the first, to be honest if McCain ran a campaign where he never spoke or neither side had to talk to anyone and no quotes were printed, I was voting McCain, BUT he started speaking and he is an ignorant and bullheaded guy along with his total fuck up in picking Palin and I had to go the other way, I have no allegence to EITHER party and would love for an independant win but thats a longshot. So once I got "in to it" Obama just seemed eliquent as well as educated versus the old I can do it because.......being a POW isnt a reason to be president to me, serving your country and being of military ranks isnt a reason to run the country........my question remains this.... McCAIN STATED HE COULD HAVE BIN LADEN WITHIN 3 MONTHS OF TAKING OFFICE, WILL HE SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS WITH OBAMA IF HE BECOMES PRESIDENT? AS WELL AS WHY HASNTHE SHARED HIS THOUGHTS WITH THE CURRENT ADMINASTRATION TO HELP GET OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS OUT OF THE HELL THEY LIVED IN FOR THE LAST 7-8 YEARS, THIS TO ME PROVES HE OS FULL OF SHIT AND IS ONLY INTERESTED IN HIMSELF BECOMING PRESIDENT, TO THINK IF HE DID GIVE US THE WAY TO KILL OR CAPTURE BIN LADEN, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD OF VOTED HIM IN OFFICE EASILY...BUT HE CAN ONLY HOLD IT OVER OUR HEADS FOR US TO BELIEVE OR NOT BELIEVE

Yes agreed,also lets face it.His color plays into everything also.Which is a shame.Even so ,if he wins and yes,I think he will he will beat the odds.

Im voting for him cause I think hes the wise choice.I could care less of color or nationality.
People have tryed to take him down cause of race,ties to people and groups,etc.... and if he wins it will be a major acomplishment that in my mind is long overdue.
 

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.my question remains this.... McCAIN STATED HE COULD HAVE BIN LADEN WITHIN 3 MONTHS OF TAKING OFFICE, WILL HE SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS WITH OBAMA IF HE BECOMES PRESIDENT? AS WELL AS WHY HASNTHE SHARED HIS THOUGHTS WITH THE CURRENT ADMINASTRATION
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Pretty much a continued stream of lies and fabrications by this candidate.
 

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Pretty much a continued stream of lies and fabrications by this candidate.

I do understand that and I was just pointing out 1 of the things that has turned me off, I havent voted since I was 18...shameful as it is, but I am not afraid to speak the truth....now that this election will be the most important one to date in my lifetime I felt the need and urge to be involved, I HATE POLITICS AS I STATED WHEN I FIST STEPPED FOOT IN THIS FORUM, but not to vote this year is not to care about my children. McCain has no clue of whats really needed by the people of America and only is interested in WAR, how can you run a campaign on being a fucking POW? Hint to Juhn McCain......the real war hereos died in Nam and never came home!!! You were one of the lucky ones!!!!
 

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Palin's prank call from fake French president
GOP vice presidential pick takes comedian's call, talks about Bruni, Cheney

Palin 'Punk'd' by Montreal DJ
O'Donnell: Palin's staff 'a disaster'


MONTREAL - Sarah Palin unwittingly took a prank call Saturday from a Canadian comedian posing as French President Nicolas Sarkozy and telling her she would make a good president someday.

"Maybe in eight years," replies a laughing Palin.

The Republican vice presidential nominee discusses politics, the perils of hunting with Vice President Dick Cheney, and Sarkozy's "beautiful wife," in a recording of the call released Saturday and set to air Monday on a Quebec radio station.

Palin campaign spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt confirmed she had received the prank call.

"Governor Palin was mildly amused to learn that she had joined the ranks of heads of state, including President Sarkozy and other celebrities, in being targeted by these pranksters. C'est la vie," she said.

The call was made by a well-known Montreal comedy duo, Marc-Antoine Audette and Sebastien Trudel. Known as the Masked Avengers, the two are notorious for prank calls to celebrities and heads of state.

Hints to the joke

Audette posing as Sarkozy speaks in an exaggerated French accent and drops ample hints that the conversation is a joke. But Palin seemingly does not pick up on them.

He tells Palin one of his favorite pastimes is hunting, also a passion of the 44-year-old Alaska governor.

"I just love killing those animals. Mmm, mmm, take away life, that is so fun," the fake Sarkozy says.

He proposes they go hunting together by helicopter, something he says he has never done.

"Well, I think we could have a lot of fun together while we're getting work done," Palin counters. "We can kill two birds with one stone that way."

The comedian then jokes that they shouldn't bring Cheney along on the hunt, referring to the 2006 incident in which the vice-president shot and injured a friend while hunting quail.

"I'll be a careful shot," responds Palin.

'I can see Belgium'
Playing off Palin's much-mocked comment in an early television interview that she had insights into foreign policy because "you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska," the caller tells her: "You know we have a lot in common also, because except from my house I can see Belgium."

O'Donnell: Palin's staff 'a disaster'
Nov. 1: MSNBC political analyst Lawrence O'Donnell says Sarah Palin handled herself relatively well during a prank call today, but that her staff have let her down again and again.
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She replies: "Well, see, we're right next door to different countries that we all need to be working with, yes."

When Audette refers to Canadian singer Steph Carse as Canada's prime minister, Palin replies: "Well, he's doing fine and yeah, when you come into a position underestimated it gives you an opportunity to prove the pundits and the critics wrong. You work that much harder." Canada's prime minister is Stephen Harper.

Palin praises Sarkozy throughout the call and also mentions his wife Carla Bruni, a model-turned-songwriter.

"You know, I look forward to working with you and getting to meet you personally and your beautiful wife," Palin says. "Oh my goodness, you've added a lot of energy to your country with that beautiful family of yours."

'Lipstick on a Pig'
The Sarkozy impersonator tells Palin his wife is "so hot in bed" and then informs her that Bruni has written a song for her about Joe the Plumber entitled "Du rouge a levres sur une cochonne" ? which translates as "Lipstick on a Pig."

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama derided his Republican challenger John McCain's call for change in Washington as "lipstick on a pig," days after Palin made a lipstick joke at the Republican convention. The McCain-Palin campaign then released an ad implying Obama was calling Palin a pig with that remark.

The caller asks Palin if Joe the Plumber is her husband and adds: "We have the equivalent of Joe the Plumber in France. It's called Marcel, the guy with bread under his armpit."

He also tells the Alaska governor that he loved the "documentary" made about her and referred to a pornographic film with a Palin look-alike made by Hustler founder Larry Flynt.

She answers tentatively, "Ohh, good, thank you, yes."

The callers then reveal the prank and identify themselves and their radio station.

"Ohhh, have we been pranked?" Palin asks before handing the phone to an aide who ends the call.

Obama's campaign spokesman Robert Gibbs, commenting on the prank, said: "I'm glad we check out our calls before we hand the phone to Barack Obama."
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Then we have the clueless sidekick of McCain.

It sure seems to me like Palin should have picked

up on the fact this was a prank call long before she did.

I guess she was star struck, dumb, and mesmerized.

Just what we need in a blink away from her being President:scared
 

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Have a question for both(and other) parties.

If you threw away your preference to one side ,and took a look at the way things stand.
Would not Obama be the odvious vote?

!!

rusty...i don`t know you....and all due respect intended,but,the premise needs some serious work....

i guess you don`t get the fact that the country is basically split right down the middle...and that obama probably lost the popular vote in the primaries to hillary and pulled out the nomination due to some more democratic shenanigans in the ridiculous caucuses(that should be banned,btw)........

here... watch this...maybe you`ll snap out of it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxReTKWXxNg&eurl=
 

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Palin's prank call from fake French president
GOP vice presidential pick takes comedian's call, talks about Bruni, Cheney

Palin 'Punk'd' by Montreal DJ
O'Donnell: Palin's staff 'a disaster'


MONTREAL - Sarah Palin unwittingly took a prank call Saturday from a Canadian comedian posing as French President Nicolas Sarkozy and telling her she would make a good president someday.

"Maybe in eight years," replies a laughing Palin.

The Republican vice presidential nominee discusses politics, the perils of hunting with Vice President Dick Cheney, and Sarkozy's "beautiful wife," in a recording of the call released Saturday and set to air Monday on a Quebec radio station.

Palin campaign spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt confirmed she had received the prank call.

"Governor Palin was mildly amused to learn that she had joined the ranks of heads of state, including President Sarkozy and other celebrities, in being targeted by these pranksters. C'est la vie," she said.

The call was made by a well-known Montreal comedy duo, Marc-Antoine Audette and Sebastien Trudel. Known as the Masked Avengers, the two are notorious for prank calls to celebrities and heads of state.

Hints to the joke

Audette posing as Sarkozy speaks in an exaggerated French accent and drops ample hints that the conversation is a joke. But Palin seemingly does not pick up on them.

He tells Palin one of his favorite pastimes is hunting, also a passion of the 44-year-old Alaska governor.

"I just love killing those animals. Mmm, mmm, take away life, that is so fun," the fake Sarkozy says.

He proposes they go hunting together by helicopter, something he says he has never done.

"Well, I think we could have a lot of fun together while we're getting work done," Palin counters. "We can kill two birds with one stone that way."

The comedian then jokes that they shouldn't bring Cheney along on the hunt, referring to the 2006 incident in which the vice-president shot and injured a friend while hunting quail.

"I'll be a careful shot," responds Palin.

'I can see Belgium'
Playing off Palin's much-mocked comment in an early television interview that she had insights into foreign policy because "you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska," the caller tells her: "You know we have a lot in common also, because except from my house I can see Belgium."

O'Donnell: Palin's staff 'a disaster'
Nov. 1: MSNBC political analyst Lawrence O'Donnell says Sarah Palin handled herself relatively well during a prank call today, but that her staff have let her down again and again.
MSNBC

She replies: "Well, see, we're right next door to different countries that we all need to be working with, yes."

When Audette refers to Canadian singer Steph Carse as Canada's prime minister, Palin replies: "Well, he's doing fine and yeah, when you come into a position underestimated it gives you an opportunity to prove the pundits and the critics wrong. You work that much harder." Canada's prime minister is Stephen Harper.

Palin praises Sarkozy throughout the call and also mentions his wife Carla Bruni, a model-turned-songwriter.

"You know, I look forward to working with you and getting to meet you personally and your beautiful wife," Palin says. "Oh my goodness, you've added a lot of energy to your country with that beautiful family of yours."

'Lipstick on a Pig'
The Sarkozy impersonator tells Palin his wife is "so hot in bed" and then informs her that Bruni has written a song for her about Joe the Plumber entitled "Du rouge a levres sur une cochonne" ? which translates as "Lipstick on a Pig."

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama derided his Republican challenger John McCain's call for change in Washington as "lipstick on a pig," days after Palin made a lipstick joke at the Republican convention. The McCain-Palin campaign then released an ad implying Obama was calling Palin a pig with that remark.

The caller asks Palin if Joe the Plumber is her husband and adds: "We have the equivalent of Joe the Plumber in France. It's called Marcel, the guy with bread under his armpit."

He also tells the Alaska governor that he loved the "documentary" made about her and referred to a pornographic film with a Palin look-alike made by Hustler founder Larry Flynt.

She answers tentatively, "Ohh, good, thank you, yes."

The callers then reveal the prank and identify themselves and their radio station.

"Ohhh, have we been pranked?" Palin asks before handing the phone to an aide who ends the call.

Obama's campaign spokesman Robert Gibbs, commenting on the prank, said: "I'm glad we check out our calls before we hand the phone to Barack Obama."
.........................................................

Then we have the clueless sidekick of McCain.

It sure seems to me like Palin should have picked

up on the fact this was a prank call long before she did.

I guess she was star struck, dumb, and mesmerized.

Just what we need in a blink away from her being President:scared

well the republicans will say she was playing along, amazing how goofy this chick is and the people surrounding her
 

rusty

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rusty...i don`t know you....and all due respect intended,but,the premise needs some serious work....

i guess you don`t get the fact that the country is basically split right down the middle...and that obama probably lost the popular vote in the primaries to hillary and pulled out the nomination due to some more democratic shenanigans in the ridiculous caucuses(that should be banned,btw)........

here... watch this...maybe you`ll snap out of it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxReTKWXxNg&eurl=

This is exactly what ive been saying if youve seen some of my responses in this forum.

I refuse to be a paraniod american.
Am I concerned with the way thing are?Bear !@#$ in the woods.However im not falling for the hes the next Damien.Hes the best candidate to fix this mess,no colors ,no terrorists, no butts!:142smilie :shrug:
 

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Have a question for both(and other) parties.

If you threw away your preference to one side ,and took a look at the way things stand.
Would not Obama be the odvious vote?

I know people are gonna question this theory,but are the Democrats the right choice ,cause of the state of current events.Are they due so to speak.

I read a article in local paper,where a middle school tooK a mock vote were Obama came out on top(no surprise in massachusetts).

One of the students said, that the way things are dictated the way he voted.
The smartest thing ive read,including me and this site.

It just made sense!!

Tell us why it would be obvious--

His character?
His experience?
His qualifications?

Unless you can come up with any "obvious" reasons- I'll have to assume your only reason is "political" preference?
 

rusty

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Tell us why it would be obvious--

His character?
His experience?
His qualifications?

Unless you can come up with any "obvious" reasons- I'll have to assume your only reason is "political" preference?

I guess what im trying to say is are the dems due to hold the big seat in office,cause the one thats been in it for 8years dictates to vote the other party.(right or wrong. )

Dont know ,people at my local church(prodastant).
Thought I was nuts that I was even considering Obama.There good guys but there voting based on religion.There calling Obama a anti-semetic,a marxist,a baby killer,etc.

This will not chance my vote,but this is gettn sick.They said he didnt favor Isreal,but supported Muslims and the PLO(surprised they didnt say al-queata)sorry for the spelling.,Cant wait til its over,the voting part anyway.

These people,I thought were really out there with there views.
 
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