Jobless rate YTD over 10 mill highest in 25 years...

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Another wonderful achievement of Bushy & his wonderful & prosperous 8 years. Or is this Clinton's and/or Obama's fault?? :rolleyes:


Jobless ranks hit 10 million, most in a quarter-century.

Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer
Saturday November 8, 2008, 7:07 am EST

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The nation's jobless ranks zoomed past 10 million last month, the most in a quarter-century, as piles of pink slips shut factory gates and office doors to 240,000 more Americans with the holidays nearing. Politicians and economists agreed on a painful bottom line: It's only going to get worse.


Sunny Yang, left, a masters degree student from Shanghai and employed banker in New York City, speaks with World Bank representative Roberto Amorosino about opportunities for unemployed friends of his during a career fair at Columbia Univeristy Friday, Nov. 7, 2008 in New York. The U.S. unemployment rate bolted to a 14-year high of 6.5 percent in October as another 240,000 jobs were cut, far worse than economists expected and stark proof the economy is deteriorating at an alarmingly rapid pace. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)

The unemployment rate soared to a 14-year high of 6.5 percent, the government said Friday, up from 6.1 percent just a month earlier. And there was more grim news from U.S. automakers: Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Corp., American giants struggling to survive, each reported big losses and figured to be announcing even more job cuts before long.

Regulators, meanwhile, shut down Houston-based Franklin Bank and Security Pacific Bank in Los Angeles on Friday, bringing the number of failures of federally insured banks this year to 19.

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. was appointed receiver of Franklin Bank, which had $5.1 billion in assets and $3.7 billion in deposits as of Sept. 30, and of Security Pacific Bank, with $561.1 million in assets and $450.1 million in deposits as of Oct. 17.

Barack Obama, in his first news conference as president-elect, said the nation was facing the economic challenge of a lifetime but expressed confidence he could deal with it.

"Immediately after I become president, I'm going to confront this economic crisis head on by taking all necessary steps to ease the credit crisis, help hardworking families, and restore growth and prosperity," he said after meeting with economic advisers in Chicago. "I'm confident a new president can have an enormous impact."

Wall Street revived somewhat after two days of big losses. The Dow Jones industrials rose 248 points.

Still, the Labor Department's unemployment report provided stark evidence that the economy's health was deteriorating at an alarmingly rapid pace. The jobless rate was 4.8 percent just one year ago.

About 10.1 million people were unemployed in October, the most since the fall of 1983. More people have jobs now, since the population has grown, but it's still a staggering jobless figure. With employers slashing jobs every month so far this year, some 1.2 million positions have disappeared, over half in the past three months alone.

Like Obama, President Bush expressed confidence that things would get better: "Our economy has overcome great challenges before, and we can be confident that it will do so again."

But economists were much less upbeat than politicians.

"There is no light at the end of the tunnel, and the outlook is pitch black," said Richard Yamarone, economist at Argus Research.

And Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist at the Economic Outlook Group, said the report "depicts an economy still in free fall and without a safety net anywhere in sight."

All the economy's woes -- a housing collapse, mounting foreclosures, hard-to-get credit and financial market upheaval -- will confront Obama when he assumes office in January. Unemployment is expected to keep rising during his first year in office, while record budget deficits will crimp his domestic agenda.

October's jobless rate was the highest since March 1994 and now has surpassed the 6.3 percent 2003 high after the most recent recession. The government also said job losses were worse than first reported for the preceding two months, 284,000 rather than 159,000 in September and 127,000 rather than 73,000 in August.

Many economists believe the unemployment rate will climb to 8 percent or 8.5 percent by the end of next year before slowly drifting downward. Some think unemployment could even hit 10 or 11 percent -- if an auto company should fail.

In any case, the rate is likely to move higher even if the economy is on somewhat stronger footing by the middle of next year as some hope. That's because companies won't be inclined to ramp up hiring until they feel certain that a recovery has staying power.

Joshua Shapiro, chief economist at consulting firm MFR Inc., said another reason the unemployment rate can keep climbing -- even after a recession is over -- is because people tend to flock back to the labor market when they sense their job prospects might be better. "It takes (people) awhile to figure out, 'Hey, there's jobs out there,'" Shapiro said.

In the 1980-1982 recession -- considered the worst since the Great Depression in terms of unemployment -- the jobless rate rose as high as 10.8 percent in late 1982 just as the recession ended, before inching down.

Friday's report was worse than analysts had expected. They had been forecasting a jobless rate of 6.3 percent with payrolls falling about 200,000.

Factories, including auto makers, construction companies, especially home builders, retailers, mortgage bankers, securities firms, hotels and motels and educational services, all cut jobs. As did temporary help firms -- a barometer of future hiring. All those losses more than swamped the few gains elsewhere, including in the government, health care and in accounting and bookkeeping.

Private companies cut 263,000 jobs, the most since the country was beginning to emerge from the 2001 recession. It marked the 11th straight month of such reductions.

The grim numbers spurred calls from Democrats on Capitol Hill to provide fresh relief. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Democrats, in a lame-duck session later this month, will push to enact another economic stimulus package of around $100 billion, possibly including provisions to create jobs through big public works projects.

Obama said if the session doesn't bring passage, the measure will be his first priority as president in January.

He has called for about $175 billion in new stimulus spending, including money for roads, bridges and aid to hard-pressed states. He wants a rebate of $500 for individuals, $1,000 for families and a new $3,000 tax credit for businesses for each new job created.

Workers with jobs saw only modest wages gains in October. Average hourly earnings rose to $18.21, a 0.2 percent increase from the previous month. Over the past year, wages have grown 3.5 percent, but paychecks aren't stretching far because high food, energy and other prices have propelled overall inflation at a faster pace.

The economy has lost its footing in just a few months. It contracted at a 0.3 percent pace in the July-September quarter, signaling the onset of a likely recession. It was the worst showing since the 2001 recession, and reflected a massive pullback by consumers.

As consumers watch jobs disappear, they'll probably retrench even further, spelling more trouble. Analysts say the economy is still shrinking in the current October-December quarter and will contract further in the first quarter of next year. All that more than fulfills a classic definition of a recession: two straight quarters of contracting economic activity.

"The U.S. recession is deepening," said Michael Gregory, economist at BMO Capital Markets Economics. The final quarter of this year is getting off to a "particularly ugly" start.
 
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Any reason author failed to add illegals in equation?

Lets see 3 million coming in a year--
andl lets see if we can define liberal logic--you advocate sanctuary cities and was just putting forth your logic few months back on how we need these illegals to do jobs your base don't want to do--and now there are no jobs--
--do you ever listen to yourself--whats it going to be next month? :shrug:
 

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Any reason author failed to add illegals in equation?

Lets see 3 million coming in a year--
andl lets see if we can define liberal logic--you advocate sanctuary cities and was just putting forth your logic few months back on how we need these illegals to do jobs your base don't want to do--and now there are no jobs--
--do you ever listen to yourself--whats it going to be next month? :shrug:


The illegals do the following:

Cut Grass
Wash dishes
Flip burgers
Tar Roofs
Watch our kids while we are working higher paid jobs


Whitey and whitey's kids don't want to do that stuff anymore. The biggest beneficiaries of cheap labor are very wealthy americans. Your response to the high unemployment is nonsense.
 

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Any reason author failed to add illegals in equation?

Lets see 3 million coming in a year--
andl lets see if we can define liberal logic--you advocate sanctuary cities and was just putting forth your logic few months back on how we need these illegals to do jobs your base don't want to do--and now there are no jobs--
--do you ever listen to yourself--whats it going to be next month? :shrug:

Is Bush or the GOP responsible for one negative thing in this country?

I used to actually take your posts w/ some value, but you are to the point that its just become comical.

Bush has probably been the greatest President in this country. Close to God-like....
 

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forth your logic few months back on how we need these illegals to do jobs your base don't want to do--and now there are no jobs--
--do you ever listen to yourself--whats it going to be next month? :shrug:

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why do you say your base when its Americans

your Americans my Americans

why are you constantly divided ?

I bet it would be very difficult for you to just get on the john and take a good healthy dump at times.
 

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The illegals do the following:

Cut Grass
Wash dishes
Flip burgers
Tar Roofs
Watch our kids while we are working higher paid jobs


Whitey and whitey's kids don't want to do that stuff anymore. The biggest beneficiaries of cheap labor are very wealthy americans. Your response to the high unemployment is nonsense.


Interesting point this "whitey" has done everyone of those jobs while growing up and working my way through school. I feel it has more to do with the individual and not having any desire to succeed, a large majority of Americans are on the system and are perfectly happy to get their handout and then do nothing but complain about how bad things are. I do pretty well and I can assure that my kids will not be to good to do any of those jobs.
 

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why do you say your base when its Americans

your Americans my Americans

why are you constantly divided ?

I bet it would be very difficult for you to just get on the john and take a good healthy dump at times.


He's the same guy that posted Hitler pictures and drew a comparison to the President-elect. Someone with that type of thinking lives in absolutes -- up/down, good/evil, positive/negative, etc. He doesn't like it, so it's obviously not American to him. Must be a tough way to go through life.
 

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He's the same guy that posted Hitler pictures and drew a comparison to the President-elect. Someone with that type of thinking lives in absolutes -- up/down, good/evil, positive/negative, etc. He doesn't like it, so it's obviously not American to him. Must be a tough way to go through life.

hmm...

:yup
 

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He's the same guy that posted Hitler pictures and drew a comparison to the President-elect. Someone with that type of thinking lives in absolutes -- up/down, good/evil, positive/negative, etc. He doesn't like it, so it's obviously not American to him. Must be a tough way to go through life.


:rolleyes:
--if you have any childern at home--have them read this line from my previous post and explain to you what it means--have them read it sloooowly-please

"Wasn't comparing O to H -but was using comparison on drawing crowds."
 

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--if you have any childern at home--have them read this line from my previous post and explain to you what it means--have them read it sloooowly-please

"Wasn't comparing O to H -but was using comparison on drawing crowds."

Yeah right.:rolleyes: We aren't that dumb. Give us a break.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

...And since when is Hitler "H"?
 

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Interesting point this "whitey" has done everyone of those jobs while growing up and working my way through school. I feel it has more to do with the individual and not having any desire to succeed, a large majority of Americans are on the system and are perfectly happy to get their handout and then do nothing but complain about how bad things are. I do pretty well and I can assure that my kids will not be to good to do any of those jobs.

so true--baled hay and worked at filling station/car wash all though high school. Wasn't about what job you had--was about having a job--
--would appear from oct unemployments stats as stats of years past--some having tougher time than others finding work ;)

Employment Situation Summary
Technical information:
Household data: (202) 691-6378 USDL 08-1617
http://www.bls.gov/cps/

Establishment data: (202) 691-6555 Transmission of material in this release
http://www.bls.gov/ces/ is embargoed until 8:30 A.M. (EST),
Media contact: (202) 691-5902 Friday, November 7, 2008.


THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION: OCTOBER 2008


Nonfarm payroll employment fell by 240,000 in October, and the unemployment rate
rose from 6.1 to 6.5 percent, the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department
of Labor reported today. October's drop in payroll employment followed declines of
127,000 in August and 284,000 in September, as revised. Employment has fallen by
1.2 million in the first 10 months of 2008; over half of the decrease has occurred
in the past 3 months. In October, job losses continued in manufacturing, construc-
tion, and several service-providing industries. Health care and mining continued
to add jobs.

Unemployment (Household Survey Data)

The unemployment rate rose by 0.4 percentage point to 6.5 percent in October,
and the number of unemployed persons increased by 603,000 to 10.1 million. Over
the past 12 months, the number of unemployed persons has increased by 2.8 mil-
lion, and the unemployment rate has risen by 1.7 percentage points. (See
table A-1.)

The unemployment rates for adult men (6.3 percent), adult women (5.3 percent),
whites (5.9 percent), and Hispanics (8.8 percent) rose in October. The jobless
rates for teenagers (20.6 percent) and blacks (11.1 percent) were little changed.
The unemployment rate for Asians in October was 3.8 percent, not seasonally ad-
justed
. (See tables A-1, A-2, and A-3.)

Among the unemployed, the number of persons who lost their job and did not ex-
pect to be recalled to work rose by 615,000 to 4.4 million in October. Over the
past 12 months, the size of this group has increased by 1.7 million. (See
table A-8.)

In October, the number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or
more) rose by 249,000 to 2.3 million. The long-term unemployed accounted for
22.3 percent of total unemployment. The newly unemployed--those who were jobless
fewer than 5 weeks--increased by 212,000 to 3.1 million in October. (See
table A-9.)

Total Employment and the Labor Force (Household Survey Data)

The civilian labor force participation rate (66.1 percent) and the employment-
population ratio (61.8 percent) were little changed in October. Since a recent
high in December 2006, the employment-population ratio has declined by 1.6 per-
centage points. (See table A-1.)
 

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:rolleyes:
--if you have any childern at home--have them read this line from my previous post and explain to you what it means--have them read it sloooowly-please

"Wasn't comparing O to H -but was using comparison on drawing crowds."

Easy to say after the fact. You must be one hell of a Monday Morning QB.
 

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why do you say your base when its Americans

your Americans my Americans

why are you constantly divided ?

I bet it would be very difficult for you to just get on the john and take a good healthy dump at times.

same reason you were last 8 years--

we are of diff opinions on

winning vs surrender
terrorist rights
welfare/social programs
uncle jimmy/aunt john
socialism
taxes
global warming
pledge of alligience/anything todo with God
aclu agenda's
being responsible for your own actions or lack of

how's that for a start
 

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:rolleyes:
--if you have any childern at home--have them read this line from my previous post and explain to you what it means--have them read it sloooowly-please

"Wasn't comparing O to H -but was using comparison on drawing crowds."
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it would have been more fitting to compare Bush W to Hitler.

or maybe Cheney would have fit right in there easily. Not to crowd attraction , but to philosophy
of destruction.
 
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