Is there any chance for Mayweather-Pacman?

TontoKowalski

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I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about boxing, watched the fight last night and Mayweather's last and think these 2 need to square off. Any chance he comes outta retirement? If you had to put a % chance we see this fight someday, what would be the guesstimate?
 

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I actually think that this fight might lure Mayweather out of retirement.

Floyd already beat Hatton and Oscar and Pacman would be another big fight moneywise and Mayweather wants no part of Williams and Margarito, but now after Pacman beat up Oscar, this fight does actually make sense...

I cant give you a percentage, Pacman vs. Hatton @140 lbs looks more likely right now, but I would say there is a strong posibility!
 

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You know what? If this happens I will back PacMan. He would handle Money May. If Mayweather needs the money he might do it but otherwise he's not the type that is going to risk a loss. And this would be a major risk to his undefeated ledger.
 

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Not sure who I would pick between Floyd and the Pac-Man.

But I know Hatton can't handle what I saw Saturday night. No way. No how.

Pac-Man gobbles him up.

Anyone would do better than Oscar though. That was pathetic.

This was much more what Oscar didn't have than what Manny did. Freddie Roach called the fight dead on. They guy can't pull the trigger anymore.

and Oscar knew it himself all along. The fucker just hid it from all us until the bell rang.
 

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i think most are over estimatiing what Pac did Saturday night. Not to take anything away from Pac but to me this was more Oscar and a pathetic meltdown which isn't that uncommon when it comes to him. this ranks up there with the dumbest wagers i ever made. It is one thing when i loaded up on Mayweather against Hatton where i had a thinking fighter and its another taking this jackass Delahoya who thinks he invented boxing.
 

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Intersting article..


Father Mayweather believes that his son ?would beat him (Manny) easy. He (Mayweather Jr.) would do to him what Manny did to Oscar, but worse.?

As a side note, Floyd Sr. assured me that his son would end his retirement next year.

?Oh he?s coming out. He?s coming next year.?




Floyd Mayweather Sr.: ?WE WILL DISMANTLE PACQUAIO.?
December 8, 2008

Oscar De La Hoya. The moniker given to him throughout his career was ?Golden Boy.?

He was touted as a 10- time world champion spanning six weight classes. He was the only American boxer to bring home the gold in the ?92 Olympics.

He set revenue records that may never be matched in the boxing world. HBO?s mouthpieces noted that athletes in major American sports don?t even make 100 million in ?36 minutes? of fighting once a year.

Such is the power, or WAS the power of the Golden Boy that everyone will now possibly wonder aloud or privately, ?was Oscar something great or was he just part of a well oiled, safely marketed product? that in the end now looks more like the bearer of pyrite instead of King Midas himself?

In an interview with Oscar?s former trainer, Floyd Mayweather Sr. I asked him to discuss Oscar?s meltdown at the hands of De La Hoya?s hand picked opponent, Manny Pacquaio.

?Joel De La Hoya, Oscar?s brother said, ?oh we got Nacho Berstein now. This is a blessing.? Well look what happened. Berstein had nothing. Berstein couldn?t tell Oscar what to do the entire night. If that?s a blessing then I?ll stop praying now.?

?Well the record now speaks for itself. They (Oscar?s trainers, Berstein and Angelo Dundee) did all this talking into their microphones for the media, but couldn?t do anything when it came down to the real thing.?

Though many people have written Oscar?s eulogy regarding his boxing career, Floyd Sr. is not quite ready to join the growing chorus for De La Hoya to hang up the gloves.

? I think Oscar could?ve pulled it off. He needed to be aggressive. He should?ve thrown flurries. The power shot would?ve come behind the flurries. That?s what was missing.?

?I have never seen Oscar hunch over in a corner the way he did that night. It shouldn?t have happened like that. There was no excuse for him to have taken that beating. Thirty-five is not that old these days in boxing. Oscar hasn?t had that much damage done to his body in the ring before this.?

Mayweather Sr. alluded to signs that the fight was lost long before Oscar stepped into the ring this past Saturday night.

?I can tell you is that it wasn?t all Oscar?s fault. I know personally of two things that went on in Oscar?s training camp. There was a lot of stuff that went on in camp that was counter productive to Oscar?s training. I can?t pull the covers off the people that were in the camp that told me these things, but just know that the trainers never really came up with a strategy. They had nothing and you could see that during the fight.?

?His corner never told him how to chop his man (Pacquaio) down. It was so obvious that even Ray Charles could see that.?

This sentiment was echoed by Eric Brown (Pacquaio?s assistant trainer) as well when I asked him to recap Manny?s sensational victory.

?I?m not sure if Oscar was a hundred percent. It appeared as though he (Oscar) went overboard in trying to maintain his lower weight.

?He may have gone too long in camp in coming down in weight that his stomach shrunk and he wasn?t able to eat properly anymore because he was too drained. I believe he was over trained.?

Brown also thought that Oscar let his ego get in the way and that De La Hoya wasn?t facing just Manny that night, but Freddie Roach, Manny?s trainer, and Bob Arum, head boss of Top Rank, as well.

?Oscar, in my opinion, took this fight to rub Bob Arum and Freddie?s noses in a possible victory of Pac, but I think it overwhelmed him in the end. He made such a big deal about having all of these special trainers and I think it took its toll.?

Like Floyd Sr., Brown shares the same thoughts on De La Hoya?s Dream Team of trainers and advisors, ? he was supposed to have all those experts in his corner and you would think they would?ve known how to properly condition and train their fighter, but you saw what happened. They didn?t have answers and their fighter was drained.?

With what appears to be the end of De La Hoya?s career, the boxing world has moved on to other fights that may come to fruition. One of those fights is a promising clash between Ricky ?The Hit Man? Hatton and the Mexican Assassin, Manny Pacquaio.

Both trainers expressed their interest in this fight-taking place.

?If they want Rick, they?re going to get Rick and it won?t end pretty for them.? Floyd Sr. stated empathically.

?I love this fight for Rick. We will dismantle Pacquaio. Guaranteed.?

Brown lobbied for the fight saying, ? This fight on a business level makes a lot of sense. Both fighters have a major following and this thing would sell out quick.?

?Ricky would bring it and Manny would too. Both guys are fighters and this would definitely be an all action fight.?

Finally, both coaches commented briefly on a return of former pound for pound king, the undefeated Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Brown said that Floyd Jr. being a gifted pugilist would ?be the only man that would present Manny with a serious challenge and it would be a difficult fight for Pac? in light of ?Mayweather?s brilliance in speed, intelligence, and defense.?

Father Mayweather believes that his son ?would beat him (Manny) easy. He (Mayweather Jr.) would do to him what Manny did to Oscar, but worse.?

As a side note, Floyd Sr. assured me that his son would end his retirement next year.

?Oh he?s coming out. He?s coming next year.?

Lastly, Brown and Mayweather did find another topic to agree on, aside from their chafing remarks towards Berstein and Dundee, they equally deem WBA welter weight champion, Antonio Margarito as the one that will have his hand raised on January 24,2009 when he conquers former world champion, Shane Mosley.


Source: John Martinez
 
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