obama defends his choice of evangelical minister

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again, buddy takes some potshots, edits them, then runs and fails to discuss. Nothing new here.

I don't think that is a fair assessment. It takes time to get ahold of you pastor to find out what you think. Give Buddy time and he'll be told what to post.

Remember, this is the same pastor that convinced a solid Democrat to vote Republican. The guy is good. Give Buddy time to find him.
 

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Heads up:

Deuteronomy 18:20


But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.?




Apparently, judging others (me, or Rick Warren for that matter) can be hazardous to your health.

gmroz,

Back atcha' with your "heads up"...

I am not a prophet.
 

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I posted this, "I don't think Rick Warren has been anything but above reproach." Warren is not my minister, and anything I hear about him is from the news or his books. I've yet to hear anything about him being in bed with boys, smoking crack with hookers, etc. I'm sure he has his failings as do we all.

SixFive,

If a persons failings are eating too many bon-bons, that's one thing. But if he's a preacher and he's preaching false doctrine, that is quite another. Need some clarification? Read your bible and you'll eventually learn OR if you have the inclination, find a good bible teaching church and you'll learn much faster. Rick Warren is just another charlatan like Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, Benny Hinn, etal. Not all of Christiandom are buffoons like these jokers.
 

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SixFive,

If a persons failings are eating too many bon-bons, that's one thing. But if he's a preacher and he's preaching false doctrine, that is quite another. Need some clarification? Read your bible and you'll eventually learn OR if you have the inclination, find a good bible teaching church and you'll learn much faster. Rick Warren is just another charlatan like Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, Benny Hinn, etal. Not all of Christiandom are buffoons like these jokers.

He is nothing like them. He has never asked for money. Benny Hinn? How can you even remotely make a comparison like that?
 

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SixFive,

If a persons failings are eating too many bon-bons, that's one thing. But if he's a preacher and he's preaching false doctrine, that is quite another. Need some clarification? Read your bible and you'll eventually learn OR if you have the inclination, find a good bible teaching church and you'll learn much faster. Rick Warren is just another charlatan like Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, Benny Hinn, etal. Not all of Christiandom are buffoons like these jokers.

add: The only thing you have accurate here is the Bible does put a high degree of responsibility with teachers of the Word. If a teacher is preaching a false doctrine, it is very bad for him. Now, read on.

read my Bible and I'll eventually learn?? What a clown you are. What would you like me to learn?? Here's your chance to teach me, Buddy, and this is what you are called to do (if you read your Bible). If you want to post your beliefs, I'll gladly post mine. You NEVER post anything of substance. Please list for me some false doctrines Warren teaches. Lay them out for me (I don't listen to Warren; apparently you do and know?). Let's have a discussion here instead of talking in riddles. If he teaches so many false doctrines, it should be mighty easy for you to lay them out. I'm serious. :director: let's hear them, buddy. Quit dodging substance. No youtube videos please unless they are direct and to the point and from a legit source. go to the last one you posted http://www.allitteleaven.com/ and you'll see that's just a trash search engine with porn headers. Let's go, buddy.

buddy, what about Wright and Pfleger?? Where was your outrage?? :director: oh, it wasn't to be found because they are Democrat supporters. Let's talk about abortion buddy.

I'm not here to say my church is better than your church, but you have pissed me off with your claims and assumptions that I don't know my Bible and what I believe. Nobody has to tell me; I have studied, and I know. If Warren is the bad guy, who would you rather have? What has he done so wrong, and what heresy does he teach.
 
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He is nothing like them. He has never asked for money. Benny Hinn? How can you even remotely make a comparison like that?

I never said anything about Warren asking for money... If you're able to dupe a large enough congregation and your numbers increase weekly, there's no need to make a public plea for money. Sometimes the failings are in areas other than finances. And one needs to be discerning in being able to identify the deception...sometimes they're obvious, other times subtle. Even you should know that.
 

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I never said anything about Warren asking for money... If you're able to dupe a large enough congregation and your numbers increase weekly, there's no need to make a public plea for money. Sometimes the failings are in areas other than finances. And one needs to be discerning in being able to identify the deception...sometimes they're obvious, other times subtle. Even you should know that.

Dupe? WTF? What the hell is he teaching? Satanic worship? You are just not making any sense here.

I'm not even a follower, but I can see Warren for the classy and honest guy that he is. He is what is right with organized religion ...and that is a rare find.
 

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Good move by Obama. Clearly he is trying to help the Dems get some of that retarded segment of our society on his side. Maybe he can work on that cat Joel Olsteen and his supporters next.
 

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an infidel and Buddy both on same page!

an infidel and Buddy both on same page!

I was amused to read that the well-known atheist Christopher Hitchens agrees with Buddy's main conclusions--that Rick Warren is:

"a tree-shaking huckster and publicity seeker", coming from "the wonderful world of the American evangelical community, and one wishes them all the best of luck in their energetic fundraising and their happy-clappy Sunday 'Churchianity' mega-feel-good fiestas. However, do we want these weirdos and creeps officiating in any capacity at the inauguration of the next president of the United States?"

Tho I imagine that on the details, Hitchens reasons for disliking Warren are rather different than the ones Buddy probably would cite (if he ever gets around to citations).

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As for why the Gay-Marriage community is upset:

Prop-8 was a bloody nose that has really bummed-out the movement. The Rich Warren choice is just a reminders of that.

At least that is how I see it. Gay people assumed Obama would be some gay-rights messiah... just like I'm sure the anti-war movement thought he would be the anti-war messiah... and so on and on.

I think each group, who for someone reason, blindly thought Obama was going to "change everything" is going to suffer their moments of dissapointment.

This is the inevitable result of a year of hero-worship by some parts of the Democrat party.
 

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Edited: My thoughts on Pastor Rick Warren may be better left unsaid.


I'm gonna start my own personal crusade Buddy and I could use a man of your talents. I think Drew Barrymore is Satan and the apocalypse is upon us. Was forced to see "Fever Pitch" and was subliminally coerced to go and and kill an elderly neighbor lady just by looking at Drew's face.

anything in the Good Book on this?
 
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