Since when do teams get 5 downs?

[Flipper317]

1-10-TEN 12 (9:58) 28-C.Johnson up the middle to TEN 19 for 7 yards (55-T.Suggs, 52-R.Lewis). PENALTY on TEN-76-D.Stewart, Unnecessary Roughness, 9 yards, enforced at TEN 19.
Referee clearly stated down counted
1-12-TEN 10 (9:52) 28-C.Johnson right end pushed ob at TEN 20 for 10 yards (57-B.Scott).
2-2-TEN 20 (9:25) 25-L.White left guard to TEN 20 for no gain (52-R.Lewis, 57-B.Scott).
3-2-TEN 20 (8:41) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 12-J.Gage to TEN 30 for 10 yards (31-F.Washington).

Should have been 4th down?

 

[Mags]

1-10-TEN 12 (9:58) 28-C.Johnson up the middle to TEN 19 for 7 yards (55-T.Suggs, 52-R.Lewis). PENALTY on TEN-76-D.Stewart, Unnecessary Roughness, 9 yards, enforced at TEN 19.
Referee clearly stated down counted
1-12-TEN 10 (9:52) 28-C.Johnson right end pushed ob at TEN 20 for 10 yards (57-B.Scott).
2-2-TEN 20 (9:25) 25-L.White left guard to TEN 20 for no gain (52-R.Lewis, 57-B.Scott).
3-2-TEN 20 (8:41) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 12-J.Gage to TEN 30 for 10 yards (31-F.Washington).

Should have been 4th down?

I agree - I went back and forth on Tivo to check this. It's this whole drive going on now. How can nobody have caught this?

NOBODY ELSE NOTICED THIS? WHAT THE HELL IS BALT'S COACHING STAFF DOING THAT NOBODY SAW THIS???

 

[gjn23]

then he clearly stated the penalty occured during the play

 

[Kramer]

:stfu:


I GOT THE TITS




:director: :fit01:

 

[Mags]

then he clearly stated the penalty occured during the play

No - that couldn't have been the case. Let's say you are right and Baltimore accepted the penalty, that occured. Then, since the previous play began at the 12, the penalty would have been 6 yards (half the distance to the goal) and TN would have been 1st down on the 6 yard line.

But since the penalty was after the previous play ended (which it was and the ref said so), the play counted, which took them to the 19, half the distance was marked off, and the next play occured at the 10 yard line.

TN got an extra down - and nobody was smart enough to see it (except a couple of us at MJ's)

 

[thadchr]

I noticed this too. I was yelling too much about the call (seemed to me like the guy was clearly trying to injure Johnson...ref shoulda been pulling guys off already), so I ended up just assuming the call had been changed to offsetting personal fouls. Will be very interesting to see what comes of this??:shrug:

 

[gjn23]

the penalty occurred down the field during the play, tenn did not get an extra down

if anything they spotted the ball at the wrong yard line which became irrelevant when tenn got a first down anyway

 

[Mags]

the penalty occurred down the field during the play, tenn did not get an extra down

if anything they spotted the ball at the wrong yard line which became irrelevant when tenn got a first down anyway

Huh? I don't understand what you are trying to say.

The first down play started at the 12 yard line. It was a 7 yard run by Johnson to the 19 yard line. Then the penalty occurred. There are only 2 options:

1. The penalty occured after the play was completed (which the ref said). Then it would be half the distance from the 19 yard line, and would be placed at the 9.5 (10) yard line - and it woudl be 2nd down. This is where the placed the ball, but did not change the down mistakenly.

2. If the penalty was during the play, then the play would not have counted, Balt accepts the penalty, and the ball moves back to the 6 yard line and it is still 1st down.

The refs screwed up and didn't change the down, since the ball was placed at the 10 yard line. Unbelievable that none of the announcers or coaches noticed.

 

[Flipper317]

Just went back and listened to the referee's call.

After the play was over, personal foul, forearm to the head, play counted then he said play counted.

While thye were showing the replay you can here in the background the referee changing it to during the play.

Sorry my mistake

 

[gjn23]

Just went back and listened to the referee's call.

After the play was over, personal foul, forearm to the head, play counted then he said 2nd down.

then he said it occured during the play, which it did if you watch the play

again, they may have spotted the ball wrong but it was still 1st down

 

[Flipper317]

just listened to it over again and edited my post

 

[gjn23]

just listened to it over again and edited my post

some of you guys want to believe everything is a fix or conspiracy

i'm assuming they marked it from the spot of the foul, half the distance to the goal, which is why it was back to the `10

 

[Mags]

some of you guys want to believe everything is a fix or conspiracy

i'm assuming they marked it from the spot of the foul, half the distance to the goal, which is why it was back to the `10

Never said conpiracy or fix - said it was an error that I thought should have been caught.

They don't mark an unnessary roughness penalty from the spot of the foul. That only occurs on a holding play down the field.

I guess the refs just spotted the ball 3 yards ahead of where they should have. This too had an impact on the game, as the Titans would have had 3rd and 6 instead of 3rd and 3.

Oh well, at least some of this is making some sense now...

 

[Flipper317]

some of you guys want to believe everything is a fix or conspiracy

i'm assuming they marked it from the spot of the foul, half the distance to the goal, which is why it was back to the `10

I don't think I stated anywhere in my post that it was a conspiracy or fix. I corrected myself and apologized for my mistake. They took the camera off the referee after his original call and that's when he corrects it to a during the play penalty.

:toast:

 

[Gags]

Ref also called that a hold during a punt return was pushed back from the end of the play when clearly it is a spot foul from where the hold took place. Can't believe everything thew ref says to us. :mj07: