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By Michelle Malkin ? March 16, 2009 10:05 AM

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It?s here, baby. Open your eyes. More Cincy Tea Party photos via RWNJ:

La times refuses to cover 10,000 protesting in CA--
L.A. Times: We don?t cover citizen rallies?unless we agree with them


The Los Angeles Times ignored the thousands of people who gathered in Fullerton CA on Saturday for a massive tax revolt that was just one of several demonstrations over the weekend.

however Tribune did--
<SCRIPT language=JavaScript> var requestedWidth = 0; </SCRIPT><SCRIPT language=JavaScript> if(requestedWidth < 400){ requestedWidth = 400; } </SCRIPT> KFI radio personalities, John Kobylt, center, and Ken Chiampou lead over 15,000 people in chants during their Tax Revolt 2009 rally at the Slidebar Cafe in Fullerton on March 7, 2009. John and Ken are leading a recall edffort on republican State legislators including Assemblyman Anthony Adams. (SGVN/Staff Photo





Watched several of these from all over including Iraq Friday night and have yet to see 1st person
representing "the base" --must not be any taxpayors :SIB

 

[smurphy]

I thought you didn't like protesters.:shrug:

 

[kosar]

I thought you didn't like protesters.:shrug:

And I thought all protesters were unemployed minions who had nothing better to do? :shrug:

 

[Chadman]

Way to keep the faith, Wayne, much like the "Wall Street Journal" being an objective financial document since Rupert Murdoch took over. Another look at this:

Bloggers Charge 'Tea Party' Anti-Stimulus Protests Are Corporate Front

Muriel Kane
Published: Sunday March 1, 2009

When a few hundred protesters showed up in each of some 30 or 40 cities nationwide on Friday to object to President Obama's stimulus plan, they claimed that the well-coordinated protests had arisen spontaneously in response to a tirade against mortgage bailouts, delivered just over a week earlier, on February 19, by CNBC's Rick Santelli.

Conservative columnist Michelle Malkin enthusiastically called the "Tea Party" protests "a fledgling grassroot movement" and some of the protesters even described themselves as the vanguard of a "new conservative counterculture." Those claims naturally aroused a certain amount of skepticism, since similar activities in the past have proven to be not genuine grassroots activity but so-called corporate "astroturf."

Now fresh revelations suggest that the skepticism may be well-placed. Mark Ames and Yasha Levine allege in their blog at Playboy.com that the protests were planned well in advance, coordinated by old-line anti-tax organizations, and funded by right-wing corporate interests.

"What hasn?t been reported until now is evidence linking Santelli?s 'tea party' rant with some very familiar names in the Republican rightwing machine," they write, "from PR operatives who specialize in imitation-grassroots PR campaigns (called 'astroturfing') to bigwig politicians and notorious billionaire funders. As veteran Russia reporters, both of us spent years watching the Kremlin use fake grassroots movements to influence and control the political landscape. To us, the uncanny speed and direction the movement took and the players involved in promoting it had a strangely forced quality to it. If it seemed scripted, that's because it was."

As described by Ames and Levine, Santelli's call for a "tea party" in Chicago next summer was quickly picked up by a website called ChicagoTeaParty.com and spread from there to the Drudge Report. However, the ChicagoTeaParty.com domain is not new. It was registered last summer by the producer of a right-wing radio show in Chicago and, the writers allege, is one of several tied to the anti-tax group FreedomWorks, which is among the sponsors of the current protests.

FreedomWorks is the latest incarnation of an organization formerly known as Citizens for a Sound Economy, which was founded in 1984 "to anonymously leverage corporate contributions into debates on public policy." CSE had close ties to Koch Industries and became one of the major recipients of grant money from conservative foundations and major corporations such as Exxon, Philip Morris, and General Motors.

In 2003, CSE's affiliate, the Citizens for a Strong Economy Foundation, split off and renamed itself Americans for Prosperity. (That group is also a sponsor of the current protests.) CSE itself merged the following year with Empower America -- another fake grassroots group created by Republican Party insiders to promote conservative candidates -- and formed FreedomWorks.

Posters at Democratic Underground have found that a number of anti-bailout and anti-stimulus groups are hosted by the dedicated servers of Citizens for a Sound Economy. In addition to cse.org, empoweramerica.org, and freedomworks.com, those servers also host such domains as angryrenter.com (which was registered in March 2008 to oppose bailouts for mortgage holders), destimulus.com, earmarkpledge.com, nowallstreetbailout.com, and usteaparty.com.

Any connection ChicagoTeaParty.com may have to this network is not clear, since it is not among the domains hosted on the CSE servers. However, the involvement of FreedomWorks in the protests and the appearance of the apparently related domain "usteaparty.com" suggest that those seeking the origin of the "Tea Party" protests in this area may be on the right track.

 

[Terryray]

Anatomy of a Left-Wing Smear: The Great Tea Party Conspiracy Busted

By Warner Todd Huston

March 3, 2009 - 07:08 ET

Playboy Magazine got its undies in a bundle over the nation wide Tea Party protests held last Friday that were inspired by CNBC's Rick Santelli's free market rant of February 19. As Noel Sheppard noted on March 1, the skin mag published a piece claiming that Santelli was part of a vast right-wing conspiracy to protest Obama's socialist policies.

It turns out, however, that the story has been proven false and in response Playboy has mysteriously removed the piece that first raised the question of the grand conspiracy. Happily, the facts have won over on Playboy forcing it to pull down the fallacious story. In its place, all we now get is a "We're sorry, we couldn't find the page you requested," notice.

To recap, this is what made Playboy run for its tinfoil hats:

What we discovered is that Santelli's "rant" was not at all spontaneous as his alleged fans claim, but rather it was a carefully-planned trigger for the anti-Obama campaign. In PR terms, his February 19th call for a "Chicago Tea Party" was the launch event of a carefully organized and sophisticated PR campaign, one in which Santelli served as a frontman, using the CNBC airwaves for publicity, for the some of the craziest and sleaziest rightwing oligarch clans this country has ever produced. Namely, the Koch family, the multibilllionaire owners of the largest private corporation in America, and funders of scores of rightwing thinktanks and advocacy groups, from the Cato Institute and Reason Magazine to FreedomWorks. The scion of the Koch family, Fred Koch, was a co-founder of the notorious extremist-rightwing John Birch Society.

What they "discovered" turned out to be wrong. David Bauder of the AP is reporting that Santelli had nothing to do with the various Tea Party demonstrations. In fact, Instapundit reported that some of the Tea Party efforts predated Santelli's TV rant.

Bauder reports that Santelli and CNBC requested that one Tea Party site remove Santelli's name from its pages because there was no affiliation between them. AP notes that the original site, reteaparty.com , even had a disclaimer attached declaring the fact that Santelli was not connected with the site.

Now, above I said "happily facts have won over Playboy forcing the mag to pull down the fallacious story" which is all well and good. But the problem is we now have hundreds perhaps thousands of left-wing DailyKosers and such all imagining they know the real story, the one that corresponds to the fake Playboy tale.

So, while the fake story has been scrubbed, the claim of conspiracy is still floating around like a noxious cloud befouling the air.

And, THAT, my friends, is how the left works. Scream the lie, whisper the retraction.

 

[Chadman]

Fair enough, Terry - I read something on this two weeks ago and didn't post it - it had nothing to do with Playboy, but another organization. I will try to find it, but there's no doubt these orchestrated events have to be funded by someone, or something, don't they? Will post when I can.

 

[Chadman]

Quick comment, tho, even looking at your response/retort post - the organization may not be directly tied to Santelli, but it's certainly organized and well funded - and the conservative sites are essentially saying these events are spontaneous and symptomatic of most of America - and yet we can see that they are organized and funded by a single group.

Not saying they are not worthy or even correct, but to say that they are not organized by conservative money and organizations is simply disingenous.

For some of you - that means it's not really done by a buncha Americans, it's a group that puts these things together that spends a lotta money to make them happen...

 

[Sun Tzu]

Quick comment, tho, even looking at your response/retort post - the organization may not be directly tied to Santelli, but it's certainly organized and well funded - and the conservative sites are essentially saying these events are spontaneous and symptomatic of most of America - and yet we can see that they are organized and funded by a single group.

Not saying they are not worthy or even correct, but to say that they are not organized by conservative money and organizations is simply disingenous.

For some of you - that means it's not really done by a buncha Americans, it's a group that puts these things together that spends a lotta money to make them happen...

That works for both sides and always has. Most "protests" regardless of position are never spontaneous and complete shams. I pretty much hate all protesters -reagardless of the stance or issue.

 

[Terryray]

yup, both sides do this stuff.

I remember a piece in Business Week last year about Obama main advisor David Axelrod--"The master of 'Astroturfing'"

NPR had interesting piece on a GOP operative who wrote a book on dirty tricks in elections.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

And I thought all protesters were unemployed minions who had nothing better to do? :shrug:

Flip . . . . Flop

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I thought you didn't like protesters.:shrug:

Generally I don't as most conservatives control their own destinies and have little to protest about--however this is an issue that we have no control over (death and taxes)

Hadn't really thought much about it until I saw Glen Becks show on Friday night-It was not so much about protest as most places had few signs but is was gathering of groups of people all over U.S. and Iraq on a Friday night at different establishments--and it was only the 1st coordinated affair--was so much response Fox servers went down.
Who is Glenn Beck? A new personality on Fox--a bit odd I must say--but evidently efective--
per friday night--

CABLE NEWS RACE
FRI., MARCH 13, 2009

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,185,000
FOXNEWS BECK 3,074,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,557,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,151,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,879,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,522,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,223,000
CNN KING 1,046,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,045,000
MSNBC MADDOW 954,000

--the most interesting thing is who represents the movement--

Have never seen gatherings where all looked like your normal tax paying neighbor-or more to the point--just as interesting on who you don't see.

--and why nada liberal media coverage--if it was gay day-transvestite-war-greenie-peta or any of their agenda driven gatherings they be all over it

 

[The Sponge]

And I thought all protesters were unemployed minions who had nothing better to do? :shrug:

I could add a part three to u and Smurphs questions but id rather just finish banging my head against the wall.

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

 

[smurphy]

Have never seen gatherings where all looked like your normal tax paying neighbor-or more to the point--just as interesting on who you don't see.

So when it's something that you don't like it's a protest, but when it's a bunch of "normal" people - apparently people like you it's merely a "gathering".

 

[Trench]

I could add a part three to u and Smurphs questions but id rather just finish banging my head against the wall.

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

:142smilie Thanks for the laugh Spongy.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

If you look closely, you can see me hanging out of my office window screaming at these disgusting radicals polluting my downtown "America - love it or leave it."

These anti-American suburban taxpayers need to go home, get a good nights sleep, so they can go to work in the morning. What the hell are they complaining about. They have jobs, nice cars, can afford the gas to drive downtown and park in downtown garages.

This scum of the earth crowd are pissed off cause they can't rip off the government as well as they could under republican administrations. Notice the color, dress, and mannerisms of this group of white collar criminals. All from Western hills, Montgomery, Indian Hill, Hyde Park. 100% republican and all voted for Bush.

This is the same group that elected George W. Bush, twice. Need I say more.

Eddie

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

If you look closely, you can see me hanging out of my office window screaming at these disgusting radicals polluting my downtown "America - love it or leave it."

These anti-American suburban taxpayers need to go home, get a good nights sleep, so they can go to work in the morning. What the hell are they complaining about. They have jobs, nice cars, can afford the gas to drive downtown and park in downtown garages.

This scum of the earth crowd are pissed off cause they can't rip off the government as well as they could under republican administrations. Notice the color, dress, and mannerisms of this group of white collar criminals. All from Western hills, Montgomery, Indian Hill, Hyde Park. 100% republican and all voted for Bush.

This is the same group that elected George W. Bush, twice. Need I say more.

Eddie

Yes Edward --you could point us to the area that elected Obama by bout 90% margin--need I say more---

Kinda boils down to who you want making decisions in your area--the responsible productive tax payor--or your base?
:0corn

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

So when it's something that you don't like it's a protest, but when it's a bunch of "normal" people - apparently people like you it's merely a "gathering".

Ok Smurph
You got me feeling a little bad since all these debt/taxes protests lack any members of your base--so in spirit of bi-partisanship only fair to put one up of your base protesting thier values.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6QKcARdl2w

 

[znine_7]

The rally in fullerton was strictly about the recent 52 billion dollar tax increase passed in Sactown then supported by the govenator here in cali. The bulk of the outrage is on arnold because he ran on "no taxes" and used "The John and Ken Show" as a platform after the recall of "gumby". It was the single largest tax increase in the history of the USA. Taxation across the board has been increased. I feel Cali is a microcosm of what this entire country is going towards. The state is literally ungovernable. We already had the highest sales tax, gas tax, income tax and highest business tax (next to new york) in the nation and now it's worse. People, the hard working ones with small and medium sized business's are leaving the state in droves.....leaving behind the unskilled, uneducated and the "undocumented"/illegals to fend for their own. The dems refuse to stop their spending and until very recently, the gop refused to accept tax increases. The state should split in two with a north and south. But it will never happen. It's a downward spiral here with no hope in sight. :violin:

 

[bryanz]

Yes Edward --you could point us to the area that elected Obama by bout 90% margin--need I say more---

Kinda boils down to who you want making decisions in your area--the responsible productive tax payor--or your base?
:0corn

why the doublespeak ? why don't you, just put it out there in plain english, in black & white.... Are you saying that you believe that the "AREA" that elected Obama by a 90% margin are ALL voters that are not productive or tax payers ? are you painting all of that "AREA" with the same brush ? Maybe the voters in that "AREA" don't reflect the segment that you are talking about... Not everyone in an "AREA" IS THE SAME..... VOTERS SEEM TO BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS IN ALL "AREAS".... WHY SO GUARDED ? LET THE SHIT SPEW !`

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Since media avoiding these like the plauge--I'll keep everyone up to date. New ones this week--

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