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Who would have thought--apparently O's attempt to quiet the protestors agaisnt massive debt can't even get pass from liberal A.P.

SPIN METER: Saving federal money the easy way

SPIN METER: Obama's latest budget-tightening effort hardly makes a dime's worth of difference

  • <LI class=byline>Andrew Taylor and Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writers
  • Monday April 20, 2009, 5:18 pm EDT
<!-- ./end of article hd -->WASHINGTON (AP) -- Cut a latte or two out of your annual budget and you've just done as much belt-tightening as President Barack Obama asked of his Cabinet on Monday.
<!--- Insert the sidebar information -->
<!-- Article Related Media -->The thrifty measures Obama ordered for federal agencies are the equivalent of asking a family that spends $60,000 in a year to save $6.
Obama made his push for frugality the subject of his first Cabinet meeting, ensuring it would command the capital's attention. It also set off outbursts of mental math and scribbled calculations as political friend and foe tried to figure out its impact.
The bottom line: Not much.
The president gave his Cabinet 90 days to find $100 million in savings to achieve over time.
For all the trumpeting, the effort raised questions about why Obama set the bar so low, considering that $100 million amounts to:
--Less than one-quarter of the budget increase that Congress awarded to itself.
--4 percent of the military aid the United States sends to Israel.
--Less than half the cost of one F-22 fighter plane.
--7 percent of the federal subsidy for the money-losing Amtrak passenger rail system.
--1/10,000th of the government's operating budgets for Cabinet agencies, excluding the Iraq and Afghan wars and the stimulus bill.
Obama only asked his Cabinet secretaries to identify waste in their annual operating budgets, which total a little over $1 trillion. He's leaving out war costs, the economic stimulus measure, the Wall Street bailout and benefit programs like Social Security and Medicare.
THE SPIN:
"He will challenge his Cabinet to cut a collective $100 million in the next 90 days," said a White House news release. "Agencies will be required to report back with their savings at the end of 90 days."
"I'm asking for all of them to identify at least $100 million in additional cuts to their administrative budgets," Obama told reporters afterward. "None of these things alone are going to make a difference, but cumulatively, they would make an extraordinary difference because they start setting a tone."
THE FULLER STORY:
Obama's marching orders to the Cabinet on Monday were less than meets the eye. Many of the savings he asked them to achieve are already under way and are included in the calculation.
To be sure, this is an extra effort, on top of an agency-by-agency review of programs and proposed multibillion-dollar cuts in weapons programs. But it is decidedly marginal.
"It's always a good sign when the president is talking about savings," said Marc Goldwein, policy director of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a nonpartisan group that advocates fiscal discipline.
"It's valuable as a symbol," he said, "but $100 million is just not going to cut it."
Republicans were quick to point out that borrowing costs for February's stimulus package will on average cost almost $100 million a day over the next decade.
In large measure, the examples of economizing given by the White House were of the painless, seemingly commonsensical variety. They were not the program cuts that people feel and that budget-watchers say are essential to make a meaningful difference in the exploding deficit.
Some of them will take many years to play out.
The Agriculture Department, for one, will move 1,500 employees from seven leased locations into one place in early 2011, saving $62 million over 15 years.
Some are hard to quantify.
Will buying multipurpose office equipment, such as a combined copier, printer, fax and scanner all in a single unit instead of separate units, really save the Homeland Security Department $2 million a year over five years?
Some are microscopic. The White House estimates savings of tens of thousands of dollars from freeing up warehouse space stashed with obsolete equipment that had been used by a federal entity few people have heard of, the Bureau of Information Resource Management.
And some raise eyebrows at wasteful practices of the former administration.
The White House says Homeland Security, the third largest federal department, has not been buying most of its $100 million a year in office supplies in bulk.
The administration thinks it can save $52 million over five years with bulk-buying bargains at the department.
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Can't see why they picked on this one when they had chance after his georgetown speach on cutting spending on social programs after he increased spending on same by billions.

or the mother of them them all--

"This is the era of responsibilty" :)
 

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When u sit there and don't say a peep about debt or deficits the last eight years u have no credibility on this issue. I doubt if anyone even reads ur stuff. The hypocrisy coming out of ur mouth is so sad that i would like to donate something to u and maybe u can go get urself some help with the problem.
 

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Who would have thought--apparently O's attempt to quiet the protestors agaisnt massive debt can't even get pass from liberal A.P.

SPIN METER: Saving federal money the easy way

SPIN METER: Obama's latest budget-tightening effort hardly makes a dime's worth of difference

  • <LI class=byline>Andrew Taylor and Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writers
  • Monday April 20, 2009, 5:18 pm EDT
<!-- ./end of article hd -->WASHINGTON (AP) -- Cut a latte or two out of your annual budget and you've just done as much belt-tightening as President Barack Obama asked of his Cabinet on Monday.
<!--- Insert the sidebar information -->
<!-- Article Related Media -->The thrifty measures Obama ordered for federal agencies are the equivalent of asking a family that spends $60,000 in a year to save $6.
Obama made his push for frugality the subject of his first Cabinet meeting, ensuring it would command the capital's attention. It also set off outbursts of mental math and scribbled calculations as political friend and foe tried to figure out its impact.
The bottom line: Not much.
The president gave his Cabinet 90 days to find $100 million in savings to achieve over time.
For all the trumpeting, the effort raised questions about why Obama set the bar so low, considering that $100 million amounts to:
--Less than one-quarter of the budget increase that Congress awarded to itself.
--4 percent of the military aid the United States sends to Israel.
--Less than half the cost of one F-22 fighter plane.
--7 percent of the federal subsidy for the money-losing Amtrak passenger rail system.
--1/10,000th of the government's operating budgets for Cabinet agencies, excluding the Iraq and Afghan wars and the stimulus bill.
Obama only asked his Cabinet secretaries to identify waste in their annual operating budgets, which total a little over $1 trillion. He's leaving out war costs, the economic stimulus measure, the Wall Street bailout and benefit programs like Social Security and Medicare.
THE SPIN:
"He will challenge his Cabinet to cut a collective $100 million in the next 90 days," said a White House news release. "Agencies will be required to report back with their savings at the end of 90 days."
"I'm asking for all of them to identify at least $100 million in additional cuts to their administrative budgets," Obama told reporters afterward. "None of these things alone are going to make a difference, but cumulatively, they would make an extraordinary difference because they start setting a tone."
THE FULLER STORY:
Obama's marching orders to the Cabinet on Monday were less than meets the eye. Many of the savings he asked them to achieve are already under way and are included in the calculation.
To be sure, this is an extra effort, on top of an agency-by-agency review of programs and proposed multibillion-dollar cuts in weapons programs. But it is decidedly marginal.
"It's always a good sign when the president is talking about savings," said Marc Goldwein, policy director of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a nonpartisan group that advocates fiscal discipline.
"It's valuable as a symbol," he said, "but $100 million is just not going to cut it."
Republicans were quick to point out that borrowing costs for February's stimulus package will on average cost almost $100 million a day over the next decade.
In large measure, the examples of economizing given by the White House were of the painless, seemingly commonsensical variety. They were not the program cuts that people feel and that budget-watchers say are essential to make a meaningful difference in the exploding deficit.
Some of them will take many years to play out.
The Agriculture Department, for one, will move 1,500 employees from seven leased locations into one place in early 2011, saving $62 million over 15 years.
Some are hard to quantify.
Will buying multipurpose office equipment, such as a combined copier, printer, fax and scanner all in a single unit instead of separate units, really save the Homeland Security Department $2 million a year over five years?
Some are microscopic. The White House estimates savings of tens of thousands of dollars from freeing up warehouse space stashed with obsolete equipment that had been used by a federal entity few people have heard of, the Bureau of Information Resource Management.
And some raise eyebrows at wasteful practices of the former administration.
The White House says Homeland Security, the third largest federal department, has not been buying most of its $100 million a year in office supplies in bulk.
The administration thinks it can save $52 million over five years with bulk-buying bargains at the department.
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Can't see why they picked on this one when they had chance after his georgetown speach on cutting spending on social programs after he increased spending on same by billions.

or the mother of them them all--

"This is the era of responsibilty" :)

Relax. You're gonna have a heart attack. You have almost eight more years to go.
 

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I pretty well set and basically Gumby proof TU--aside from his jacking utilties--and probable assualt with property taxes--I can dodge anything he throws as most others can--those raising a family and paying taxes better be the one worried.

I see immediately after he came out with 1 million reduction he now wants to lend IMF 100 billion--

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama on Monday proposed a $100 billion U.S. loan to the International Monetary Fund to boost the IMF's resources and urged a bigger stake in the IMF for emerging powers.

Hmm --and where does he plan on getting this money--he already has to buy our own bonds (an unprecedented occurance with extremely scarey implications) because no one else wants them.

China is buying up resources by the Billions with U'S' dollars they have--interesting way to shuck the $ a little at a time unnoticed to most--and to avert huge drop in $ as it is not a sell off but gets rid of them just the same.

I hope I'm wrong TU -but believe you will changing your tune in bout 12 months.
I've looked at it from every angle I can imagine and can't see anything but free fall of $ and massive inflation in future.
 

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Easy call inflation is coming. When it,s around 1.5%It will go up not down. Even if the Gov does nothing and we all go in our homes and hide.
 

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The call is 10% + unemployment by Aug and MASSIVE inflation due decline in $ by end of 2010.

I see where ABC is climbing on also--

ABC's Jake Tapper questioned Gibbs why the Obama administration was making a large deal over saving $100 million in his proposed budget when the administration pooh-poohed $8 billion in an appropriations bill several weeks ago.


Jake Tapper of ABC News has details and the transcript of the exchange.

Even once backers can't turn their heads on this paultry attempt especially in light of amount of pork allowed in stimulus from this no pork president :)

a few goodies from todays headlines--

Washington Times
EXCLUSIVE: Senator's husband's firm cashes in on crisis

Feinstein sought $25 billion for agency that awarded contract to spouse

By Chuck Neubauer (Contact) | Tuesday, April 21, 2009
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CBS) <!-- sphereit start-->CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson and investigative producer Laura Strickler reported this story for CBSNews.com.

Spring in Washington is "earmark season" - a busy time for Congressman John Murtha.

"That's my business," Murtha said. "I've been in it for 35 years."

As head of a powerful Defense committee, Murtha controls hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars, reports CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. And he's not shy about directing money to those who give generously to his election campaigns.

CBS News has learned that this month, Murtha is steering new earmarks toward 10 companies that recently donated to his campaign.

Murtha wants $8 million for Argon ST, a defense contractor whose CEO gave Murtha the maximum allowed by law - $2,400 by an individual. He's directing a $5 million earmark toward Advanced Acoustic Concepts, which also gave the max - $5,000 for a political action committee - to his campaign. In all, 10 recent Murtha donors are slated to receive $31 million in Murtha earmarks for 2010.
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and my personal fav--

Bringing Home the Bacon
Pennsylvania Democratic Congressman John Murtha has played a major role in keeping an airport in his district operational despite questions about the facility's usefulness. The Washington Post reports Murtha has secured at least $150 million in federal funds for the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport over the past decade.
But the airport's passenger count has fallen by more than half during that period. The airport received $800,000 dollars in stimulus funds to repave its backup runway despite just three commercial flights on weekdays all to Washington Dulles airport.
Passenger Bill Previte says: "Doesn't it seem kind of ridiculous to have a motorized carousel for the baggage claim when 15 people get off the airplane?"
But Murtha's spokesman, Matt Mazonkey, defends the funding saying: "You don't attract additional business without having the infrastructure in place to do so."
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on further spending "cuts"
--can't wait to see new foreign aid packages he said he would double--one inparticular.
 

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I pretty well set and basically Gumby proof TU--aside from his jacking utilties--and probable assualt with property taxes--I can dodge anything he throws as most others can--those raising a family and paying taxes better be the one worried.

I see immediately after he came out with 1 million reduction he now wants to lend IMF 100 billion--

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama on Monday proposed a $100 billion U.S. loan to the International Monetary Fund to boost the IMF's resources and urged a bigger stake in the IMF for emerging powers.

Hmm --and where does he plan on getting this money--he already has to buy our own bonds (an unprecedented occurance with extremely scarey implications) because no one else wants them.

China is buying up resources by the Billions with U'S' dollars they have--interesting way to shuck the $ a little at a time unnoticed to most--and to avert huge drop in $ as it is not a sell off but gets rid of them just the same.

I hope I'm wrong TU -but believe you will changing your tune in bout 12 months.
I've looked at it from every angle I can imagine and can't see anything but free fall of $ and massive inflation in future.

I don't like Obama, but he sure beats McCain from my point of view.

We're screwed anyway. I really doubt anything is getting fixed but you gotta give him a shot.
 

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Unemplyoment will be 10%. It went by that. There were many more who stopped signing up for unemplyoment last year they stopped counting. Try like they said on that honest net work you watch 11.5% now.
And what is high inflation when coming out of dflation 4% 6%? It will depend on where energy, and health care cost. And how far we get diging out of the hole from last 4 years. Dam good thing we didn,t elected Mc Cain it would be real hell. He was wrong REB. THey should have put up some else to run. The people had that down when they voted.
 

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I don't like Obama, but he sure beats McCain from my point of view.

We're screwed anyway. I really doubt anything is getting fixed but you gotta give him a shot.

TU

There are lots of things I am fine with on O's plans--but the social programs and especially the green agenda will be killers to the nth degree-- and as hard as look for hope or recovery from them--i can't find a hint of escape--just my opinion
--but I am certainly on your side in hoping like hell I am wrong.
 
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