Rep. Paul Ryan, Wisconsin (R)

Mags

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Love him...... A very fiscally strong conservative - a very bright guy.

He seems to connect well to the working class family - he hails from Janesville WI, which is a big GM town.

And he's young - only 39. He MAY have a chance in the next election (yes, presidential), as he is everything the past GOP candidates weren't.

He says he's not gonna run for presidency - but most don't believe him.

We would do well if somehow, someday, he made it to the oval office.
 

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i like him as well, have seen him a bunch of times on cnbc and he actually offers his own thoughts and doesn't just say "democrats are wrong, i'm right". i'd love to see him run for president.
 

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The other thing I really like about him, is he is definitely not a "big government" type of guy.

I had the chance to meet him a couple of times at the old company I worked at (he talked at a couple of our management meetings).

I can tell you - he is NOT for government run healthcare. I think he'd rather try to limit the areas the government could screw up.

And we all know they would/will screw up healthcare for the vast majority of Americans - to help the few who don't have insurance today (but they do have access to healthcare anyway).

The country feels like toilet water right now, just after the plunger is pushed - the water is slowing circling downward, with it inevitabling going out the drain at the bottom.

Maybe Obama can fill the public toilet with so much "junk" that he can plug it - and actually save some water... :mj07:
 

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The other thing I really like about him, is he is definitely not a "big government" type of guy.



And we all know they would/will screw up healthcare for the vast majority of Americans - to help the few who don't have insurance today (but they do have access to healthcare anyway).

No we dont all know this. The post office runs like a well oiled machine. The only programs that the gov't run that screw up, are the ones when started the Republicans do every thing they can to destroy them. Its hard to start a program for the people in ur country when u have a bunch of scumbags on the other side trying to dismantle them every chance they get. SS was a beautiful program especially for women who raised kids and the husband left and she had nowhere else to go. Then when Republicans ran up massive debt's like they always do they started tapping into it. That is why programs don't work.
 

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No we dont all know this. The post office runs like a well oiled machine. The only programs that the gov't run that screw up, are the ones when started the Republicans do every thing they can to destroy them. Its hard to start a program for the people in ur country when u have a bunch of scumbags on the other side trying to dismantle them every chance they get. SS was a beautiful program especially for women who raised kids and the husband left and she had nowhere else to go. Then when Republicans ran up massive debt's like they always do they started tapping into it. That is why programs don't work.

SS was a beautiful program especially for women who raised kids and the husband left and she had nowhere else to go.

I'll admit, I don't even know how to respond to this. It doesn't make a lot of sense. I thought Social Security was set up for people 65+. But what do I know? :mj07:
 

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RYAN is above average. Prez no. Senator Yes. WE will see how he helps with GM problems.
 

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RYAN is above average. Prez no. Senator Yes. WE will see how he helps with GM problems.

What's he supposed to do about the GM problems?

I own GM cars - they are good cars. Their biggest problem is the union - and the wages and benefits that result.

UAW heathcare benefits are some of the best in the nation, and lag what private employers have been offering in the last 20 years.

I'm not sure Ryan can have much impact requiring the UAW to reset their health plans to be consistent with what most companies offer. If he could, he'd go a LONG way to relieving some of the cost pressures GM is feeling. And could reduce the cost of GM cars, which would help sales and profitability.

GM HEALTH CARE PLAN

$0 Deductible, $250 out of pocket maximum per year, $5 prescriptions - and the GM employee gets this coverage for free - they pay nothing.

Compare that with your current coverage at your employer.

That type of coverage costs GM a lot of $$$$ - and provides no incentive for the employee to use their coverage wisely - since it is all free, they use it as much as they want.

This is a clear case where the collective bargaining system (unions) took the company down.

The UAW will have to make HUGE concessions to keep this company going. It will be interesting to see where the UAW goes with this - are they more worried about their own power, or do they care about the company itself.

Now, if GM could somehow get rid of the UAW, life would be sweet for GM.
 

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Love him...... A very fiscally strong conservative - a very bright guy.

He seems to connect well to the working class family - he hails from Janesville WI, which is a big GM town.

And he's young - only 39. He MAY have a chance in the next election (yes, presidential), as he is everything the past GOP candidates weren't.

He says he's not gonna run for presidency - but most don't believe him.

We would do well if somehow, someday, he made it to the oval office.

I agree. A very bright guy and a rising star in the GOP.

When the GOP does get its act together, it'll be because of moderates like Ryan who can bring the party back from the abyss of the extreme right.
 

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I believe he represents many GM workers. Lets see if he,s any help. So far he,s voted NO with his REB friends on all bills. Some even bringing help back here to Wis. I looking for some more indepentent thinkig. Not just talk taxes.
 

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I believe he represents many GM workers. Lets see if he,s any help. So far he,s voted NO with his REB friends on all bills. Some even bringing help back here to Wis. I looking for some more indepentent thinkig. Not just talk taxes.

Hopefully the GOP candidates learned a LOT from Arlen Spector....

The GOP folks should just run as DEMS in areas where DEMS would win... and once they are in, just say SURPISE - I am really a republican! :00hour

I still don't understand how someone voted in as a REPUBLICAN can be allowed to change to a DEM (or vice versa of course).

Aren't all the peole that voted REPUBLICAN, and got Spector in, now DISENFRANCHISED?

It's just not right - Spector should be booted out of office - and his spot vacated until the next election. If you run as a representative of a party, you should have to stay that party.

JMHO.
 

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I would never vote for him as I disagree with him on the few issues that really matter to me.

That being said... by all accounts he is a very good guy. I lived in his district for a couple years, and he is supported overwhelmingly there (admittedly one of the state's Republican strongholds). In my days as a writer, I had some co-workers who got to know him pretty well, and none had anything bad to say about him personally, even those that disagreed with him ideologically.

2012 president seems a bit of a reach. He may actually be a very good consideration for VP, though. I'm curious if he will try to run against Feingold for Senate in 2010. Bad move, IMO, as he would lose in my opinion, although he would def. put a lot of heat on Feingold.
 
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