Floyd Mayweather vs. JM Marquez
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Disagree with the first part, but not the 2nd part.
PacMan style is great for a Floyd fight.
Pac and Roache said they're not going to wait for JMM/Floyd fight and they want to fight Cotto next. Can't blame them for not wanting to wait around sitting on their hands...
- Jun 23, 2008
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Floyd looked old at the presser yesterday - I wonder how that long layoff will effect his in ring performance. 143 definitely favors him though. I gotta lean towards Mayweather, just because JMM got a lot of leather layed on him by both Casa and Diaz. Mayweather is better than both of them.
I think Pacquiao beats the winner of JMM-Floyd. And I think he does it by KO.
I'll play floyd for big money in the -380 range. I'll even make a trip to vegas if they have a better line somewhere. I don't give JMM much of a chance. He's too flat footed and slow for FMJ. Jmm is going to have a lot of trouble fighting a mover and someone fast on his feet like Jr. I see Floyd cruising to a wide ud or a late KO. I thought JMM did well against Diaz but he took a ton of shots before dropping his bombs. Diaz isn't in Moneys league.
Pac/Floyd WOW!!!- that one brings in 100 mil if they do it soon. Even money fight but I'd lean towards Pac right now.
Pac/Floyd WOW!!!- that one brings in 100 mil if they do it soon. Even money fight but I'd lean towards Pac right now.
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- Apr 8, 2008
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I can see why you like Floyd. It's certainly reasonable. But I think JMM can hold 143 well and it's prob not the best weight for Floyd. Further, Floyd is very economical unlike Diaz. He only threw about 300 shots in his bout with Hatton. Juan is a sharpshooter and probably the best fighter Floyd has ever seen. Floyd will be in tough.
PacMan will KO Floyd. But I don't think Floyd will share a ring with him.
PacMan will KO Floyd. But I don't think Floyd will share a ring with him.
seems like the lefty stance and speed make manny so tough...
the bits and pieces i saw vs hatton looked more like a speed issue and hatton having absolutely no clue how to fight a lefty.. ...
the diaz fight really makes me realize that marquez is in trouble vs mayweather(unless the weight`s an issue...and at 142-43,it shouldn`t be)...
diaz marked marquez up pretty good...marquez has trouble with speed and cuties...and he`ll have even more trouble with "big speed"...
he beats mayweather and every boxing rule of thumb gets thrown out the window...
the bits and pieces i saw vs hatton looked more like a speed issue and hatton having absolutely no clue how to fight a lefty.. ...
the diaz fight really makes me realize that marquez is in trouble vs mayweather(unless the weight`s an issue...and at 142-43,it shouldn`t be)...
diaz marked marquez up pretty good...marquez has trouble with speed and cuties...and he`ll have even more trouble with "big speed"...
he beats mayweather and every boxing rule of thumb gets thrown out the window...
Another point that you guys probably already thought about was that JMM looked looked small at 135 and didn't carry the weight up with his footwork very well against Diaz. I think what saved him was he is one of the most accurate punchers in boxing today. But at 142- 143 the weight gain wont help him.
Pac-man carries his extra weight better than just about anyone in this era, but he is inhuman. I don't think JMM's extra weight will help his power like it did with Pac-man.
I am curious to know what weight Floyd is walking around at now because him being inactive is a little concerning, but it did give his hands time to heal and that can't be bad.
Pac-man carries his extra weight better than just about anyone in this era, but he is inhuman. I don't think JMM's extra weight will help his power like it did with Pac-man.
I am curious to know what weight Floyd is walking around at now because him being inactive is a little concerning, but it did give his hands time to heal and that can't be bad.
The weight might be a problem for Marquez, he's also getting a bit long in the tooth...Kramden makes a good point about Money activity though, he indeed was very econimicol vs. Hatton...
As for Pacman vs. Money,
I really hope this fight is made...Mayweather IMO hasnt fought the best since his fight against Castillo. Pacman might really have too much for Money at this point.:0corn
As for Pacman vs. Money,
I really hope this fight is made...Mayweather IMO hasnt fought the best since his fight against Castillo. Pacman might really have too much for Money at this point.:0corn
Romi-I just played FM jr at Mandalay-350. I spoke to the supv there. It opened Sat. nite just after Pac-RH @-350. He took $500 on Marquez, and then my bet. That includes Bellagio, TI, Mirage, MGM, and the rest. I intend to move my lazy ass around town to see if Wynn or Palms has it up. I think Marquez is in just a tad over his head. People forget Mayweathers superb defense, fast hands, size advantage, and overall ring smarts. I am/have been a JMM fan for many years. Tough as nails and outstanding technical boxer. This isn't Juan Diaz. This fight I believe is a prelude to May-Pac. The financials on that one would be off the charts.
Agreed Frankie. Juan Diaz nearly pulled it off. The kid didn't know how to pace nor did he know how to hold when he was hurt. Money is in a different league. I think Floyd can fight the fight he fought against Baldy and pitch a near shut out. I'm not expecting a good fight by any stretch. It's a set up for Pac or Cotto. I'm not knocking JMM because he truly is a great fighter but he's now fighting well out of his wt class, he's aging, and he's fighting Money May.
The tortise and the hare. Manny is greased lightning compared to Cotto. He'll probably whack him too. With Mayweather, it's a different story.
I truly believe the "extra" weight, 5-8 lbs. for Marquez is a handicap and nothing more. Marquez was a monster at featherweight, 126 lbs. Mayweather will come in at a weight more suitable to him and Marquez will just be fighting a naturally bigger, faster, defensive genuis. Lots of chatter about FM being economical with Hatton. To that I say, so what? He opened up when it counted and took out Hatton. What is wrong with a smart fighter that doesn't waste energy and throws a lots of shots that aren't effective? Mayweather fights his style deliberately. One thing, Marquez will make $$$ fight, and that I look foward to.
- Apr 8, 2008
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I understand Money May is virtually broke and is into Uncle Sam for close to 8 figures. Bad things often happen when guys are fighting out of desperation. If Floyd didn't get hurt in this recent economy he probably wouldn't be doing this. I think Marquez brings more to the table than anyone Floyd has ever seen. And I think Marquez will be strong at 143. Marquez, like Pacquiao, has been keeping his weight down for years. His body looked excellent at lightweight and his frame will swallow up more muscle for this catch weight fight.
I find it hard to believe that Floyd is broke, are there any sites you are referring to?
Marquez said he weighed 145 lbs at the presser, which would be just a tad above their contracted weight for the fight (though its apparently still not clear whether it is at 144 or the like), he isnt small, but I think that Money will have a distinctive advantage in that departement.
Marquez said he weighed 145 lbs at the presser, which would be just a tad above their contracted weight for the fight (though its apparently still not clear whether it is at 144 or the like), he isnt small, but I think that Money will have a distinctive advantage in that departement.
