Oh my Manny just got suspended for 50 games

RowdyRider

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Not so fast - he may be just covering up the steriod use:

Two sources told ESPN's T.J. Quinn and Mark Fainaru-Wada that the drug used by Ramirez is human chorionic gonadotropin.

According to the story: "HCG is a women's fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body's natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO." According to the story, male athletes usually use HCG after a cycle of steroids "because steroids often shut down the testosterone-making ability of the testicles. HCG restores their capacity to make testosterone." HCG may be used by some males in lieu of steroids, according to the source. Ramirez reportedly will not appeal the suspension.

Right, but please explain how he took 15 tests over the past 5 years and passed???
 

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it was a sex enhancer HCG is the name of it. It's a fertility pill and helps keep the flagstand up apparently.

I get it that's it's on the banned list and by all rights he will serve the 50 games just for being dumb and not having a trainer approve it.

But he's also apparently taken 15 tests in the last 5 years and passed all of them. To tarnish the guys reputation who love him or hate him is one of the best hitters of our lifetime and first ballot hall of famer seems harsh.

I guess he did the crime and will do the time, but it's unfair to label him a steroid user......


Dodgers will still probably go 48-2 in his absence



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It may be a sex enhancer but I'll promise you that 99% of the time it's used to recover from a cylce. You take it to get your test production back and Nolva to keep from Estro rebound(if you don't you stand a chance to get bitch tits). It's called nutt juice by a lot of people. I know a lot of people that take it but not one has ever said anything about a sex enhancer.
 

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no steroids testing before balco....

gee golly, some ppl just like to talk before knowing facts :mj07:

yeah i'm sure no one knew of his steroid use inside baseball before balco they didn't have formal testing but i guarantee you it had come up at some point
 
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it was a sex enhancer HCG is the name of it. It's a fertility pill and helps keep the flagstand up apparently.

I get it that's it's on the banned list and by all rights he will serve the 50 games just for being dumb and not having a trainer approve it.

But he's also apparently taken 15 tests in the last 5 years and passed all of them. To tarnish the guys reputation who love him or hate him is one of the best hitters of our lifetime and first ballot hall of famer seems harsh.

I guess he did the crime and will do the time, but it's unfair to label him a steroid user......

Dodgers will still probably go 48-2 in his absence


gl

i'm surprised BDB you seemed like the non-homer type.
 

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yeah i'm sure no one knew of his steroid use inside baseball before balco they didn't have formal testing but i guarantee you it had come up at some point

LOL, you're not sticking the the point. The tests are the point, but now you're argument is "I'm sure nobody knew, wink wink."

You were wrong, now move along grasshopper...
 

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i'm surprised BDB you seemed like the non-homer type.

I'm not a homer....I'd say the same thing if he was with the Red Sox.

And I read the initial yahoo report when I wrote that and didn't know it was a masking agent until later. It's too bad.....Wait until the 100 player list comes out and then we'll really have a clue.

He'll do the time and be lumped in with the rest of them I guess......
 

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Taken from a Giants Blog, this post describes why some of us are HAPPY Manny got caught... not written by ImFeklhr:

""With every one of these stories, there's just a little bit of "see! see!" attached. Yankees fans kind of get it. Now Dodgers fans kind of get it. Some people will never get it. Like, say,the guy in the Caminiti jersey giving Bonds an earful in San Diego, or the guy in the "'89 World Champs"-shirt complaining about the sanctity of the game. The Logic Fairy didn't have time to stop by and leave something under the pillow of those folks. Their loss.

That's why I want the stars to tumble. I want Ichiro! to be found in a dingy Ottawa HGH den. I want Dustin Pedroia to be arrested for munching on a greenie sandwich. I want every team's most popular player to go down. Then, maybe, people will say, hey, human nature makes people break rules in order to succeed, or make money, or live up to the expectations of their daddy, or impress Samanthan Scootbottom from the second grade, or whatever. Maybe there isn't something with a specific region of the country, or one or two players. Maybe there's something wrong with humanity.

I don't have a solution for that last part. I'm just a bitter, craven human, myself. But I still feel comfortable flipping off the finger-waggers, and I still feel mostly okay with laughing at the misfortune of others in this instance""
 

gardenweasel

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I really WANT to laugh at one of your jokes. And someday I just might. Keep em coming. :rolleyes:

:shrug: ....the bats never bothered me much.....it was the damned things riding the bats that freaked me out. .....

/errr..i meant "the guys that took lds"......not me...:nono:
 
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gardenweasel

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being that we`re here,any old acid heads in the forum?...

somebody told me that tolerance develops instantly and you can't trip even 2 days in a row no matter how much you take....

i was told that any veteran acid heads will tell you it takes a good month to get your full tripability back after a good one....

`zis true?......never heard that before...:shrug:
 
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