Free cars

[Jabberwocky]

Believe what I said was --
"I just hate buying Da Bases food--paying their mortgage--welfare payments-insurance and now appears their vehicles."

if you inferred it was liberals--I assume you can't distinqiush between the 2.

For future reference "Da Base" is your voting block you either are part of or intentify with--those that voting overwhemingly for his hope/change- redistribution of wealth.

per cnn election results-again

Blacks-95%
hispanics-65%
income under $15,000-75%
no high school-63%
liberals-89%

--youv'e always been a very good handicapper TU--so don't think you'll have hard time with the #'s --your only other option is to believe O when he tells you--

"Mainstream" America made their decision--"I Won-I'm Gumby damit"

Hey DTB, after you get done addressing the exposed fallacies of your post, could you please post the demographic numbers across ALL EDUCATIONAL levels from those same CNN exit polls? Then we can take them one by one.

By the "Da Bases" Jethro means black people. He won't say it, but at the "base" of where he is coming from is that OBama was elected by a bunch of free loading lazy, uneducated, black people.

 

[kosar]

Grabbed from the article. "Applicants for cars must have a job or prove they could get one if they had the car in order to qualify. Once they have the wheels, they must send DTA their pay stubs to prove they are employed"

Please explain your problem with this program.

I'd be interested in this as well.

Wayne, what say you?

 

[kosar]

By the "Da Bases" Jethro means black people. He won't say it, but at the "base" of where he is coming from is that OBama was elected by a bunch of free loading lazy, uneducated, black people.

Of course that's what he means.

Wow, it's amazing that 90% of black vote traditionally democrat and since it went all the way to 95%, the election was secured. Da base. lol

It's interesting how blacks, asians, hispanics and jews vote heavily democrat and Wayne singles out the blacks in every other post and hispanics quite frequently.

Wayne,

It's been about 5 or 6 years now since I asked you to investigate why the asians and jews vote democrat and you said you'd look into it and get back to me.

Any news yet?

 

[smurphy]

Any news yet?

:142smilie Poor Dogs is looking very bad in this thread. He could be a man and stand up and admit that he didn't look into the story very well. But instead he spins and squirms and digs deeper holes from where there is no return.

Come on Wayne, you are decent person - stop making such an ass of yourself all the time.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by StevieD
Grabbed from the article. "Applicants for cars must have a job or prove they could get one if they had the car in order to qualify. Once they have the wheels, they must send DTA their pay stubs to prove they are employed"

Please explain your problem with this program.
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I'd be interested in this as well.

Wayne, what say you?

I be more than happy to explain--as a taxpaying responsible person why should supply them with a car--pay their insurance-inspection-taxes-inspections-repairs and AAA membership.:shrug:

Yep and he can get car- work a month go back on welfare and continue driving car expense free.

I know the Da Base is going :00hour over this one.

--and while on topic check out the felon records ban--another that should have you all :spotting:
--if so maybe they can oblige at your childrens schools or daycare centers--ya think
Free Cars For Welfare Recipients

The Democratic governor who has repeatedly come under fire for his costly leftwing policies is in trouble again for spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to give welfare recipients free cars as an incentive to find work.
Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick?s latest brilliant idea has inevitably caused outrage among many of the state?s 6.5 million residents as well as legislators and some news outfits. Patrick has so far allocated $430,000 a year to operate the free wheels for welfare recipients program.
The innovative program offers free cars, and all the expenses that come with them, to the state?s welfare recipients who are interested in getting to work. Those who end back on welfare after unsuccessful employment stints?brief as they may be?get to keep the publicly financed vehicles. The state spends about $6,000 a year per car to pay for insurance, inspection, excise tax, title, registration, repairs and even an AAA membership.
Like many states across the nation, Massachusetts is experiencing a fiscal crisis yet the governor has somehow found the money to fund this highly controversial deal. One state legislator called it ?mind-boggling? and another questioned the state?s priorities in the midst of unprecedented layoffs and pay cuts.
Since being elected governor in 2006 Patrick, a former Clinton Justice Department attorney in charge of civil rights, has implemented a series of changes that have outraged officials and residents statewide.
A few weeks after moving into the governor?s mansion he eliminated a measure designed to curb illegal immigration by killing a policy that allowed state troopers to detain illegal aliens. Patrick has publicly said that he believes illegal immigrants should get drivers licenses and discounted in-state tuition at public colleges.
Patrick is also working to reverse a longtime state law that allows employers broad access to the criminal records of potential employees because it discriminates against convicted felons and unfairly prevents them from landing jobs and leading productive lives. The governor is expected to announce his plan to ban employers? access to the criminal records sometime this year.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

Only thing I see good about laws above -maybe you will have huge migration of welfare recipients and felons there--along with the Uncle Jim and Aunt Harrys--and you'd have a perfect liberal utopia

 

[smurphy]

 

[StevieD]

Quote:
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Grabbed from the article. "Applicants for cars must have a job or prove they could get one if they had the car in order to qualify. Once they have the wheels, they must send DTA their pay stubs to prove they are employed"

Please explain your problem with this program.
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I be more than happy to explain--as a taxpaying responsible person why should supply them with a car--pay their insurance-inspection-taxes-inspections-repairs and AAA membership.:shrug:

Yep and he can get car- work a month go back on welfare and continue driving car expense free.

I know the Da Base is going :00hour over this one.

--and while on topic check out the felon records ban--another that should have you all :spotting:
--if so maybe they can oblige at your childrens schools or daycare centers--ya think
Free Cars For Welfare Recipients

The Democratic governor who has repeatedly come under fire for his costly leftwing policies is in trouble again for spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to give welfare recipients free cars as an incentive to find work.
Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick?s latest brilliant idea has inevitably caused outrage among many of the state?s 6.5 million residents as well as legislators and some news outfits. Patrick has so far allocated $430,000 a year to operate the free wheels for welfare recipients program.
The innovative program offers free cars, and all the expenses that come with them, to the state?s welfare recipients who are interested in getting to work. Those who end back on welfare after unsuccessful employment stints?brief as they may be?get to keep the publicly financed vehicles. The state spends about $6,000 a year per car to pay for insurance, inspection, excise tax, title, registration, repairs and even an AAA membership.
Like many states across the nation, Massachusetts is experiencing a fiscal crisis yet the governor has somehow found the money to fund this highly controversial deal. One state legislator called it ?mind-boggling? and another questioned the state?s priorities in the midst of unprecedented layoffs and pay cuts.
Since being elected governor in 2006 Patrick, a former Clinton Justice Department attorney in charge of civil rights, has implemented a series of changes that have outraged officials and residents statewide.
A few weeks after moving into the governor?s mansion he eliminated a measure designed to curb illegal immigration by killing a policy that allowed state troopers to detain illegal aliens. Patrick has publicly said that he believes illegal immigrants should get drivers licenses and discounted in-state tuition at public colleges.
Patrick is also working to reverse a longtime state law that allows employers broad access to the criminal records of potential employees because it discriminates against convicted felons and unfairly prevents them from landing jobs and leading productive lives. The governor is expected to announce his plan to ban employers? access to the criminal records sometime this year.
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Only thing I see good about laws above -maybe you will have huge migration of welfare recipients and felons there--along with the Uncle Jim and Aunt Harrys--and you'd have a perfect liberal utopia

You just lie. They get $6,000 less in welfare payments and they have to send their check stubs to the DTA. And they have an 80% success rate. What was your problem again?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Wayne,

After you clear up this "mis-representation full of shit shill" response, could you please show the comlete 2008 election CNN exit polls on education. I will if you don't have it handy.

 

[deadeye]

free cars?

free cars?

i'd settle for a couple of cans of fix a flat. you guys running around with your man crush for our "hip" president amaze me. gimme,gimme,gimme,gimme,gimme. our debt soars but nobody gives a shit. the pork is mindboggling. print more money. nobody is responsible or accountable for anything. as long as your guy is in you don't give a shit what he does. i didn't read the thread about the car give away but if that would have been done 40 years ago people would have thought you had lost your mind. crazy,crazy, times. and yeah i know bush sucked.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Wayne,

After you clear up this "mis-representation full of shit shill" response, could you please show the comlete 2008 election CNN exit polls on education. I will if you don't have it handy.

I'll be happy to -after you back up your allegations that any of the below were misrepresented--
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For future reference "Da Base" is your voting block you either are part of or intentify with--those that voting overwhemingly for his hope/change- redistribution of wealth.

per cnn election results-again

Blacks-95%
hispanics-65%
income under $15,000-75%
no high school-63%
liberals-89%

 

[bryanz]

I'll be happy to -after you back up your allegations that any of the below were misrepresented--
++++++++++++++++++++++++
For future reference "Da Base" is your voting block you either are part of or intentify with--those that voting overwhemingly for his hope/change- redistribution of wealth.

per cnn election results-again

Blacks-95%
hispanics-65%
income under $15,000-75%
no high school-63%
liberals-89%

why don't you post all the #'s ??? what % of college & high school GRADS THAT ARE white, that have income over 20K ,30K to 100 K OR ABOVE, voted for Obama ? bottom line is : blacks don't elect presidents in America... HE COULD NOT HAVE WON, WITHOUT THE WHTE VOTE.... YOUR POINT HAS NO POINT ! IT'S OBVIOUSLLY RACIALLY MOTIVATED AND IGNORANT. If Obama received 0% of the black vote.. He still would have won... NO ????

 

[bryanz]

the Country turned on the BS :

the Country turned on the BS :

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/..... not to many blacks in ohio,colo,nev,n mex,iowa.....

 

[Jabberwocky]

you are misrepresenting the facts by not posting the whole spectrum. Go ahead and post the complete demographic distribution.

I am 100% positive you will not. I will give you some time, then I will post them, then you will runaway and start another thread beating the same drum over and over and over and over again.

 

[smurphy]

i didn't read the thread about the car give away.

and that's why you don't know shit about what you are talking about

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

you are misrepresenting the facts by not posting the whole spectrum. Go ahead and post the complete demographic distribution.

I am 100% positive you will not. I will give you some time, then I will post them, then you will runaway and start another thread beating the same drum over and over and over and over again.

Jabs Sir I've put link up with entire exit poll about 3 times now. Here it is again. PLEASE bookmark it so we don't go through this again. Sheeeez
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1

 

[Jabberwocky]

I know where to find the results, but thanks for the link. Since you won't post it, I will.

Education

OBama McCain
No High School 63% 35%
H.S. Graduate 52% 46%
Some College 51% 47%
College Graduate 50% 48%
Postgraduate 58% 40%

We have been over this so many times. OBama led IN ALL EDUCATIONAL CATEGORIES.

So, I take it "Da Base" is those with any level of education.

Should we address income next?

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I know where to find the results, but thanks for the link. Since you won't post it, I will.

Education

OBama McCain
No High School 63% 35%
H.S. Graduate 52% 46%
Some College 51% 47%
College Graduate 50% 48%
Postgraduate 58% 40%

We have been over this so many times. OBama led IN ALL EDUCATIONAL CATEGORIES.

So, I take it "Da Base" is those with any level of education.

Should we address income next?

My statement was his highest % of voters was those with no high school. Which is correct--and thank you for verifying--

Yes- income would be next in line for you to address--then you may follow up with the remainder in list--but somehow I believe you'll pass as they will all confirm what I put up initially

--As a matter of fact will put it up for you.

Vote by Income


--------------------Obama------Mac


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><COLGROUP><COL width=126><COL width=89><COL width=89><COL width=89><COL width=89><COL width=89></COLGROUP><TBODY><TR><TD class=col_head>Under $15,000 (6%)
</TD><TD class=greyed>73%
</TD><TD>25%
</TD><TD>2%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$15-30,000 (12%)
</TD><TD class=greyed>60%
</TD><TD>37%
</TD><TD>3%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$30-50,000 (19%)
</TD><TD class=greyed>55%
</TD><TD>43%
</TD><TD>2%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$50-75,000 (21%)
</TD><TD>48%
</TD><TD class=greyed>49%
</TD><TD>3%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$75-100,000 (15%)
</TD><TD class=greyed>51%
</TD><TD>48%
</TD><TD>1%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$100-150,000 (14%)
</TD><TD>48%
</TD><TD class=greyed>51%
</TD><TD>1%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$150-200,000 (6%)
</TD><TD>48%
</TD><TD class=greyed>50%
</TD><TD>2%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR class=bottom><TD class=col_head>$200,000 or More (6%)
</TD><TD class=greyed>52%
</TD><TD>46%
</TD><TD>2%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[Trench]

My statement was his highest % of voters was those with no high school. Which is correct--and thank you for verifying--

Voters who've graduated from high school, attended some college, graduated from college or completed post-graduate work outnumber voters who did not graduate high school by a factor of 3 to 1. Voters with "no high school" would most likely be outnumbered by a factor of at least 4 to 1.

Therefore, your statement is mathematically impossible.

 

[gardenweasel]

and i thought that obama and the dems were bending over backwards trying to obsolete the internal combustion engine...

now we find out that they really only want welfare recipients to have the privelege to drive....

constantly trying to force hard working people to take public transportation to work...."be responsible..take mass transit !"...

yet,they`re giving cars to the dregs in our society.....to go to work..but if they don`t,no biggie:shrug: (lol..oh,the irony)......

that`s right dems...more uneducated illegals who need handouts...more welfare...keep those voters beholden to you...come and getcha` gubment cheese!...the productive will foot the bill...no prob...

this IS socialism with a capital "S".....it`s as though if you work for a living you`re a second class citizen....you`re the government`s personal mule....

what`s it gonna take to wake working people up?...to reprogram that liberal academioic endoctrination?...

great job,marx and alinsky...mission accomplished..finally turning a whole generation of softies(a generation borne of individualists) into dependent w.a.b.`s....:thumb:

 

[bryanz]

My statement was his highest % of voters was those with no high school. Which is correct--and thank you for verifying--

Yes- income would be next in line for you to address--then you may follow up with the remainder in list--but somehow I believe you'll pass as they will all confirm what I put up initially

--As a matter of fact will put it up for you.

Vote by Income


--------------------Obama------Mac


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><COLGROUP><COL width=126><COL width=89><COL width=89><COL width=89><COL width=89><COL width=89></COLGROUP><TBODY><TR><TD class=col_head>Under $15,000 (6%)
</TD><TD class=greyed>73%
</TD><TD>25%
</TD><TD>2%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$15-30,000 (12%)
</TD><TD class=greyed>60%
</TD><TD>37%
</TD><TD>3%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$30-50,000 (19%)
</TD><TD class=greyed>55%
</TD><TD>43%
</TD><TD>2%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$50-75,000 (21%)
</TD><TD>48%
</TD><TD class=greyed>49%
</TD><TD>3%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$75-100,000 (15%)
</TD><TD class=greyed>51%
</TD><TD>48%
</TD><TD>1%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$100-150,000 (14%)
</TD><TD>48%
</TD><TD class=greyed>51%
</TD><TD>1%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=col_head>$150-200,000 (6%)
</TD><TD>48%
</TD><TD class=greyed>50%
</TD><TD>2%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR><TR class=bottom><TD class=col_head>$200,000 or More (6%)
</TD><TD class=greyed>52%
</TD><TD>46%
</TD><TD>2%
</TD><TD>
</TD><TD>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I don't know what you are looking to confirm but the vote was basically spilt from 30K up... the majority of the #'s show that your point about race and income are structurally flawed... It wasn't non educated,black,poor Americans that elected Our President.... The Trillion Dollar Question : Why that is such a problem for you ?