Obama's Birth Certificate Authenticated (Again)

[WhatsHisNuts]

Skulnik: I think you missed this "story"....

Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate real

<cite class="vcard"> By JAYMES SONG, Associated Press Writer Jaymes Song, Associated Press Writer </cite> <abbr title="2009-07-27T22:54:53-0700" class="timedate">Tue Jul 28, 1:54 am ET</abbr>
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HONOLULU ? State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.
They hoped to stem a recent surge in the number of inquiries about Obama's birthplace.
"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."
So-called "birthers" ? who claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States ? have grown more vocal recently on blogs and television news shows.
Fukino issued a similar press release Oct. 31, but was prompted to speak out again because of the renewed attention on Obama's beginnings. Hawaii's Health Department has been flooded in recent weeks with questions from individuals and several national TV news networks asking for proof that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.
"They just keep asking over and over and over again," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.
The Constitution states that a person must be a "natural-born citizen" to be eligible for the presidency. Birthers contend that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, and many say he was actually born in Kenya, his father's homeland. They've challenged his citizenship in court.
One widely circulated YouTube clip of a town hall meeting showed a Republican congressman getting booed for saying Obama is a citizen. Talk show host Rush Limbaugh and CNN's Lou Dobbs have also raised the issue, and 10 Republican members of Congress co-sponsored a bill that would require future presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate.
However, it appears Congress has moved on and has accepted Obama's island birthplace. The U.S. House on Monday unanimously approved a resolution recognizing and celebrating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii becoming the 50th state. A clause was included that reads: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961."
State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.
However, Obama's birth certificate along with birth notices from the two Honolulu newspapers were brought forward even before he took office. But that's done nothing to shake the belief by many Obama critics that the president was born abroad.

 

[RAYMOND]

WASHINGTON - What happened to Obamacare? Rhetoric met reality. As both candidate and president, the master rhetorician could conjure a world in which he bestows upon you health care nirvana: more coverage, less cost.
But you can't fake it in legislation. Once you commit your fantasies to words and numbers, the Congressional Budget Office comes along and declares that the emperor has no clothes.
President Obama premised the need for reform on the claim that medical costs are destroying the economy. True. But now we learn -- surprise! -- that universal coverage increases costs. The congressional Democrats' health care plans, says the CBO, increase costs in the range of $1 trillion plus.
In response, the president retreated to a demand that any bill he sign be revenue neutral. But that's classic mis-
direction: If the fierce urgency of health care reform is to radically reduce costs that are producing budget-destroy-
ing deficits, revenue neutrality (by definition) leaves us on precisely the same path to insolvency that Obama himself declares unsustainable.
The Democratic proposals are worse still. Because they do increase costs, revenue neutrality means countervailing tax increases. It's not just that it is crazily anti-
stimulatory to saddle a deeply depressed economy with an income tax surcharge that falls squarely on small business and the investor class. It's that health care reform ends up diverting for its own purposes a source of revenue that might otherwise be used to close the yawning structural budget deficit that is such a threat to the economy and to the dollar.
These blindingly obvious contradictions are why the Democratic health plans are collapsing under their own weight -- at the hands of Democrats. It's Max Baucus, Democratic chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, who called Obama unhelpful for ruling out taxing employer-
provided health insurance as a way to pay for expanded coverage. It's the Blue Dog Democrats in the House who wince at skyrocketing health-reform costs just weeks after having swallowed hemlock for Obama on a ruinous cap-and-
trade carbon tax.
The president is therefore understandably eager to make this a contest between progressive Democrats and reaction-
ary Republicans. He seized on Republican Sen. Jim DeMint's comment that stopping Obama on health care would break his presidency to protest, with perfect disingenuousness, that "this isn't about me. This isn't about politics."
It's all about him. Health care is his signature reform. And he knows that if he produces nothing, he forfeits the mystique that both propelled him to the presidency and has sustained him through a difficult first six months. Which is why Obama's red lines are constantly shifting. Universal coverage? Maybe not. No middle-class tax hit? Well, perhaps, but only if they don't "primarily" bear the burden. Because it's about him, Obama is quite prepared to sign anything as long as it is titled "health care reform."
This is not about politics? Then why is it, to take but the most egregious example, that in this grand health care debate we hear not a word about one of the worst sources of waste in American medicine: the insane cost and arbitrary rewards of our malpractice system?
When a neurosurgeon pays $200,000 a year for malpractice insurance before he even turns on the light in his office or hires his first nurse, who do you think pays? Patients, in higher doctor fees to cover the insurance.
And with jackpot justice that awards one claimant zillions while others get nothing -- and one-third of everything goes to the lawyers -- where do you think that money comes from? The insurance companies, who then pass it on to you in higher premiums.
But the greatest waste is the hidden cost of defensive medicine: tests and procedures that doctors order for no good reason other than to protect themselves from lawsuit. Every doctor knows, as I did when I practiced years ago, how much unnecessary medical cost is incurred with an eye not on medicine but on the law.
Tort reform would yield tens of billions in savings. Yet you cannot find it in the Democratic bills. And Obama breathed not a word about it in the full hour of his health care news conference. Why? No mystery. The Democrats are parasitically dependent on huge donations from trial lawyers.
Didn't Obama promise a new politics that puts people over special interests? Sure. And now he promises expanded, portable, secure, higher-quality medical care -- at lower cost! The only thing he hasn't promised is to extirpate evil from the human heart. That legislation will be introduced next week.

 

[Tcas]

 

[bryanz]

The question for me is not : if Obama is an American... the question for all of us that care about America should be : is there anyone left in Washington, that cares about America and the people that live here and our interest world wide.. At this point, after what bush/cheney/reid/pelosi and the rest left him & us, Obama mize well be from mars... If our system allows a guy that may not be who he says he is, or a guy that some think didn't win the election to be president , we have trouble....... In America, as the leader of democracy, our last three election leave something to be desired. If the questions that the left had about the bush election are true / if the questions that right has about obama are true.... What are we doing ?

 

[Skulnik]

Gmroz, how about releasing the original birth certificate to the PUBLIC and release his passports over the years?

 

[kosar]

Gmroz, how about releasing the original birth certificate to the PUBLIC and release his passports over the years?

Release it how, you stupid fuck? Hawaiian health officials have confirmed it, a picture of it was put on the web and there are birth announcements in two Honolulu newspapers.

Should they send the original to a random citizen in Salt Lake City for him to verify and then he can mail it on to someone else to verify and on and on until all 300 million of us have seen it? Jesus Christ.

 

[RAYMOND]

Release it how, you stupid fuck? Hawaiian health officials have confirmed it, a picture of it was put on the web and there are birth announcements in two Honolulu newspapers.

Should they send to original to a random citizen in Salt Lake City for him to verify and then he can mail it on to someone else to verify and on and on until all 300 million of us have seen it? Jesus Christ.

we not buying it , omama must go:SIB

 

[Eddie Haskell]

This birth certificate garbage fits a perfect right wing republican agenda.

Fabricate an issue. Then capitalize on it with a certain segment of the American public whose porch light is dim.

Eddie

 

[Cie]

Gmroz, how about releasing the original birth certificate to the PUBLIC and release his passports over the years?

There is so much for which you can legitimately criticize Obama, that it blows my mind that you continue to harp on this nonsense.

 

[Lumi]

 

[Spytheweb]

There is so much for which you can legitimately criticize Obama, that it blows my mind that you continue to harp on this nonsense.

They have a black President and they don't like it.

America has problems and republicans have no new ideas how to fix them so they cry about no issue news. They think maybe if they cry loud enough Obama will quit or turn white.

 

[gardenweasel]

They have a black President and they don't like it.

America has problems and republicans have no new ideas how to fix them so they cry about no issue news. They think maybe if they cry loud enough Obama will quit or turn white.

that`s the best you got,moron?....racism?......

you should go back to copy and paste....cause you have little of substance to offer when speaking on the fly...

 

[shawn555]

that`s the best you got,moron?....racism?......

you should go back to copy and paste....cause you have little of substance to offer when speaking on the fly...

than what is the reason for this fake birth certficate bullshit.

Its all about race. Some people still want no part of this country having a president who is not white.

If he was a white guy with a mom from kansas and a dad from ireland no one would think twice about it.

 

[auspice3]

This birth certificate garbage fits a perfect right wing republican agenda.

Fabricate an issue. Then capitalize on it with a certain segment of the American public whose porch light is dim.

Eddie

Yepper. It also shows who the real leader of the Republican party is. Hell, Rupert Murdoch OWNS the party now. Why even wonder anymore.

Remember when Micheal Moore said something to the effect that American has the stupidest voters in the world and the 'right' turned it into 'the daily reason to hate Micheal Moore'. Anybody really doubt what he said for one second now? Seriously? Can you imagine the UK slobbering about, saying Margaret Thatcher was from Scotland or Mars....or always wore dirty underwear....or that Russia planted her birth certificate in the London Times 80 plus years ago to facilitate the 'takeover' ?

This one issue alone shows just how fractured our political process is now. The right no longer wishes to really govern. Why debate issues when creating divisiveness is far easier and more effective. Fox can manufacture issues and continue to skate until the networks unite and hold the assholes feet to the fire on a nightly basis. And they won't ever do it. Never.

 

[Trench]

than what is the reason for this fake birth certficate bullshit.

Its all about race. Some people still want no part of this country having a president who is not white.

If he was a white guy with a mom from kansas and a dad from ireland no one would think twice about it.

Of course it's about race. When you remove the phony layer of patriotism the birthers cloak their cause in, all you have left is race. The birther movement is the equivalent of saying to Obama "Since you're not white, you're gonna need to show us your papers". Does anyone seriously believe that if Barry Goldwater had been elected in 1964, or if John McCain had been elected last year, a movement would have ensued in either case to discredit their legal right to hold office? Not a chance in hell.

 

[Skulnik]

This birth certificate garbage fits a perfect right wing republican agenda.

Fabricate an issue. Then capitalize on it with a certain segment of the American public whose porch light is dim.

Eddie

The DIM you're talking about voted for the RACIST Obama.

:toast:

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Oh yeah, but at least our dim have the sense to stay home instead of get killed in a war for oil. I'd rather have dim-left, than dim-right, dim wit.

Eddie

 

[Lumi]

Oh yeah, but at least our dim have the sense to stay home instead of get killed in a war for oil. I'd rather have dim-left, than dim-right, dim wit.

Eddie

Come on Eddie, those who are fighting, for whatever reason they joined deserve more than that. Left, Right, Center... 9/10 of your posts are well thought out, you whiffed on that one.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I admit somewhat on the harsh side, but if you think this through, I think some harsh things need be said so that we don't allow super-patriotism and the emotions that go with it get people (ours and theirs) killed unnecessarily.

I ask myself, self why do these primarily teen, 20 and some 30 year olds join the military to put themselves in harms way. I think the real reason most of them join is the economy covered with a thick layer of frosting called nationalism/patriotism.

It's very hard to suggest soldiers joining up is not a good thing. I frankly would rather have these people get jobs or create jobs in the USA rather than give 4 years "...in service to their country". Hell, if you really want to give back, join the Peace Corp, Vista or other agencies that don't promote war and don't have the perks military service has attached to it.

I think a lot of people join the military so that they can parade through airports and people stand and clap. I think a lot of people join the military so that they can take advantage of the benefits offered upon completion of their service. I think a lot of people join the military because they can't get jobs here. I think the politicians with there phoney baloney lines about how great it is to serve and die for their country is crap. If so, where was George, Dick, the dike daughter, Jenna, Barack, etc. Get em all riled up about the nasty brown people in Iraq coupled with the perks, lack of jobs, and adulation they receive, you have the makings of a total snow job on younger and impressionable minds.

I can be a hero, fight for the good ole USA. Sorry, I've seen it several times in my lifetime and found it to be lies of the highest magnitude coming from some mighty evil people. When there is a real threat to this country, I will be the second to bear arms. My son will be the first.

But I will not accept and agree to what this country has done in 1965 and 2003. The basis for those killings were lies sold to us under the guise of patriotism. 60,000 + dead US. hundreds of thousands of others.

Why.

I know I'm going to get the normal commie, anti-american shit. But until we realize and I mean really realize what we are doing in the world, I think people like Bush should be tried as traitors. I despise the "God Bless the USA" bumper stickers. That feeds the koo koo mentality. I love the "God Bless Everyone" bumper stickers.

Sorry my annual rant on this subject.

Eddie

 

[Lumi]

It's not ours and theirs, death doesn't discriminate.

After 9/11 it was allot of HOOORAH, I am sure the recruitment centers were over run. Pat Tillman cetainly helped that. When I enlisted it was 1 day after Ronnie whacked Kadaffy, it wasn't by design, it just ended up that way, and it to 14 hours to inprocess when it should take 3.

Economics and Poverty do play a role in Enlistment as well as the "Family Business"

Young "bangers" join who aren't marked up and no records to get the training.

Some, very few join for the addulatuion, at least not to start, because when you come back, you have scrambled eggs for brains for a while. It took me years to get over it, and still car back-fires ten to make me stop, drop and roll and DRAW, yes even when it's 118 degrees out here and the asphalt is close to 150.

BTW I hate that fucking song "God Bless the USA" makes me physically ill.

I know a am an American and a Patriot, I don't need a Yellow Ribbon Magnet on my Truck to prove it. Plus that tear up your paint job, especially out here.