In big college football games, how important is revenge factor?

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In big college football games, how important is revenge factor?

Even bettors who downplay or entirely discount the significance of ?revenge? in handicapping a football game might be tempted to reexamine their philosophy come Sept. 26.

Last year Penn State had won its first nine games heading into a clash with Iowa at Kinnick Stadium in Iowa City. The Nittany Lions were hoping to attain a perfect season and a national championship shot ? or at least to generate an uproar if they were left out of the BCS title game.

Their plans changed when Iowa, trailing by nine points heading into the fourth quarter, rallied to beat Penn State 24-23 as an underdog of 7 1/2 points on Nov. 8. Penn State went on to win its final two regular-season games before losing to Southern Cal in the Rose Bowl.

Sports gamblers like to debate when or if the ?revenge factor? carries any weight. But public sentiment figures to favor Penn State in its rematch against Iowa, scheduled for Sept. 26 in Happy Valley ? especially among fans and bettors who believe the Lions will be out to ?punish? Iowa for last season?s debacle.

In Las Vegas, bettors don?t have to wait until the week of the game to take a position on it. Penn State-Iowa is one of dozens of college football ?games of the year? on which oddsmakers have posted early betting lines.

Coincidentally, Penn State opened as a 7 1/2-point favorite against Iowa according to odds at the Las Vegas Hilton sports book ? the same closing point spread attached to last year?s game.

In another game backed by a vivid story line, Tennessee opened as a 5 1/2-point favorite against UCLA in their Sept. 12 game, a rematch of last season?s thriller. In their 2008 opener, UCLA scored a 27-24 upset in overtime against the Volunteers as a 7-point underdog.

The ?games of the year? on the betting board range from early September through the Army-Navy game scheduled for Dec. 12. Navy opened as a 12 1/2-point favorite at the Hilton.

As always in this type of wagering, bettors ?lock in? the point spread at the time they place their bet, regardless of any subsequent changes in the line. According to the Hilton?s house rules, the game must be played within eight days of its scheduled date for the bet to be valid, and the game must be played at its designated site.

In other noteworthy ?games of the year?:

? Florida, the heavy preseason favorite to win the national championship, commands some of the largest point spreads on the board. The Gators opened as a 24-point favorite against Tennessee on Sept. 19 and are favored by 22 points against Florida State on Nov. 28. The Gators are a favorite of 2-1 ? or less ? to win the national title in Las Vegas sports books. Florida even inspired a ?yes/no? proposition at all Lucky?s books that allows gamblers to lay minus 240 (risk $2.40 to net $1) that it will not win the national title.

? If Florida is like Tiger Woods on the Buick Open betting board, Texas and Oklahoma are Justin Leonard and Scott Verplank: contenders offering decent odds for bettors willing to try to ?beat the favorite.? Texas opened as a 1-point favorite in their Oct. 17 showdown, a clash between Heisman Trophy hopefuls Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford.

? Ohio State, a narrow betting favorite to win the Big Ten title ahead of Penn State, opened as a 3-point underdog on the road against the Nittany Lions on Nov. 7.

? Southern Cal, projected as the class of the Pac-10 as well as a national championship contender, opened as a 19 1/2-point favorite in its traditional rivalry game against UCLA Nov. 28.

? Boise State, which enters the season with a lofty season-win over/under of 10 1/2, commands respect from oddsmakers in several ?games of the year.? For example, the Broncos opened as a 15-point favorite against Hawaii on Oct. 24 and as an 18-point favorite against UNR on Nov. 27.

? UNLV, coming off a 49-27 loss to UNR a year ago, opened as a 9-point underdog against the Wolf Pack on Oct. 3 in Reno.
 

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I don't think "Revenge" is the right word

I don't think "Revenge" is the right word

Most of this "revenge" talk really seems to be a case of "remember how we didn't beat them last year, we'd better make sure we don't do it again this year." Penn St has absolutely no reason for revenge against anyone. On the other hand, Joe Pa should and will definitely point out that they didn't take Iowa seriously enough last year and look what happened... Penn St probably WILL be more focused at this year's Iowa game, and may well play better due to it. That's not revenge and I don't think that that sort of factor impacts any spread that you can bet much money into (but probably does hit the moneyline).

"Revenge" always seems to be framed in terms of a good team wanting it over a lesser team who had the temerity to win. What about all of those teams that Oklahoma ran up the score on needlessly at the end of the season - you'd think that they would have MAJOR reasons for revenge. Think that will affect the spreads? Not will it come up in the coach's pep talks, not will we hear about it in the papers and on ESPN, will it affect the spreads?

Revenge is Sam Wyche vs. Jerry Glanville years ago or Meyer vs. Richt last year - a personal statement, usually by the head coach, not to atone for a loss, but to punish the other side/coach. It happens, but not too often. Like "looking past" an opponent, revenge seems to me to be something that you can only see in the rearview mirror, so I don't see how it could possibly be used for handicapping.
 

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Most of this "revenge" talk really seems to be a case of "remember how we didn't beat them last year, we'd better make sure we don't do it again this year." Penn St has absolutely no reason for revenge against anyone. On the other hand, Joe Pa should and will definitely point out that they didn't take Iowa seriously enough last year and look what happened... Penn St probably WILL be more focused at this year's Iowa game, and may well play better due to it. That's not revenge and I don't think that that sort of factor impacts any spread that you can bet much money into (but probably does hit the moneyline).

"Revenge" always seems to be framed in terms of a good team wanting it over a lesser team who had the temerity to win. What about all of those teams that Oklahoma ran up the score on needlessly at the end of the season - you'd think that they would have MAJOR reasons for revenge. Think that will affect the spreads? Not will it come up in the coach's pep talks, not will we hear about it in the papers and on ESPN, will it affect the spreads?

Revenge is Sam Wyche vs. Jerry Glanville years ago or Meyer vs. Richt last year - a personal statement, usually by the head coach, not to atone for a loss, but to punish the other side/coach. It happens, but not too often. Like "looking past" an opponent, revenge seems to me to be something that you can only see in the rearview mirror, so I don't see how it could possibly be used for handicapping.



I agree.

IMO revenge scenario only
If you been pummelled by a
70-10 score .

Coaches may hold more of a revenge grudge

So Oklahoma may have some Karma issue's this season...

But I'm certain in Stoops eyes
He was trying to impress the
Pollster's.

BTW
I think they did...
 
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I didn't write the story, I post what I find interesting and of use. They are written by 'cappers who write 2-3 articles a day. I'm sure they have the numbers to back up the reasoning for the articles they write, it's not like it's a shitty tabloid or People magazine :shrug:
 

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I didn't write the story, I post what I find interesting and of use. They are written by 'cappers who write 2-3 articles a day. I'm sure they have the numbers to back up the reasoning for the articles they write, it's not like it's a shitty tabloid or People magazine :shrug:

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revenge smenge

articles dont win the cash

alot of times they try to mislead rather than be of any help. Slow news day
 
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