She sums it up nicely

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Linda McQuaig

I'm inclined to believe the fierce resistance to health-care reform in the United States is the work of a small fringe.

The other possibility is that there's something deep in the psyche of Americans that drives them to defend to the death their right to deny health care to millions of their fellow citizens.

Some have attempted to downplay the scariness of recent protests against President Barack Obama's health reform efforts, noting that a lot of Americans protested George W. Bush as well.

But the anti-Obama protesters are much more extreme ? and yet are treated much more respectfully. When Obama spoke in Phoenix last month, about a dozen protesters showed up carrying guns, including one who was interviewed by the national media as he strutted about freely with an assault rifle slung over his shoulder. (Anti-Bush protesters got no such media attention, and would have been arrested ? if not shot ? had they shown up at presidential rallies bearing assault weapons.)

While the U.S. media gave prime time to gun-toting health reform opponents, they all but ignored a Harvard study, reported last week in the American Journal of Public Health, that found nearly 45,000 people die in the U.S. each year largely because they lack health insurance.

As resistance to U.S. health reform rages on ? with its inane, vicious, even racist overtones ? the fiasco should remind Canadians of the dangers of allowing our public health-care system to deteriorate.

What makes health reform so elusive in the U.S. is the way its opponents ? led by wealthy corporate interests ? are able to play Americans off against each other.
Americans are hunkered down in their own little bunkers, watching out just for themselves and their families. Anyone proposing reforms that might result in higher taxes is met with a rifle poked out the top of the bunker.

It's this dynamic ? citizens pitted against each other ? that has kept Americans at each other's throats over health care for years. It's easy to understand, for instance, why middle class American taxpayers resent paying for medicaid, a public program that provides some coverage for the poor, when these same taxpayers can't afford coverage for themselves and their families.

The only real solution is public health care for all. A Canadian-style plan could save Americans $400 billion a year, Harvard's Dr. David Himmelstein wrote recently in the New England Journal of Medicine.

But Americans are so uninformed about the rest of the world that few even seem aware any Canadian can spend weeks in hospital getting state-of-the-art medical treatment and then walk out the front door without owing a penny. Such is the menace of public health care.

Universal care is extremely popular once it's in place, but it can be hard to overcome resistance to putting it in place, as the current U.S. psychodrama shows. (Canada went through a less traumatic, but still difficult initiation.)
All this should serve as a potent lesson to Canadians about the urgency of protecting our public health-care system. Once it starts to fall apart, the rich bolt from it, arrange for their own care and then object to paying taxes for a system they don't much use.

The importance of avoiding this fate has never been more apparent than now, when the snarling fury of America's current crop of right-wing extremists almost makes one nostalgic for last year's gentler, childlike lunacy of Sarah Palin.
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The other possibility is that there's something deep in the psyche of Americans that drives them to defend to the death their right to deny health care to millions of their fellow citizens.
It's a very good article Sponge, but she didn't deliver the money shot.

WHAT IS IT in the psyche of Americans that drives them to defend to the death their right to deny health care to millions of their felllow citizens?

Hmmm... :mj03:

What could it be?
 

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For the last 3-4 months I have been talking to people in Canada,I have went to some trouble but not that much,at every opportunity I have asked the same question, are you happy with your health care in Canada,everyone said that they are really pleased, some said that they make an appointment and had to wait 6 to 8 hours to see some one when there wasn't an emergency, if there was an emergency you go right in , they see you right away !! Some said that their hospitals or clinics are understaffed , but would not change that for the cost that we pay in the United States.
Several told me that the United States was way behind on this matter , that there are too many crooks in our political system. :SIB
How did they know that I wondered ?:shrug:
 

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that there are too many crooks in our political system

ya think:0corn
 

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For the last 3-4 months I have been talking to people in Canada,I have went to some trouble but not that much,at every opportunity I have asked the same question, are you happy with your health care in Canada,everyone said that they are really pleased, some said that they make an appointment and had to wait 6 to 8 hours to see some one when there wasn't an emergency, if there was an emergency you go right in , they see you right away !! Some said that their hospitals or clinics are understaffed , but would not change that for the cost that we pay in the United States.
Several told me that the United States was way behind on this matter , that there are too many crooks in our political system. :SIB
How did they know that I wondered ?:shrug:

Donny, i have seen post after post from Canadians and not one of them want our corrupt garbage. I don't think Canada has as many gullible people as we have here.
 

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It's a very good article Sponge, but she didn't deliver the money shot.

WHAT IS IT in the psyche of Americans that drives them to defend to the death their right to deny health care to millions of their felllow citizens?

Hmmm... :mj03:

What could it be?

Trench guys who fight for billionaires rights with a middle class pocket book think they are gonna someday become a billionaire. On Fox tonight they told their pigeons that if you think like a billionaire percentages are high u will become one. Right after that they showed the flood in GA and they put a D under the flood like the flood was a Democrat. They figured since these jackasses fell for it with Foley and Craig why not the flood.
 

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No doubt that the same guys who sold us the Iraq War are blitzing the Media selling us this Anti-Health Reform. What I don't understand is that after being so wrong about Iraq why do they still have an audience?:shrug:
 

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It's a very good article Sponge, but she didn't deliver the money shot.

WHAT IS IT in the psyche of Americans that drives them to defend to the death their right to deny health care to millions of their felllow citizens?

Hmmm... :mj03:

What could it be?

I can't speak for others but I'll answer for myself--

I among the 78% of americans that are satisfied with their healthcare.

I previously paid my own no prob--now am on wife group--like even better.

What do we and the 78% have in common--we are working class.

Now lets get to your "millions" who don't have it and why I am against it.

If you can afford it and don't want it--that your choice-live with consequences.

If your an illegal--get back where you come from.

If welfare has been your way of life for generations--you need to get a life.

--I'm not denying you shit--when elements of our society want to give you a raise everytime you have one more illigit kid thats their prob--
Until they do unemployment can reach 10% and we will still have jobs some americans don't want--because doing nothing but spreading the ole legs is more advantageous.

--and now a little article(lessons on life) from liberals fav author :)

Tuesday, September 22, 2009

The Underdogs
by <ACRONYM title="Thomas Sowell">Thomas Sowell</ACRONYM>





It is a good reflection on Americans that they tend to be on the side of the underdog. But it is often hard to tell who is in fact the underdog, or why.
Many years ago, there was a big, lumbering catcher named Ernie Lombardi whose slowness afoot was legendary. Someone once said that not only was Ernie Lombardi the slowest man who ever played major league baseball, whoever was second slowest was probably a lot faster runner than Ernie Lombardi.
When Lombardi came to bat, infielders played back on the outfield grass. That gave them more range in getting to balls that Lombardi hit. They could snare line-drives that would otherwise be base hits. With ground balls, they could easily throw to first base from the outfield grass and get the slow-moving Lombardi out.
Despite all that, Ernie Lombardi had a lifetime batting average of .306 and even led the league in batting a couple of years. But many people said that, if Lombardi had had just average speed, he could have been a .400 hitter.
One day, as a teenager sitting in the Polo Grounds, the stadium where the then New York Giants played, I was privileged to watch a historic event. Ernie Lombardi laid down a bunt!
The crowd went wild. The play took forever, with Lombardi laboriously clumping down to first base-- running as hard as he could, but still not very fast-- while the third baseman made a long run in from left field to get to the bunt.
We cheered ourselves hoarse rooting for big Ernie as he doggedly but slowly made his way down the first base line. He barely beat the throw, which set off another explosion of cheers.
We were not just cheering for a home-town player. We were rooting for Lombardi to get revenge on those who had taken advantage of him for so long. We were cheering for the underdog.
But was Lombardi really an underdog? How many players end up their careers with a lifetime batting average over .300 or with two batting titles? Like most of us, Lombardi was handicapped in some ways and privileged in others

Many people would consider it a handicap to be a black orphan, born in the Jim Crow South during the Great Depression of the 1930s. But the home into which I was adopted had four adults and I was the only child. Many years later, when I was a parent and asked one of the surviving members of that family how old I was when I started walking, she said: "Oh, Tommy, nobody knows when you could walk. Somebody was always carrying you."
You can't buy that. A leading historian of education has said that the New York City public schools were the best in the country during the 1940s. That was when I went to school there. That was enough piece of sheer good luck that came my way. Today the classes are smaller, the buildings more modern-- but the education itself is a disaster. I got the kind of education that people have to go to expensive private schools to get today.
Perhaps more important, nobody told me that I couldn't make it because I was poor and black, or that I ought to hate white people today because of what some other white people did to my ancestors in some other time.
Nobody sugar-coated the facts of racial discrimination. But Professor Sterling Brown of Howard University, who wrote with eloquent bitterness about racism, nevertheless said to me when I prepared to transfer to Harvard: "Don't come back here and tell me you didn't make it 'cause white folks were mean."
He burned my bridges behind me, the way they used to do with armies going into battle, so that they had no place to retreat to, and so had to fight to win.
One of the problems with trying to help underdogs, especially with government programs, is that they and everyone else start to think of them as underdogs, focusing on their problems rather than their opportunities. Thinking of themselves as underdogs can also dissipate their energies in resentments of others, rather than spending that energy making the most of their own possibilities.
It must have been discouraging for Ernie Lombardi, especially in his early years, to be repeatedly thrown out at first base on balls that would have been base hits for anybody else. But he couldn't let himself dwell on that-- not and win two batting titles.
 
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