Saudis ask for Aid - they need the money

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Saudis ask for aid if world cuts dependence on oil
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There are plenty of needy countries at the U.N. climate talks in Bangkok that make the case they need financial assistance to adapt to the impacts of global warming. Then there are the Saudis.

Saudi Arabia has led a quiet campaign during these and other negotiations ? demanding behind closed doors that oil-producing nations get special financial assistance if a new climate pact calls for substantial reductions in the use of fossil fuels.

That campaign comes despite an International Energy Agency report released this week showing that OPEC revenues would still increase $23 trillion between 2008 and 2030 ? a fourfold increase compared to the period from 1985 to 2007 ? if countries agree to significantly slash emissions and thereby cut their use of oil. That is the limit most countries agree is needed to avoid the worst impacts of climate change.

The head of the Saudi delegation Mohammad S. Al Sabban dismissed the IEA figures as ?biased? and said OPEC's own calculations showed that Saudi Arabia would lose $19 billion a year starting in 2012 under a new climate pact. The region would lose much more, he said.

?We are among the economically vulnerable countries,? Al Sabban told The Associated Press on the sidelines of the talks ahead of negotiations in Copenhagen in December for a treaty to replace the Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012.

?This is very serious for us,? he continued. ?We are in the process of diversifying our economy but this will take a long time. We don't have too many resources.?

Saudi Arabia, which sits atop the world's largest proven oil reserves, is seeing economic growth slide because of fallout from the global meltdown, but experts still expect the country, flush with cash from oil's earlier price spike last year, to be better able than other nations to cope with the current crisis.

Al Sabban accused Western nations of pursuing an agenda against oil producers, under the guise of protecting the planet.

?Many politicians in the Western world think these climate change negotiations and the new agreement will provide them with a golden opportunity to reduce their dependence on imported oil,? Al Sabban said. ?That means you will transfer the burden to developing countries, especially to those highly dependent on the exploitation of oil.?

Al Sabban said his country wanted a new deal and was not impeding progress in talks as some activists have claimed.

An Arab environmental group IndyACT and the environmental group Germanwatch released a report today accusing Saudi Arabia of blocking key elements of the negotiations. Among their tactics, the groups said, was slowing negotiations by insisting that the economic woes of oil producers be included in the text.

?Despite the variability in the region, the current Arab position is mainly focused around protecting the oil trade rather than saving the planet form the adverse impacts of climate change,? said Wael Hmaidan, the executive director of IndyACT.

Most countries have agreed that any new pact should include provisions to avoid temperature increases of more than 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit (2 degrees Celsius) above preindustrial levels ? the threshold at which most scientists say serious climate change will ensue.

That would require emissions cuts from industrial countries of 25 to 40 percent below 1990 levels by 2020, far above the 15 to 23 percent cuts rich countries have offered so far. It would also require developing countries to scale back their emissions.

Both rich and poor countries are counting on a transition to a low carbon economy as a key component of meeting their reductions, a move that would require them to away from fossil fuels and toward renewables like solar, wind and hydro power.
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Too bad Bush and Cheney are gone. They would have gone right over there and wrote them a check for a few billion just to show friendship.

I cant wait until we go totally green and all our cars are electric powered. Put them back in tents on the sand where they belong.

Oil terrorists. Did they help us out when 911 went down and everyone of the guys were Saudis.

let them rot in holy hell
 

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Tough sheriff's immigration duties face limits after complaintsStory Highlights
Some say his deputies' raids were unconstitutional roundups of Latinos
Sheriff: Federal agency wants to limit him to checking inmates' immigration status
Sheriff rejects allegations that he abused power, violated civil rights
Homeland Security chief says he's reacting prematurely to decisions yet to be made
updated 57 minutes agoNext Article in Crime ?


(CNN) -- Federal authorities are moving to rein in the man dubbed "America's Toughest Sheriff" after complaints that immigration raids by his deputies amounted to unconstitutional roundups of Latinos.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio supervises an inmate relocation in Phoenix, Arizona.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio and the Maricopa County, Arizona, sheriff's department have had an agreement with the Department of Homeland Security since 2007 that allows his department to enforce federal immigration laws. But Arpaio says the federal agency is moving to revise the agreement to limit that power to checking the immigration status of inmates already in his Phoenix jail.

Arpaio has cultivated his image as "America's Toughest Sheriff," a nickname earned by his treatment of Maricopa County inmates. Many of his prisoners are housed in tents and forced to wear pink underwear, and he once boasted of feeding them on less than a dollar a day.

Now he faces a Justice Department investigation into allegations of civil rights abuses, and the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona is suing the sheriff over immigration raids conducted by his department. The class-action lawsuit alleges that Arpaio has abused the power delegated to him under his agreement with Homeland Security, known as the 287(g) program.

"He's unconstitutionally acted to racially profile many persons in the community, persons who appear or are Latino," ACLU lawyer Dan Pochoda told CNN. Pochoda said the five-term sheriff has launched a series of high-profile raids to appeal to "his anti-immigration base."

Arpaio told CNN's "American Morning" the allegations were "garbage" and said he would continue to use state laws to crack down on undocumented immigrants in his county.

"We do not go on street corners and grab people that look like they're from another country," he said. "Pursuant to our duties, when we come across illegals, we take action." Watch what Arpaio has to say ?

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who was Arizona's governor before taking her Cabinet post, told CNN that Arpaio is reacting prematurely to decisions that have not yet been finalized. But Arpaio says he's now become the poster boy of the emotionally charged immigration debate and is losing authority for political reasons.

"They don't want to aggravate the Hispanic community, aggravate the businesspeople who hire the illegals, and they want amnesty," he said.

Arpaio said he planned to continue his operations "with no changes."


"We do enforce traffic violations. All law enforcement does that, and comes across some serious criminals, which we do in our crime suppression," he said. "We go into workplaces under the state law, and we arrest people in the workplace there illegally with identity theft situations and human smuggling."

But according to a 2008 policy report on effective law enforcement by the Goldwater Institute, a libertarian-leaning watchdog group based in Phoenix, Arpaio's department "falls seriously short of fulfilling its mission." The report found that Maricopa County has "diverted resources away from basic law-enforcement functions to highly publicized immigration sweeps, which are ineffective in policing illegal immigration."
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another topic that riles my ass :SIB
 

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from 2000 to 2006, when the republicans had full control, where was the drilling? Where was the border control? Where was the fiscal responsibility?

You neocons are an absurd joke.
 

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from 2000 to 2006, when the republicans had full control, where was the drilling? Where was the border control? Where was the fiscal responsibility?

You neocons are an absurd joke.
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Maybe they wernt willing to risk making decisions for fear of losing the election to a black man
 

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If any of you dipshits had an ounce of intelligence (not you guys, the other morons) google up the Carlyle group. See if you can comprehend what the fuck happened from 2000-2008. Take a shot at CACI, Blackwater, Haliburton, etc...knock yourself out.
 

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If any of you dipshits had an ounce of intelligence (not you guys, the other morons) google up the Carlyle group. See if you can comprehend what the fuck happened from 2000-2008. Take a shot at CACI, Blackwater, Haliburton, etc...knock yourself out.

CBS, NBC and ABC were in the tank for the BUSH administration, that CONSERVATIVE media strikes again, what a JERK.


JMHO.
 

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President Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize
By MATT MOORE

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OSLO ? President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples," the Norwegian Nobel Committee said, citing his outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation.

Enlarge photo Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, left, shakes hands with Zimbabwe's Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, before a meeting at the Moncloa palace in Madrid Thursday, Oct. 8, 2009. (AP Photo/Arturo Rodriguez)

Enlarge photo File - Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks during a rally in this Feb. 16, 2008 file photo taken at Northcentral Technical College, in Wausau, Wis. President Barack Obama has won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer, File)

Enlarge photo File - U.S. President Barack Obama addresses the 64th session of the United Nations General Assembly, in this Sept. 23, 2009 file photo. President Obama on Friday Oct. 9, 2009 won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples," the Norwegian Nobel Committee said. (AP Photo/Richard Drew, File)

Enlarge photo File - President Barack Obama speaks in the East Room of the White House in Washington, in this Oct. 7, 2009 file photo before presenting 2008 medals of Science and medals of Technology. The Norwegian Nobel Committee says U.S. President Barack Obama has won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples." (AP Photo/Alex Brandon, File)

The stunning choice made Obama the third sitting U.S. president to win the Nobel Peace Prize and shockedNobel observers because Obama took office less than two weeks before the Feb. 1 nomination deadline. Obama's name had been mentioned in speculation before the award but many Nobel watchers believed it was too early to award the president.

Speculation had focused on Zimbabwe's Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, a Colombian senator and a Chinese dissident, along with an Afghan woman's rights activist.

The Nobel committee praised Obama's creation of "a new climate in international politics" and said he had returned multilateral diplomacy and institutions like the U.N. to the center of the world stage. The plaudit appeared to be a slap at President George W. Bush from a committee that harshly criticized Obama's predecessor for resorting to largely unilateral military action in the wake of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Rather than recognizing concrete achievement, the 2009 prize appeared intended to support initiatives that have yet to bear fruit: reducing the world stock of nuclear arms, easing American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthening the U.S. role in combating climate change.

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," Thorbjoern Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Committee said. "In the past year Obama has been a key person for important initiatives in the U.N. for nuclear disarmament and to set a completely new agenda for the Muslim world and East-West relations."

He added that the committee endorsed "Obama's appeal that 'Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges.'"

President Theodore Roosevelt won the award in 1906 and President Woodrow Wilson won in 1919.

The committee chairman said after awarding the 2002 prize to former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, for his mediation in international conflicts, that it should be seen as a "kick in the leg" to the Bush administration's hard line in the buildup to the Iraq war.

Five years later, the committee honored Bush's adversary in the 2000 presidential election, Al Gore, for his campaign to raise awareness about global warming.

The Nobel committee received a record 205 nominations for this year's prize though it was not immediately apparent who nominated Obama.

"The exciting and important thing about this prize is that it's given too someone ... who has the power to contribute to peace," Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said.

Nominators include former laureates; current and former members of the committee and their staff; members of national governments and legislatures; university professors of law, theology, social sciences, history and philosophy; leaders of peace research and foreign affairs institutes; and members of international courts of law.

The Nelson Mandela Foundation welcomed the award on behalf of its founder Nelson Mandela, who shared the 1993 Peace Prize with then-South African President F.W. DeKlerk for their efforts at ending years of apartheid and laying the groundwork for a democratic country.

"We trust that this award will strengthen his commitment, as the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, to continue promoting peace and the eradication of poverty," the foundation said.

In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel stipulated that the peace prize should go "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses."

Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which are awarded by Swedish institutions, he said the peace prize should be given out by a five-member committee elected by the Norwegian Parliament. Sweden and Norway were united under the same crown at the time of Nobel's death.

The committee has taken a wide interpretation of Nobel's guidelines, expanding the prize beyond peace mediation to include efforts to combat poverty, disease and climate change.
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Change we can believe in !
 

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Dont Fuk w/ Sheriff Joe Arpaio...this man has the backing of AZ and tell Napilitano she can kiss his azz w/her back stabbing ways now that she is in Obamas land and attempting to give the ILLEGALS amnesty.....The GOVERNMENT made the rules to not have illegals here....Arpaio is just following the laws and is getting criticized for it......Napalitano ur one stupid woman who is so hated here in AZ
 

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Dont Fuk w/ Sheriff Joe Arpaio...this man has the backing of AZ and tell Napilitano she can kiss his azz w/her back stabbing ways now that she is in Obamas land and attempting to give the ILLEGALS amnesty.....The GOVERNMENT made the rules to not have illegals here....Arpaio is just following the laws and is getting criticized for it......Napalitano ur one stupid woman who is so hated here in AZ

Joe Arpaio is nothing but a fucking tool box who is an attention whore.
 

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Dont Fuk w/ Sheriff Joe Arpaio...this man has the backing of AZ and tell Napilitano she can kiss his azz w/her back stabbing ways now that she is in Obamas land and attempting to give the ILLEGALS amnesty.....The GOVERNMENT made the rules to not have illegals here....Arpaio is just following the laws and is getting criticized for it......Napalitano ur one stupid woman who is so hated here in AZ

Yeah this guy is brilliant. :rolleyes:

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I can't believe I just heard that. How does this surprise me that Skeeterpuss brought this guys name up. This guy is a complete idiot.
 

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i can see how people like Timothy McVeigh
do what they do !

maybe Timothy McVeigh is a hero

people are sick and tired of our goverment giving away our country

time for a civil war:thefinger
 
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