Radical muslim killed- detroit

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Most the news has missed this one--

Radical imam killed in FBI raid

By Ed White, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

DETROIT - A man described as a leader of a radical Sunni Islam group in the U.S. was fatally shot Wednesday afternoon while resisting arrest and exchanging gunfire with federal agents, authorities said.
Agents at a warehouse in Dearborn were trying to arrest Luqman Ameen Abdullah, 53, on charges that included conspiracy to sell stolen goods and illegal possession and sale of firearms. Ten followers listed in a criminal complaint were also being rounded up in the area.
Abdullah refused to surrender, fired a weapon and was killed by gunfire from agents, FBI spokeswoman Sandra Berchtold said.
In a court filing, the FBI said Abdullah, also known as Christopher Thomas, was an imam of a Black Muslim radical group named Ummah whose primary mission is to establish an Islamic state within the United States.
No one was charged with terrorism. But Abdullah was "advocating and encouraging his followers to commit violent acts against the United States," FBI agent Gary Leone said in an affidavit.
"He regularly preaches anti-government and anti-law enforcement rhetoric," Leone said. "Abdullah and his followers have trained regularly in the use of firearms, and continue to train in martial arts and sword fighting."
Leone said members of the national group mostly are black and some converted to Islam while in prisons across the United States.
"Abdullah preaches that every Muslim should have a weapon, and should not be scared to use their weapon when needed," Leone wrote.
It was not immediately clear how many of the other 10 suspects were in custody.
The group believes that a separate Islamic state in the U.S. would be controlled by Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rap Brown, who is serving a life sentence in a federal prison in Colorado for shooting two police officers in Georgia in 2000, Leone said. Al-Amin, a veteran of the black power movement, started the group after he converted to Islam in prison.
"They're not taking their cues from overseas," said Jimmy Jones, a professor of world religions at Manhattanville College and a longtime Muslim prison chaplain. "This group is very much American born and bred."
The movement at one time was believed to include a couple of dozen mosques around the country. Ummah is now dwarfed in numbers and influence by other African-American Muslim groups, particularly the mainstream Sunnis who were led by Imam W.D. Mohammed, who recently died.
By evening, authorities still were working the scene near the Detroit-Dearborn border and the warehouse was surrounded by police tape.
The U.S. attorney's office said an FBI dog was also killed during the shootout.
Abdullah's mosque is in a brick duplex on a quiet, residential street in Detroit. A sign on the door in English and Arabic reads, in part, "There is no God but Allah."
Several men congregated on the porch Wednesday night and subsequently attacked a photographer from The Detroit News who was taking pictures from across the street. Ricardo Thomas had his camera equipment smashed and had a bloody lip from the attack.
Imad Hamad, regional director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in Dearborn, said the FBI had briefed him about Wednesday's raids and told him they were the result of a two-year investigation.
"We know that this is not something to be projected as something against Muslims," Hamad said.
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Associated Press writers David Runk, Corey Williams, David N. Goodman and Rachel Zoll contributed to this story.
 

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The FBI is probably under strict orders not to use the TERRORIST word in this administration, this P/C crap has to end, call a spade a spade.

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yeh your right skuknuts

you cracker
 

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this guy was associated with a iman type in Atlanta that is serving life in prison. He shot a cop that was serving a warrant on him. He killed him with a AK 47 when he knocked on the door.

glad one more is dead.

we should round them all up and send them to Russia or maybe China

you dont see those countrys letting these guys live there
 

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Great job by the FBI and other federal agencys. It really does not matter what one word was used to label this man. The only important thing is that they recognized this cat as a threat and they took care of business.

It seems odd to me that some here have a very strange obsession to take any story on any topic and relate it somehow to who happens to be the president. Given that type of thinking, I would guess that they must then give the current administration credit for keeping us safe from this evil man and his followers.
 

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You seem like a Racist to me, do you hate White people?

TIA.

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I love the white race

I just dislike stupid racist white people that are ignorant redneck kkk types.
 

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unfortunately,the guy killed a police dog during the shoot-out...

recruited in prison....what they call "prislam"..this is proof positive why we need to keep the captured terrorists separated from our disaffected prison populace...


in this case,more than happy to give our law enforcement and, by proxy,the pres. kudos for staying vigilant...:thumb: ..but please don`t mix them in with the general prison population...not even supermax...

why the hell isn`t lynne stewart in prison?....hard to believe..:(
 

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I tried to do search on post I put up a couple years ago about recruitment in prisons along with chart showing home grown muslims are largest segment in U.S.

Could find post but did locate chart again--
http://www.islam101.com/history/population2_usa.html



[SIZE=+2]U.S. Muslim Population Table[/SIZE]

<TABLE border=2 borderColorLight=#ffffff borderColorDark=#666666 width=470><TBODY><TR><TH width=50>[SIZE=-1]Ethnic Grouping[/SIZE] </TH><TH width=50>[SIZE=-1]Population 1000 (1990)[/SIZE] </TH><TH width=70>[SIZE=-1]Percent of Total Muslim Population[/SIZE] </TH><TH width=257>[SIZE=-1]Definition of Terms[/SIZE] </TH></TR><TR><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]African-[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]American[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]2,100[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=70 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]42.0[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=257><!--msthemelist--><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><!--msthemelist--><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=baseline width=42>
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</TD><TD vAlign=top width="100%">[SIZE=-1]African-Americans: Those persons of African descent native to the United States of America. [/SIZE]<!--msthemelist--></TD></TR><!--msthemelist--></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]South Asians[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]1,220[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=70 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]24.4[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=257><!--msthemelist--><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><!--msthemelist--><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=baseline width=42>
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</TD><TD vAlign=top width="100%">[SIZE=-1]South-Asians: Those of Indian/Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, or Afghan descent now residing in the United States as citizens or permanent residents. [/SIZE]<!--msthemelist--></TD></TR><!--msthemelist--></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Arabs[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]620[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=70 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]12.4[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=257><!--msthemelist--><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><!--msthemelist--><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=baseline width=42>
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</TD><TD vAlign=top width="100%">[SIZE=-1]Arabs: People from Arabic-speaking countries of the Middle East and North Africa who are permanent residents or citizens of the United States. [/SIZE]<!--msthemelist--></TD></TR><!--msthemelist--></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Africans[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]260[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=70 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]5.2[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=257><!--msthemelist--><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><!--msthemelist--><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=baseline width=42>
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</TD><TD vAlign=top width="100%">[SIZE=-1]Africans: People from the African continent who are citizens or permanent residents of the United States [/SIZE]<!--msthemelist--></TD></TR><!--msthemelist--></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Iranians[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]180[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=70 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]3.6[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=257><!--msthemelist--><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><!--msthemelist--><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=baseline width=42>
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</TD><TD vAlign=top width="100%">[SIZE=-1]Iranians: People of Persian descent, usually from Iran, who are citizens or permanent residents. [/SIZE]<!--msthemelist--></TD></TR><!--msthemelist--></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Turks[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]120[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=70 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]2.4[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=257><!--msthemelist--><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><!--msthemelist--><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=baseline width=42>
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</TD><TD vAlign=top width="100%">[SIZE=-1]Turkish: People of Turkish descent who are citizens ro permanent residents. [/SIZE]<!--msthemelist--></TD></TR><!--msthemelist--></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]South East Asians[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]100[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=70 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]2.0[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=257><!--msthemelist--><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><!--msthemelist--><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=baseline width=42>
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</TD><TD vAlign=top width="100%">[SIZE=-1]South East Asians: People of Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Indochina, or the Phillippines. [/SIZE]<!--msthemelist--></TD></TR><!--msthemelist--></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]American Whites[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]80[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=70 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]1.6[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=257><!--msthemelist--><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><!--msthemelist--><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=baseline width=42>
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</TD><TD vAlign=top width="100%">[SIZE=-1]American Whites: Those of West European descent, who are native to the United States. [/SIZE]<!--msthemelist--></TD></TR><!--msthemelist--></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]East Europeans[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]40[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=70 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]0.8[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=257><!--msthemelist--><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><!--msthemelist--><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=baseline width=42>
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</TD><TD vAlign=top width="100%">[SIZE=-1]East Europeans: People from various regions of Eastern Europe. [/SIZE]<!--msthemelist--></TD></TR><!--msthemelist--></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Other[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=50 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]280[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=70 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]5.6[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=257><!--msthemelist--><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><!--msthemelist--><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=baseline width=42>
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</TD><TD vAlign=top width="100%">[SIZE=-1]Other: All other groups. [/SIZE]<!--msthemelist--></TD></TR><!--msthemelist--></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TH width=50>[SIZE=-1]Totals[/SIZE] </TH><TH width=50>[SIZE=-1]5,000[/SIZE] </TH><TH width=70 colSpan=2>[SIZE=-1]100[/SIZE] </TH></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[SIZE=+2]Muslim State Population Table [/SIZE]

<TABLE border=2 borderColorLight=#ffffff borderColorDark=#666666 width=470><TBODY><TR><TH width=112>[SIZE=-1]State[/SIZE] </TH><TH width=112>[SIZE=-1]Muslim Population [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1](1,000)[/SIZE] </TH><TH width=112>[SIZE=-1]Percentage Total Muslim Population[/SIZE] </TH><TH width=112>[SIZE=-1]Percent of Total State Population[/SIZE] </TH></TR><TR><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]California[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]1,000[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]20.0[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]3.4[/SIZE] </TD></TR><TR><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]New York[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]800[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]16.0[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]4.7[/SIZE] </TD></TR><TR><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Illinois[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]420[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]8.4[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]3.6[/SIZE] </TD></TR><TR><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]New Jersey[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]200[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]4.0[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]2.5[/SIZE] </TD></TR><TR><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Indiana[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]180[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]3.6[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]3.2[/SIZE] </TD></TR><TR><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Michigan[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]170[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]3.4[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]1.8[/SIZE] </TD></TR><TR><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Virginia[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]150[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]3.0[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]2.4[/SIZE] </TD></TR><TR><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Texas[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]140[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]2.8[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]0.7[/SIZE] </TD></TR><TR><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Ohio[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]130[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]2.6[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]1.2[/SIZE] </TD></TR><TR><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]Maryland[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]70[/SIZE] </TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]1.4[/SIZE]</TD><TD width=112 align=middle>[SIZE=-1]1.4[/SIZE] </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
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