Do you support MADD?

[gardenweasel]

So it's ok to drink and drive if you're a 'social drinker'?

A person getting hit by a first time drink driver is ok, rather than a "dangerous drunk driver"?

Don't get me wrong, I'm hearing the overall sentiment of the thread...

...but...Flying in the face of the Constitution, they pressured the government into establishing sobriety checkpoints where you could be stopped by law enforcement officials with no probable cause whatsoever. They got the prosecutable definition of a DUI lowered to a BAC (blood alcohol content) of .12, then .1, and now, through a federal program that blackmails states by withholding highway funds, they have driven it down to .08. They fought hard and they won again and again.

...Not sure how anyone can argue/oppose this stuff.

Flying in the face of the Constitution??! :violin:

0 .12??!!!...Sorry Dr. H. Laurence Ross, but that's a LOT! :shrug:

Don't know the figures for alcohol related injuries over here (and as pointed out, they quite often lie anyway)...but the limit is 0.05. End of story.
Random breath (and now drug) testing (ie. Can get pulled over any time, anywhere), and quite often test a HUGE % of people leaving major events.

We drink more beer than just about anyone else in the world, yet fully accept and appreciate driving afterwards just isn't an option.

MADD does confess it?s very difficult to detect a driver who is at .08, as they probably won?t be driving any differently than a sober driver, so they?ve put forth policy statements declaring it will be necessary to put more roadblocks into place to catch these dangerous criminals.

Totally missing the point of failing to mention that by the time a policeman actually sees someone "drunk" swerving all over the road, it could well be too late.

Prevention is better than cure people.

It's the old story isn't it...If you've got nothing to hide, there's no need to be worried about being tested.
I'm sure we can all agree that a 2 minute breathaliser test stop is preferable to getting plowed into by an alcohol impaired guy missing a red light.

BTW, talking on phones while driving is illegal in Australia too, so no arguments there! :box2:

EDIT: Re-read that, and didn't mean to come across so strong...I mean, we all know it's more about revenue raising than safety...
...BUT, as I said earlier, it's amazing what mind set it puts you in.
Most people I know just don't do it...and I think it's a good thing that way. :shrug:

"It's the old story isn't it...If you've got nothing to hide, there's no need to be worried about being tested."


that`s what i like about my buddy mr c....he`s consistent......he said the same thing about the patriot act here in the states..if you`ve got nothing to hide,what`s the problem?....could save thousands of lives....:toast:

 

[dawgball]

What are the statistics for drinking and driving related accidents and deaths since the change?

 

[yyz]

I don't drink. I never have. But to use to old hack of, "If you have nothing to hide....." checkpoints should not bother you, is ridiculous.

What happens when your government starts checking for something you DO oppose?

 

[MrChristo]

"It's the old story isn't it...If you've got nothing to hide, there's no need to be worried about being tested."


that`s what i like about my buddy mr c....he`s consistent......he said the same thing about the patriot act here in the states..if you`ve got nothing to hide,what`s the problem?....could save thousands of lives....:toast:

:mj07:

Don't we need a password or something now to get into the Political Forum?

Ahhhh....those were the days! :mj06:

Actually, funny thing that I was talking to a guy at work during the week, Australian born and bred, but with a Southern European sounding name (and wears a beard )...
...was in Hawaii a couple of years back catching a domestic flight, and all hell broke loose when he couldn't produce an American drivers licence...



What happens when your government starts checking for something you DO oppose?

Just to clarify...they (police) don't pull over random individual cars...check points (for want of a better phrase) are set up on main roads, on random days...and definately set up on outlets from major events.
It's no secret.
The "government" are hardly tracking our every move! :142smilie
...nor are the police targeting specific groups of people.

But, just like everything else, there has to be a line drawn somewhere.
People will always argue about where...
...I guess in this case, I just don't see the big deal about NOT drinking and driving. :shrug:

Anyway, sorry about dragging things away from legitimately concerned citizens, becoming money thirsty corporate entities... :toast:

 

[gardenweasel]

:mj07:

Don't we need a password or something now to get into the Political Forum?

Ahhhh....those were the days! :mj06:

Actually, funny thing that I was talking to a guy at work during the week, Australian born and bred, but with a Southern European sounding name (and wears a beard )...
...was in Hawaii a couple of years back catching a domestic flight, and all hell broke loose when he couldn't produce an American drivers licence...



What happens when your government starts checking for something you DO oppose?

Just to clarify...they (police) don't pull over random individual cars...check points (for want of a better phrase) are set up on main roads, on random days...and definately set up on outlets from major events.
It's no secret.
The "government" are hardly tracking our every move!
...nor are the police targeting specific groups of people.

But, just like everything else, there has to be a line drawn somewhere.
People will always argue about where...
...I guess in this case, I just don't see the big deal about NOT drinking and driving.

Anyway, sorry about dragging things away from legitimately concerned citizens, becoming money thirsty corporate entities...


. :toast:

this is why jack won`t let us have nice things......:sadwave:

 

[loudog]

The only organization I support is NO MAAM

National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood