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Spurs may be worth a look if the line climbs down again to around 10 or less; Blazers off an emotional win after losing Pryzbilla to a season-ending injury. They'll regroup, but Spurs may subject them to a beatdown tonight.

McMillen now has 2 options in front of him: control-type ball that's so extreme that it includes the most minute minutiae or uptempo (Houston Rockets 2009 Version 2.0 perhaps?).
 

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Spurs may be worth a look if the line climbs down again to around 10 or less; Blazers off an emotional win after losing Pryzbilla to a season-ending injury. They'll regroup, but Spurs may subject them to a beatdown tonight.

B Roy suffered some sort of dislocated/sprained shoulder and was reported to have been in fair amount of pain. That's why the line jumped from 9.5 to 11. Can they really allow him to play with all that's been happening around the team ? Limited minutes if so... ?
 

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B Roy suffered some sort of dislocated/sprained shoulder and was reported to have been in fair amount of pain. That's why the line jumped from 9.5 to 11. Can they really allow him to play with all that's been happening around the team ? Limited minutes if so... ?

Saw the game - he dived for a loose ball and initially hurt his left shoulder, aggravated the injury when wrestling for a rebound a few plays shortly after that initial incident.

This team will have win or lose by committee given the circumstances and thus posits the improving Bayless and Aldridge as the focal points for now... If McMillen can get over his meddlesome control-freak tendencies, the team may be able to secure wins that looks well neigh impossible if they go uptempo.

Off-topic, just revisited Aaron Neville's "Hercules" recently - still a hard-hitting track...
 

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PLays

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Sorry I haven't been able to add to the discusiion guys, just been busy with work and the Holidays. Once Christmas is over, will hopefully be able to be an assett like so many of you are.

Here's what I'm playing tonight. heading out in a bit to see the Illini-Mizzou bball game. Go Illini!!! :toast: And good luck to all of you tonight.


Locked in

Rockets +8.5
TWolves +4
Utah-Miami over 200.
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Think the Hawks are beginning to come back down to earth somewhat - hot starts from the start of the season illusory for certain teams (and ought to be revised in light of the fact that it's around the 1/4 mark). The Hawks are better, but not sure if they are SIGNIFICANTLY so...

Very much agree. I have liked ATL this season, but feel that their rep has basically been built against mostly (not all) inferior competition and they still need to prove they can play with the better teams.
 

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regading the NOR under, I like the under, but doesn't seem like anyone else here does, or is concerned over the line move.

Anyone have any info on NOR not slowing it down like they have been since last season against higher scoring / fast paced opponents (it hasn't worked particularly well for them, which is why I'm concerned they might consider changing?

team=Hornets and H and oA(points)>103 and season>=2008
SU: 8-9 (-5.7)
ATS: 5-12-0 (-9.0) avg line: -3.3
O/U: 2-15-0 (-12.6) avg total: 204.4

This year
SU: 4-2 (-1.8)
ATS: 3-3-0 (-3.1) avg line: -1.2
O/U: 1-5-0 (-10.7) avg total: 207.8
 

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Agree the Hornets at home seem to want to control the pace and I don't see them wanting to try and run with the Warriors. Think they try the defensive approach at home. Also like Chumps under play.
 

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NCAA GEM OF THE DAY: 17-14 Umass/BC Under 146.5.

BC's defense will limit the Minutemen in this game, looking for a 69-62 type game as BC likes to run the halfcourt offense and will limit the Minutemen in opportunities to score with lockdown defense.

Other Plays: Agree w/Ools on BYU -7, riding UNLV as well with -7 and the Over 148 Mizzou/Ill game.

NBA: No way I can bet on the Nets as a fav so I'll take MN +4, also taking Orl/Hou Under 200, my numbers have 193 in this game.

Wish I could write more but I'm in Kentucky on a bad connection (in-laws internet), might as well tie up a string and some tin cans (shoulda married someone from the city HAHAHAAHA)
 

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Great time today

Great time today

Me and my son went out shopping for a bit. My plays are

Spurs -10
Kings +6
Bucks -7

and Under in Atlanta and OKC BOLTA and

God Bless and Merry Christmas!!!!!!
 

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looks like we got the under in GS/NO game...actually took the 2nd 1/2 under as well!

Any one tailing on the BYU game - i just found an internet broadcast at byu.tv
 

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Nice little turd laid down by Sactown in OT. :wtf:

Youth-laden squad that's been overachieving experienced mental cramping when game got tight and went strictly one-on-one - Cleveland not necessarily a vastly superior team, but far more veteran-savvy and able to exploit the nerves of the Kings; what really should be taken into account is Jason Thompson's bone-headed throw to Jon Brockman at the end of the 3rd quarter, leading to a turnover and a Varejao deuce to close the period. That basket ensures that the Cavaliers see overtime when calculating the point tally at the end of regulation - you can be doubly confident that Westphal will have a quiet word or 2 w/ Thompson about that moronic scenario.
 

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Spurs -10
Kings +6
Bucks -7

40 -

Tough break, here are some post-game analysis notes - providing them in case they provide value/utility for you moving forward.

Spurs:

Brittle yet again - this team has issues/problems w/ young, athletic squads who play at least a modicum of defense and rebound. Duncah, Ginobili, and Parker all looked old and the younger personnel they possess aren't of the elite caliber of those 3. This team is no longer a 1 or 1A, more like a 2.

Expect them to have a challenge w/ a Memphis (similar to Portland), but an easier time w/ Charlotte (far less athletic) or a Golden State (no defense).

Kings:

Already spoke about the folly of youth and how a lack of veteran experience will cost you down the stretch. This in no way condones the return of Kevin Martin nor Francisco Garcia - both of whom stall the ball and ought to be traded for younger, less selfish assets. These are the growing pains that this team will undergo - against lesser squads, they'll be able to eke out victories (e.g. Milwaukee), not so versus elite (e.g. Cleveland). You can be pretty sure that Westphal will be providing instruction about not being myopic come a similar situation such as overtime and continuing to play the game as before (which had stood them in good stead up to the extra period).

Milwaukee:

Don't think it's a coincidence that the Bucks have been on a losing streak ever since Michael Redd returned to the lineup - he's a volume shooter (8 of 21 in the loss to Washington) and kills the offensive movement of the team. The Bucks would be well prudent to move his contract if at all possible. He would make a fine addition to a team of cast-offs that would include the aforementioned Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia complemented by the likes of Allen Iverson.

Random Miscellany:

As much as I'd like to posit Arenas in the group mentioned, his post-game response to Saunders's benching of his starting 5 against Philadelphia in the 3rd quarter prevents me from doing so - in short, he admitted/conceded that it was more than deserving. He looks to have gotten a bit more lift back in his game and is trying to remedy his scorer's mentality to adapt to Saunders's ball movement offense. The Wizards aren't necessarily as bad their record hints at given the 1/4 mark of the season.

Phoenix, Atlanta, Dallas - these are among the teams that one ought to revise an opinion of - not surprisingly, Dallas and Phoenix are older squads and the wear of the season is looking like it's beginning to exact a toll on 'em. Atlanta's most important player is Josh Smith, not Joe Johnson.

Portland has heart - they may not be the most creative offensive team in the league (and they're certainly not b/c of McMillen), but you cannot discount their commitment; notorious for being able to surmount a 1st half deficit 2 seasons back, they continue to demonstrate a resiliency and resolve that's unbecoming of a lot of today's celebrity contest in the NBA. Is Roy a volume shooter? Definitely, but unlike Redd (and Joe Johnson) and more like Kobe, he only begins to look for his shot if/when the team is desperate for it as opposed to stuffing his stat sheet.

Happy holidays to all...
 
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Rough Night but Thanks

Rough Night but Thanks

40 -

Tough break, here are some post-game analysis notes - providing them in case they provide value/utility for you moving forward.

Spurs:

Brittle yet again - this team has issues/problems w/ young, athletic squads who play at least a modicum of defense and rebound. Duncah, Ginobili, and Parker all looked old and the younger personnel they possess aren't of the elite caliber of those 3. This team is no longer a 1 or 1A, more like a 2.

Expect them to have a challenge w/ a Memphis (similar to Portland), but an easier time w/ Charlotte (far less athletic) or a Golden State (no defense).

Kings:

Already spoke about the folly of youth and how a lack of veteran experience will cost you down the stretch. This in no way condones the return of Kevin Martin nor Francisco Garcia - both of whom stall the ball and ought to be traded for younger, less selfish assets. These are the growing pains that this team will undergo - against lesser squads, they'll be able to eke out victories (e.g. Milwaukee), not so versus elite (e.g. Cleveland). You can be pretty sure that Westphal will be providing instruction about not being myopic come a similar situation such as overtime and continuing to play the game as before (which had stood them in good stead up to the extra period).

Milwaukee:

Don't think it's a coincidence that the Bucks have been on a losing streak ever since Michael Redd returned to the lineup - he's a volume shooter (8 of 21 in the loss to Washington) and kills the offensive movement of the team. The Bucks would be well prudent to move his contract if at all possible. He would make a fine addition to a team of cast-offs that would include the aforementioned Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia complemented by the likes of Allen Iverson.

Random Miscellany:

As much as I'd like to posit Arenas in the group mentioned, his post-game response to Saunders's benching of his starting 5 against Philadelphia in the 3rd quarter prevents me from doing so - in short, he admitted/conceded that it was more than deserving. He looks to have gotten a bit more lift back in his game and is trying to remedy his scorer's mentality to adapt to Saunders's ball movement offense. The Wizards aren't necessarily as bad their record hints at given the 1/4 mark of the season.

Phoenix, Atlanta, Dallas - these are among the teams that one ought to revise an opinion of - not surprisingly, Dallas and Phoenix are older squads and the wear of the season is looking like it's beginning to exact a toll on 'em. Atlanta's most important player is Josh Smith, not Joe Johnson.

Portland has heart - they may not be the most creative offensive team in the league (and they're certainly not b/c of McMillen), but you cannot discount their commitment; notorious for being able to surmount a 1st half deficit 2 seasons back, they continue to demonstrate a resiliency and resolve that's unbecoming of a lot of today's celebrity contest in the NBA. Is Roy a volume shooter? Definitely, but unlike Redd (and Joe Johnson) and more like Kobe, he only begins to look for his shot if/when the team is desperate for it as opposed to stuffing his stat sheet.

Happy holidays to all...

I guess this is why Ax always had one play.
 

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NCAA GEM OF THE DAY: 17-14 Umass/BC Under 146.5.

BC's defense will limit the Minutemen in this game, looking for a 69-62 type game as BC likes to run the halfcourt offense and will limit the Minutemen in opportunities to score with lockdown defense.

Other Plays: Agree w/Ools on BYU -7, riding UNLV as well with -7 and the Over 148 Mizzou/Ill game.

NBA: No way I can bet on the Nets as a fav so I'll take MN +4, also taking Orl/Hou Under 200, my numbers have 193 in this game.

Wish I could write more but I'm in Kentucky on a bad connection (in-laws internet), might as well tie up a string and some tin cans (shoulda married someone from the city HAHAHAAHA)


Nice 6-0 to celebrate christmas with :00hour
 
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