This shit is out of control ! Close the fucking borders already !

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TIME FOR THE US GOVERNMENT TO ISSUE A GOVERNMENT ID FOR ALL US CITIZENS. LET THEM RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS. DONT ALLOW THE TRASH ON AIRPLANES. THE COUNTRY IS IN BIG TROUBLE.
 

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Shawn :stfu: already your shit is old.
 
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haha

you got thrown in the politics forum

next step is to the dumpster and that is like not good.

here you have to contribute to some political or religious comments

its not too much to ask for supporting your thread

:142smilie :nono:


what do you guys think about the health care reform bill now going forward ?

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I fly to Portland,Oregon today. I am not looking forward to the DOTFA at the airport, if I have time to give a SITREP on the CHARLIE FOXTROT the donkeys at TSA pull off, I will report in.

I will be having my Christmas with my kids so computer time will be limited :nono:
 

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If I can still read a book and use my Ipod, I am okay with whatever BS they plan on doing. The thing that is frustrating to me is that all of their countermeasures are tied to past incidents. There really is no forward thinking. I have been wondering when someone would try to start a fire on a plane, because that seems like the easiest way to fuck up a plane without appearing like you are going to be up to no good on your way through security. You can probably pick up matches anywhere past the security check point along with somethng flammable (other than simple paper). For that matter, you could soak a book in gasoline and let it dry out before taking it through security, pick up some matches at Chili's Too and create a little trouble on board.

I read a book recently about why profiling isn't as effective as it is credited. However, I think we should be putting the majority of our focus on the type of person(s) that is starting the trouble (hello arabs and african nationals). The theory states that Al-Queda will just look for another type of person outside the profile....but, doesn't that open up opportunities to root these fuckers out? When they start recruiting, they are bound to run into someone willing to rat on them.

I guess I just get peeved when I see a 75yr old white woman getting the random selection frisk job while Mohammed slides through the inspection process without issue. It is time to start hiring some really smart people to look at this issue (social economists, psychologists, military strategists, etc)...maybe even an outside security company because what we're doing now is not working.
 

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This is a terrorist attack on our country once again by al Queda

it only shows that we still need to be in Afghanistan to root these fawkers out. Getting Bin Laden would be the biggest and best thing to happen. Hopefully that bastid is dead already.

We have to continue to hit them. They think nothing of finding ways to hit us.
 

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This is a terrorist attack on our country once again by al Queda

it only shows that we still need to be in Afghanistan to root these fawkers out. Getting Bin Laden would be the biggest and best thing to happen. Hopefully that bastid is dead already.

We have to continue to hit them. They think nothing of finding ways to hit us.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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This is a terrorist attack on our country once again by al Queda

it only shows that we still need to be in Afghanistan to root these fawkers out. Getting Bin Laden would be the biggest and best thing to happen. Hopefully that bastid is dead already.

We have to continue to hit them. They think nothing of finding ways to hit us.

We should not be in Afghanistan anymore. Give me a break.
 

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If I can still read a book and use my Ipod, I am okay with whatever BS they plan on doing. The thing that is frustrating to me is that all of their countermeasures are tied to past incidents. There really is no forward thinking. I have been wondering when someone would try to start a fire on a plane, because that seems like the easiest way to fuck up a plane without appearing like you are going to be up to no good on your way through security. You can probably pick up matches anywhere past the security check point along with somethng flammable (other than simple paper). For that matter, you could soak a book in gasoline and let it dry out before taking it through security, pick up some matches at Chili's Too and create a little trouble on board.

I read a book recently about why profiling isn't as effective as it is credited. However, I think we should be putting the majority of our focus on the type of person(s) that is starting the trouble (hello arabs and african nationals). The theory states that Al-Queda will just look for another type of person outside the profile....but, doesn't that open up opportunities to root these fuckers out? When they start recruiting, they are bound to run into someone willing to rat on them.

I guess I just get peeved when I see a 75yr old white woman getting the random selection frisk job while Mohammed slides through the inspection process without issue. It is time to start hiring some really smart people to look at this issue (social economists, psychologists, military strategists, etc)...maybe even an outside security company because what we're doing now is not working.

well put Garry

It is impossible to keep some from slipping through the cracks--our greatest tool to date is knowing with 99% certainty the ethnicity of the enemy--to not exploit it is insane.

granted there will be inconvenience to many that are innocent but believe the alternative is not an option. I'd be profiling to the nth degree.
 

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Wayne, at this point, I have to agree, as much as it pains me. Every time I hear of these instances, I immediately think, "how tough for those that are of this ethnicity that have nothing to do with the effort."

But with every scenario, you have to stop and think that every serious attack on our country is this ethnic group. And now we have a person of privilege that has every reason to not do what he did, and he does it anyway.

Common sense has to prevail in these situations, and at some point we have to say, as a country, we have to prevent any issues that will possibly kill innocent people. Muslims are killing people, and we see repeated reports that they are here and are going to try to do just that. I realize it is the radical Muslims that are doing it, but in many cases, these individuals are not considered radical before they act, or otherwise are worrisome to our way of life - and then they try to blow things up.

I'm sorry, but at some point, we have to put it back on the ethnic group that is responsible for all of these attacks. No doubt many will suffer, but maybe, in some way, it will cause a backlash against the people that should have a backlash against them.
 

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If I can still read a book and use my Ipod, I am okay with whatever BS they plan on doing. The thing that is frustrating to me is that all of their countermeasures are tied to past incidents. There really is no forward thinking. .
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I read that there will be no ipods or books on seats or lap in last hour of flight.

forward thinking is that the next attempt will be with a ipod device set up to look normal.

that makes you a suspect gmroz
 

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Wayne, at this point, I have to agree, as much as it pains me. Every time I hear of these instances, I immediately think, "how tough for those that are of this ethnicity that have nothing to do with the effort."

But with every scenario, you have to stop and think that every serious attack on our country is this ethnic group. And now we have a person of privilege that has every reason to not do what he did, and he does it anyway.

Common sense has to prevail in these situations, and at some point we have to say, as a country, we have to prevent any issues that will possibly kill innocent people. Muslims are killing people, and we see repeated reports that they are here and are going to try to do just that. I realize it is the radical Muslims that are doing it, but in many cases, these individuals are not considered radical before they act, or otherwise are worrisome to our way of life - and then they try to blow things up.

I'm sorry, but at some point, we have to put it back on the ethnic group that is responsible for all of these attacks. No doubt many will suffer, but maybe, in some way, it will cause a backlash against the people that should have a backlash against them.

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agree with all this.

we should have American security in every airport that allows flights to the US.

they should be the last resort for spot checking these fawkers. No passport ....
no visa......
no ligitimate school credential
kicked out of Britians program

send this guy back to Yemen soon.

no ticket for you
 

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well put Garry

It is impossible to keep some from slipping through the cracks--our greatest tool to date is knowing with 99% certainty the ethnicity of the enemy--to not exploit it is insane.

granted there will be inconvenience to many that are innocent but believe the alternative is not an option. I'd be profiling to the nth degree.

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agree on profiling.

they have to be stopped at the point of entry

fawk their rights. It aint no more hassle than us taking off our shoes or going through a full body detector.

let them eat fish
 

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agree on profiling.

they have to be stopped at the point of entry

fawk their rights. It aint no more hassle than us taking off our shoes or going through a full body detector.

let them eat fish

Its not about violating their rights. Their rights should not be violated. However, we should be paying more attention to the guy sweating with a beard than the old grandma. Of course we still need to check some grandmas out too.
 
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