SUPERBOWL XLV
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You have to be kidding me.
Don't you have a diaper to change, or do you like sitting in your own shit?
Don't you have a diaper to change, or do you like sitting in your own shit?
this has nothing to do with my opinion.
heres the link:
https://sports.bodog.com/sports-betting/football-futures.jsp
Manning throws an interception Again,.......Saints win back to back Superbowls :00hour :00hour :0corn :0corn
I checked your profile, 20 years old???? Are freaking kidding me son? your on here talking all this smack and the ink has not even dried on your birth certificate yet?
I have been handicapping longer than you have been on this earth.....
you do not know your ass from another hole in the ground..... Be a fan, and grow up and be a man and except the fact that your team lost.
A hard head makes for a soft ass........... Gl next year, :shrug: I guess
being older does not make you wiser betone. Congrats on being older than me and capping forever but I think you missed the point of this thread. The point was not my opinion, it was vegas'
http://sports.bodog.com/sports-betting/football-futures.jsp
http://sports.bodog.com/sports-betting/football-futures.jsp
No CC, the point is you start a million threads that are WORTHLESS. And since that's what you like to do, people respond the way they do to you. And not only are the majority of your threads worthless, they border on being spam for the Colts. Just shut the hell up already
Thought cc would enjoy this
Thought cc would enjoy this
:mj07: Big Ben towers over Manning in playoffs
By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
Feb 9, 4:22 pm EST
At the risk of being a heretic (or worse, completely agreeing with good friend Dutch Wydo), there is a case to be made that Ben Roethlisberger(notes) is a better quarterback than Peyton Manning(notes).
Certainly in the playoffs.
Before you send that email calling me crazy or mocking me only days after I wrote that Manning is the fourth-best quarterback of all time, let?s put this in perspective. It is impossible to truly measure Roethlisberger against Manning or Tom Brady(notes) just yet.
More From Jason ColeShockey's second chance ends in redemption Feb 8, 2010 Rice, Smith let the tears flow Feb 6, 2010 ADVERTISEMENT
Ben Roethlisberger celebrates his second Super Bowl win.
(Andy Lyons/Getty Images)
Roethlisberger has played six years. His regular-season stats (only two seasons with more than 18 touchdown passes) pale in comparison to those of Manning, Brady and many other quarterbacks. In short, so much of his career is yet to be played that it?s silly to rank him even among the top 25 quarterbacks of all time.
Bottom line, it would take serious guts to draft Roethlisberger ahead of Manning at this point of their respective careers.
Furthermore, there isn?t a defensive coordinator in the league who won?t tell you that the challenge of facing Manning is much tougher from a game-plan aspect than facing Roethlisberger.
?There?s nothing you can do against Peyton that he hasn?t seen,? said Detroit defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, who has spent the past 15 years in the NFL in that role with four teams and is one of the most respected defensive minds in the league. ?He can figure out anything you?re trying to do and find the perfect play to get you. You constantly have to change what you do and hope that he just makes some mistake along the way.
?With Roethlisberger, he?s a completely different kind of player. He?s unique because he?s so big and so tough that you hit him and he just shakes it off and keeps looking downfield. He?s great, but figuring out how to defend isn?t the hard part. The hard part is executing the plan.?
Roethlisberger has also been backed by one of the great defenses of this decade. But mentioning the Steelers? defense means that you must also credit the Colts for surrounding Manning with great offensive weapons and amazing consistency on the coaching staff.
The bottom line is this: Roethlisberger is currently 8-2 in the playoffs, has two Super Bowl rings ? including his great final drive against Arizona ? and a quarterback rating of 87.2 in the playoffs. That includes his bad performance in the Super Bowl win against Seattle, a bad first half in a playoff loss to Jacksonville and a typically bad playoff game against New England in the 2004 playoffs when he was a rookie.
For Manning, he is now 9-9 in the playoffs over his 12-year career, has one Super Bowl win, is coming off a bad finish against New Orleans and has a quarterback rating of 95.5 in the playoffs. If you break down the stats further, you?ll note that the Colts have asked Manning to do a lot more (38.4 attempts per game) than the Steelers have of Roethlisberger (28.8 attempts).
But the bottom line is that Roethlisberger has succeeded (he was great in the 2008 playoffs and also in the 2005 playoffs before the Super Bowl against Seattle) and Manning has struggled.
:violin:
Thought cc would enjoy this
:mj07: Big Ben towers over Manning in playoffs
By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
Feb 9, 4:22 pm EST
At the risk of being a heretic (or worse, completely agreeing with good friend Dutch Wydo), there is a case to be made that Ben Roethlisberger(notes) is a better quarterback than Peyton Manning(notes).
Certainly in the playoffs.
Before you send that email calling me crazy or mocking me only days after I wrote that Manning is the fourth-best quarterback of all time, let?s put this in perspective. It is impossible to truly measure Roethlisberger against Manning or Tom Brady(notes) just yet.
More From Jason ColeShockey's second chance ends in redemption Feb 8, 2010 Rice, Smith let the tears flow Feb 6, 2010 ADVERTISEMENT
Ben Roethlisberger celebrates his second Super Bowl win.
(Andy Lyons/Getty Images)
Roethlisberger has played six years. His regular-season stats (only two seasons with more than 18 touchdown passes) pale in comparison to those of Manning, Brady and many other quarterbacks. In short, so much of his career is yet to be played that it?s silly to rank him even among the top 25 quarterbacks of all time.
Bottom line, it would take serious guts to draft Roethlisberger ahead of Manning at this point of their respective careers.
Furthermore, there isn?t a defensive coordinator in the league who won?t tell you that the challenge of facing Manning is much tougher from a game-plan aspect than facing Roethlisberger.
?There?s nothing you can do against Peyton that he hasn?t seen,? said Detroit defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, who has spent the past 15 years in the NFL in that role with four teams and is one of the most respected defensive minds in the league. ?He can figure out anything you?re trying to do and find the perfect play to get you. You constantly have to change what you do and hope that he just makes some mistake along the way.
?With Roethlisberger, he?s a completely different kind of player. He?s unique because he?s so big and so tough that you hit him and he just shakes it off and keeps looking downfield. He?s great, but figuring out how to defend isn?t the hard part. The hard part is executing the plan.?
Roethlisberger has also been backed by one of the great defenses of this decade. But mentioning the Steelers? defense means that you must also credit the Colts for surrounding Manning with great offensive weapons and amazing consistency on the coaching staff.
The bottom line is this: Roethlisberger is currently 8-2 in the playoffs, has two Super Bowl rings ? including his great final drive against Arizona ? and a quarterback rating of 87.2 in the playoffs. That includes his bad performance in the Super Bowl win against Seattle, a bad first half in a playoff loss to Jacksonville and a typically bad playoff game against New England in the 2004 playoffs when he was a rookie.
For Manning, he is now 9-9 in the playoffs over his 12-year career, has one Super Bowl win, is coming off a bad finish against New Orleans and has a quarterback rating of 95.5 in the playoffs. If you break down the stats further, you?ll note that the Colts have asked Manning to do a lot more (38.4 attempts per game) than the Steelers have of Roethlisberger (28.8 attempts).
But the bottom line is that Roethlisberger has succeeded (he was great in the 2008 playoffs and also in the 2005 playoffs before the Super Bowl against Seattle) and Manning has struggled.
:violin:
hmmm ask yourself this....
would the steelers be better with manning instead of ben?
most would say yes
would the colts be better with ben instead of manning?
most would say no
would the steelers be better with manning instead of ben?
most would say yes
would the colts be better with ben instead of manning?
most would say no
Hmmm ask yourself this,
would Madjacks be better off without you here?
most would say yes
Would anyone miss having you around?
most would say no
would Madjacks be better off without you here?
most would say yes
Would anyone miss having you around?
most would say no
:mj07: Big Ben towers over Manning in playoffs
By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
Feb 9, 4:22 pm EST
At the risk of being a heretic (or worse, completely agreeing with good friend Dutch Wydo), there is a case to be made that Ben Roethlisberger(notes) is a better quarterback than Peyton Manning(notes).
Certainly in the playoffs.
Before you send that email calling me crazy or mocking me only days after I wrote that Manning is the fourth-best quarterback of all time, let?s put this in perspective. It is impossible to truly measure Roethlisberger against Manning or Tom Brady(notes) just yet.
More From Jason ColeShockey's second chance ends in redemption Feb 8, 2010 Rice, Smith let the tears flow Feb 6, 2010 ADVERTISEMENT
Ben Roethlisberger celebrates his second Super Bowl win.
(Andy Lyons/Getty Images)
Roethlisberger has played six years. His regular-season stats (only two seasons with more than 18 touchdown passes) pale in comparison to those of Manning, Brady and many other quarterbacks. In short, so much of his career is yet to be played that it?s silly to rank him even among the top 25 quarterbacks of all time.
Bottom line, it would take serious guts to draft Roethlisberger ahead of Manning at this point of their respective careers.
Furthermore, there isn?t a defensive coordinator in the league who won?t tell you that the challenge of facing Manning is much tougher from a game-plan aspect than facing Roethlisberger.
?There?s nothing you can do against Peyton that he hasn?t seen,? said Detroit defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, who has spent the past 15 years in the NFL in that role with four teams and is one of the most respected defensive minds in the league. ?He can figure out anything you?re trying to do and find the perfect play to get you. You constantly have to change what you do and hope that he just makes some mistake along the way.
?With Roethlisberger, he?s a completely different kind of player. He?s unique because he?s so big and so tough that you hit him and he just shakes it off and keeps looking downfield. He?s great, but figuring out how to defend isn?t the hard part. The hard part is executing the plan.?
Roethlisberger has also been backed by one of the great defenses of this decade. But mentioning the Steelers? defense means that you must also credit the Colts for surrounding Manning with great offensive weapons and amazing consistency on the coaching staff.
The bottom line is this: Roethlisberger is currently 8-2 in the playoffs, has two Super Bowl rings ? including his great final drive against Arizona ? and a quarterback rating of 87.2 in the playoffs. That includes his bad performance in the Super Bowl win against Seattle, a bad first half in a playoff loss to Jacksonville and a typically bad playoff game against New England in the 2004 playoffs when he was a rookie.
For Manning, he is now 9-9 in the playoffs over his 12-year career, has one Super Bowl win, is coming off a bad finish against New Orleans and has a quarterback rating of 95.5 in the playoffs. If you break down the stats further, you?ll note that the Colts have asked Manning to do a lot more (38.4 attempts per game) than the Steelers have of Roethlisberger (28.8 attempts).
But the bottom line is that Roethlisberger has succeeded (he was great in the 2008 playoffs and also in the 2005 playoffs before the Super Bowl against Seattle) and Manning has struggled.
:violin:
Brady has them both beat.
