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Hell no !!

Hell no !!

Obama tells so many lies .
He said all the right things when running for president and is it not obvious that he has lied about pratically all of them.Too many lies to name them all .
Continues to spy on civillians.
Lied about signing statements.
Lied about the fact that they would be transparency.
No lobbyist in his administration, more lies .
Just look at who is running the treasury and the FED , this is proof in itself that the change that he promised is one big LIE. Goldman Sachs is running the finacial system and they have put you to sleep with the same old bullshit.
His war policy alone is enough for me to look for someone else to take his place.
He ran against Bush and the Bush policies and I'll be damn if he is not carrying out the Bush policies.
Why is it that the country is spending billions in these illegal wars in a time that the country is broke, so much waste of life and treasure and you don't hear much about this in the main stream news media.In matter of fact the wars are bigger and there is no end in sight.
You know what the real scary part is ,who in this day and time when you need a great American to lead the country , who will step forward and lead ?
The candidates that are out there are the same old bunch of ner do wells that will surely be the same old tired repeats of the past !!
 
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I think it's too early to tell, but the next year or so will make a big difference. It will also make a big difference who the other choices are. I'm intrigued by some of the possibilities. I'm not convinced he would get my vote next election, depending on what he comes up with moving forward. I also don't discount the possibility of a democrat making a strong run against him, which is unusual for a sitting president to deal with. Nothing would surprise me with Hillary still out there.

Will be interesting to see how this Independent party, tea party and republican party outlook shakes out. Could be a good candidate or two in the mix. I think it will be important for a strong independent candidate to step forward soon to really make some inroads on really competing.
 

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Based on what he has done (or hasn't done) I don't think he deserves the nomination of his own party.

I will vote 3rd party again unless he grows a pair and starts pushing things through...but I don't see that happening.
 

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I think we all need someone to tell us what to do, since we obviously can't make our own decisions:shrug:

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he needs to be named dictator for his life

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hope and change...:00hour

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Are you fucking crazy, he deserves nothing but a kick in the ass on his way out of Washington..:sadwave:
 

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Are you fucking crazy, he deserves nothing but a kick in the ass on his way out of Washington..:mj07: :mj07:
 

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Will be interesting to see how this Independent party, tea party and republican party outlook shakes out. Could be a good candidate or two in the mix. I think it will be important for a strong independent candidate to step forward soon to really make some inroads on really competing.

After this weekends strong showing by Ron Paul, it will very interesting for sure. I am just waiting to see how the media is going to treat him.
 

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only way he gets elected a second term is if he moves to the middle like Slick Willy, I dont see this happening
 

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Based on what he has done (or hasn't done) I don't think he deserves the nomination of his own party.

I will vote 3rd party again unless he grows a pair and starts pushing things through...but I don't see that happening.

you really want him to push things through:shrug:

:sadwave:
 

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I think it's too early to tell, but the next year or so will make a big difference. It will also make a big difference who the other choices are. I'm intrigued by some of the possibilities. I'm not convinced he would get my vote next election, depending on what he comes up with moving forward. I also don't discount the possibility of a democrat making a strong run against him, which is unusual for a sitting president to deal with. Nothing would surprise me with Hillary still out there.

Will be interesting to see how this Independent party, tea party and republican party outlook shakes out. Could be a good candidate or two in the mix. I think it will be important for a strong independent candidate to step forward soon to really make some inroads on really competing.
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I agree with this.. Its funny that only one person in this thread has a good intellectual post..:shrug:
 

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I disagree on not been long enough to determine. I can go down long list of campaign pledges he totally lied about.

a few
Bipartisan
uniting americans
transparency
putting up bills for viewing voting
not raise taxes on middle income a dime
cut pork line by line
no washington as usual
no lobbyist in whitehouse

--considering he has lied on practically every issue--and wants to blame everyone but himself-

I think he doesn't deserve 2nd on character issues alone.

--however if Rebs win back majority in congress which could be an unbelievable possibilty--I would have no objection to a moderate dem as pres.

Having both--a pres and huge majority in congress - is recipe for disater and both parties included.
 

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I think it's too early to tell, but the next year or so will make a big difference. It will also make a big difference who the other choices are. I'm intrigued by some of the possibilities. I'm not convinced he would get my vote next election, depending on what he comes up with moving forward. I also don't discount the possibility of a democrat making a strong run against him, which is unusual for a sitting president to deal with. Nothing would surprise me with Hillary still out there.

Will be interesting to see how this Independent party, tea party and republican party outlook shakes out. Could be a good candidate or two in the mix. I think it will be important for a strong independent candidate to step forward soon to really make some inroads on really competing.

I have a thought on your comment on interesting to see how this Independent party or tea party shakes out.
Our government is no longer our government.
By the people , for the people does not apply today .
Our leaders answer to a higher power and it is not GOD !!
The bankers along with the Largest corporations run the show.
They changed the law for a reason, they saw a possibility that a third PARTY might rise up and make a run for the white house , so the law to let an unlimited amount of money be used to stop this third party candidate was passed. They will not let a third party win, maybe a house seat , never the power of the WHITE HOUSE .
Ron Paul or any other third party candidate will be labeled a lunatic or some crazy nut job by the main stream media , which we all know are owned by the corporations. End of story .
 
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Thanks illuminati

Thanks illuminati

and again HT hits it out of the park :toast:

I wonder why ? That I have all of these thoughts about our government leaders and they are all bad .
You don't think about it today, but your grandkids have been sold into the Chinese slave market.
If you will look back over the last 50 years and think about the shit that has happened and take a hard look at what things will be like in 50 years from now . It should scare the SHIT out of you !!
 

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I wonder why ? That I have all of these thoughts about our government leaders and they are all bad .
You don't think about it today, but your grandkids have been sold into the Chinese slave market.
If you will look back over the last 50 years and think about the shit that has happened and take a hard look at what things will be like in 50 years from now . It should scare the SHIT out of you !!

Believe me you,

My ass is so tight you couldn't pound a greased BB up my ass with a Ball Peen Hammer :scared

When will the the Chinese come to collect ? :shrug: It's a messy world out there and far too many people prefer to acknowledge how truly fucked we are. I really don't care about being called a nut anymore, I have been called worse. But I am the diligent ant preparing for the long winter while the jerkoff grasshoppers are running around with blinders on. So keep ingesting your flouride and aspartame. Keep taking your government madated poisoness shots. Keep eating your GMO foods, all of these things will be your downfall. Keep ridiculing us who believe in the 2nd Ammendment, you will come find us later, for food water and protection. Call me crazy, sure, but I will be laughing at you from the outside of the wire.

:toast:
 

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I wonder why ? That I have all of these thoughts about our government leaders and they are all bad .
You don't think about it today, but your grandkids have been sold into the Chinese slave market.
If you will look back over the last 50 years and think about the shit that has happened and take a hard look at what things will be like in 50 years from now . It should scare the SHIT out of you !!

Its gonna be fucking scary and I don't think its gonna take 50 years!
 
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