LA boycotts Arizona

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lets hope they boycott KY and rest of country also :)

Perfect example of liberalism at work --and they are trying to take it to a national level.


http://www.newsweek.com/id/237640

George F. Will

Trickle-Down Misery in L.A.

Mayor Villaraigosa's nightmare numbers.



From the magazine issue dated May 17, 2010

Los Angeles?to get from downtown to the residence of the man who, in 2005, became the first Hispanic elected mayor since 1870, you drive through a sliver of Korea. With 125,000 people packed into 2.7 of the city's 469 square miles, Koreatown is typical of this polyglot city where more than 100 languages are spoken and nothing is typical except recentness: 46 percent of the residents are foreign-born.
So when His Honor Antonio Villaraigosa was invited to appear at a recent rally protesting Arizona's law concerning illegal immigrants, he went. But he stipulated: "I want American flags." He knows that protesting immigrants should not carry the flags of Mexico and other nations where they have chosen not to live.

The city is chin-deep in California's trickle-down misery, and last week Richard Riordan, who was L.A. mayor from 1993 to 2001, coauthored with Alexander Rubalcava?an investment adviser?a Wall Street Journal column declaring the city's fiscal crisis "terminal." They say Villaraigosa should "face the fact" that "between now and 2014 the city will likely declare bankruptcy." Villaraigosa says that will not happen. But look what has happened.
For 15 years Villaraigosa was an organizer for the Service Employees International Union and the city's teachers' union. Now he is trying to cope with, and partially undo, largesse for unionized public employees: "I have to sign the checks on the front, not just the back."

Riordan and Rubalcava say two numbers?8 percent and 5,000?define the city's crisis. L.A. has conveniently but unrealistically assumed 8 percent annual growth of the assets of the city's pension funds. The two main funds' actual growth over the last decade have been 3.5 percent and 2.8 percent. And Villaraigosa added 5,000 people to the city's payroll in his first term.

Nationwide, government employees are most of what remains of "defined benefit" America. More than 80 percent of government workers have defined benefits?as opposed to defined-contribution?pension plans. Only about 20 percent of private-sector workers have defined-benefit plans. California's parlous condition owes much to burdensome health-care and pension promises negotiated with public employees' unions, promises that are suffocating the state's economic growth.
Riordan and Rubalcava suggest replacing defined-benefit pensions with 401(k) accounts for new public employees. But when another product of America's immigrant culture, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, tried to do that, public employees' unions squashed the idea. Riordan and Rubalcava say the retirement age for public employees should be raised from 55 to 65, employees should pay more than the maximum of 9 percent of their salaries for pensions, and the city should end subsidies of up to $1,200 a month for health insurance for those who retire before becoming eligible for Medicare. But even his ideas for nibbling at the edges of the fiscal problem by privatizing the zoo, the convention center, and city parking lots are opposed by the unions.

They are government organized as an interest group to lobby itself for ever-larger portions of wealth extracted by the taxing power from the private sector. Increasingly, government workers are the electoral base of the party of government. So Villaraigosa must live with the arithmetic of interest-group liberalism. The federal government, he says, can run deficits and print money; the state government (supposedly) must balance the budget but can push burdens down onto cities. There, he says, "you have 10 cookies in the cookie jar and every interest wants all 10."
The nightmare numbers include the state's unemployment rate (12.6 percent)?it is higher than the nation's (9.9)?and the city's rate (13.5), which is higher than the state's. The city's long-term success depends on its schools, in many of which most of the children come from homes without fathers, and in some of which, Villaraigosa says, 40 percent of the children are in foster homes. He has little control over the school system and, anyway, unions oppose radical reforms. He would like to emulate the education reforms of former Florida governor Jeb Bush, a recent visitor to the mayor's residence, but, holding his fingers three inches apart to suggest the thickness of the standard contract with the teachers' union, Villaraigosa calls the union "the most powerful defender of the status quo."
The mayor's residence is near Wilshire Boulevard, which is named for a socialist who made and lost several fortunes before dying destitute. The life of Henry Wilshire is a cautionary tale for this city where the climate is usually Mediterranean and the fiscal climate is now Greek.
George Will is also the author of One Man's America: The Pleasures and Provocations of Our Singular Nation and With a Happy Eye But . . .: America and the World, 1997?200
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Evidently your not by yourself Raymond

In response to LA Arizona said fine we'll cut off your power--personally I just raise their rates to offset boycott and then some--

They had recent poll with over 200,000 voting and counting in effort to get national pulse on issue--here are results so far--

the question--
Do You Agree With Arizona's Threats to Pull Plug on L.A.?


Do You Agree With Fight-Boycott-With-Boycott Response?




<LABEL class=pds-feedback-label for=PDI_feedback1>Yes. Arizona exercised a state's right to protect its citizens -- L.A.'s way off-base, and this sends the message loud and clear. 93% (216,561 votes) </LABEL>


<LABEL class=pds-feedback-label for=PDI_feedback2>No. Arizona is now as over-the-top as L.A. -- let's grow up, people. 4% (8,248 votes) </LABEL>


<LABEL class=pds-feedback-label for=PDI_feedback3>Not sure, but it's an interesting response -- let's see what happens. 3% (6,752 votes) </LABEL>


<LABEL class=pds-feedback-label for=PDI_feedback4>Other (post a comment) <1% (1,101 votes) </LABEL>


Total Votes: 232,662

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"They" had a poll? Who had the poll that you are referencing, Wayne? Just curious, I am pretty much in support of the law, as far as I can tell.
 

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"They" had a poll? Who had the poll that you are referencing, Wayne? Just curious, I am pretty much in support of the law, as far as I can tell.

Still 93% with 320,000+ votes and counting now--
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/17/decidearizona-official-threatens-pull-plug-la/

of course the Dem congress has diff view --have a barf bag handy when you watch this short video clip:nooo:

http://www.breitbart.tv/calderon-before-congress-az-immigration-law-carries-great-amount-of-risk/
 

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Ah, the high response was from a Fox News poll? Did you actually type that the pollsters were trying to get a "national" pulse on the issue with a straight face? Pretty much why I asked - I wanted to get the perspective of who was polling and who they were polling. I should have known they were one in the same.

I sincerely doubt that ANY diverse group of Americans - a real pulse of them - are 93% in favor of this issue, one way or another. I think we've had a pretty good discussion around here on this issue of late, but it didn't take long to the "fair and balanced" poll into the mix. Now we can add "national pulse" to make it "The Fair And Balanced National Pulse Fox News Poll." Beautiful.
 

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I sincerely doubt that ANY diverse group of Americans - a real pulse of them - are 93% in favor of this issue, one way or another. Now we can add "national pulse" to make it "The Fair And Balanced National Pulse Fox News Poll." Beautiful.
You couldn't get 93% of Americans to agree on what day of the week it is. It's comforting to know that DTGumby and Fox News have their collective finger on the national pulse though. :142smilie

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Still 93% with 320,000+ votes and counting now--
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/17/decidearizona-official-threatens-pull-plug-la/

of course the Dem congress has diff view --have a barf bag handy when you watch this short video clip:nooo:

http://www.breitbart.tv/calderon-before-congress-az-immigration-law-carries-great-amount-of-risk/


Would these 93% be the same who believe the American Flag should not be flown in front of schools becuase of safety reasons?

FOX News Suggests Banning the American Flag
 

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You couldn't get 93% of Americans to agree on what day of the week it is. It's comforting to know that DTGumby and Fox News have their collective finger on the national pulse though. :142smilie

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I can use poll from cable news org that has more viewers than the others combined with participants in 100's of thousands or I can go to your Huffers post and post their with handful of participants. You must have took Liberal logic 101. :)
 

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Still 93% with 320,000+ votes and counting now--
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/17/decidearizona-official-threatens-pull-plug-la/

of course the Dem congress has diff view --have a barf bag handy when you watch this short video clip:nooo:

http://www.breitbart.tv/calderon-before-congress-az-immigration-law-carries-great-amount-of-risk/

I wonder if the Pres of Mexico took questions--or if he did the Obawana two step and made his statement as if it was fact and scurried off before he could be confronted with the grift.

Would have like to asked him this question after he was finished rambling about how we mistreat those (illegals) "contributing" to our society.

Would have went like this--

Psst hey Speedy Gonzalas
If thats the way you really feel--

Why is illegal immigration a criminal offense in Mexico--punishable by fines-2 years jail time and deportation if you think its such a good idea.
 
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