The Belmont looks like a pick up race...

Morris

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Just heard that no horse that was in the Derby or Preakness will run all three legs of the triple crown.

Doesn't say much for racing except for the fact that maybe the owners and trainers are not interested in the big spring races and are giving their horses some rest.
 

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not many run all 3 legs anyway

think there were only 5 that went from the derby to the preakness

its a weak bunch of 3 year olds and the belmont will be a below avg group.....that said, there's still money to be made!
 

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Ice Box should be the heavy fav...cant see him taking it though. A lot of people look at deep closers for the Belmont because of the long distance but that usually seems to not be the case and it seems like its a horse who has a stalking trip that gets it.

I would like First Dude for this, I think his run style is great for this race but coming back 2 weeks after a very tough Preakness is going to make me look elsewhere.
 

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Ice Box should be the heavy fav...cant see him taking it though. A lot of people look at deep closers for the Belmont because of the long distance but that usually seems to not be the case and it seems like its a horse who has a stalking trip that gets it.

I would like First Dude for this, I think his run style is great for this race but coming back 2 weeks after a very tough Preakness is going to make me look elsewhere.

I agree Ice Box will be the public fav off his Derby run. Alot of people were saying wait till the Belmont and this horse wins easy.

Let's figure this one out and get a price.
 

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Ice Box has been waitin for em. He will be the heavy favorite and he will put them in the deep freeze!
Look to the undercard for prices, not this race.

I've picked 4 of the last 5 Belmont winners (for the non-believers.) :0008
 

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im not sure how ice box will be the easy favorite since first dude is in the race.....who i think will be the favorite.
 

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Ice Box is the 3-1 morning line favorite, First Dude is 7-2.

I would look outside of Ice Box here.

I am loving First Dude. This horse is a monster and has a gigantic stride. No trainer in this race is going to want to go out and challenge First Dude for the lead and press him. He will put them away early because with every one of his giant strides, those other horses are taking 2.

Post 11 wont hurt because he should be able to hustle out to the lead or right off it if someone from the inside like Uptowncharlybrown is bold enough to take the lead.

I'd also look at Fly Down as he already has some experience over the Belmont track and just won a race last month here.

Drosselmeyer is another one training good and could take a step forward.

If a dead closer wins this race, I'd be VERY surprised.
 

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Agree with you here Dan. Ice Box will be the fav off the Derby run but I'm looking at First Dude to beat him too. More studying to do. GL
 

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Here is my run down.....

#1 Dave In Dixie...havent seen much here and only start on dirt was sub par at best. No thanks.


#2 Spangled Star....in the money 6 of 8 but most of those game at Laurel Park. Had a good race in the Withers but was only going a mile and flatened out at the end. Never raced over a mile and a 16th. No thanks.


#3 Uptowncharlybrown...hear hes getting stronger every day and he should be up close to the lead but this distance is a real question. I dont think he wants to tackle First Dude so maybe hell sit right off the pace. Rajiv knows the track and has been hitting the board at Belmont...I cant see him winning, but maybe top 4?


#4 Make Music For Me....very interesting here, especially if the track gets sloppy. Had a lot of traffic problems in the derby and still put up his highest career speed figure in the slop. Had to make an 8 wide run in the derby, if he gets a better trip I think he can surely hit the board.


#5 Fly Down....won the Dwyer going away, and beating Drosselmeyer by 6 lengths in that one. Has 2 races over this Belmont track, getting a 1st and a 3rd. Definitely worth big time consideration and has a great jock on him.


#6 Ice Box....will be the favorite, and if the track is sloppy will be a VERY short price. I think hes in the money for sure but at such a small price, I am definitely looking elsewhere to win. He was a dead closer in the Derby and those types dont seem to win in the Belmont.


#7 Drosselmeyer....this one always seems to be let down, but he might be ready to run a huge one and is training well. Consistently in the mony (7 for 8) but what catches my eye is the jock change. Mike Smith gets on board after Kent Desormeaux was on board for 7 of 8 previous starts. I think Smith might be a bit more patient than Desormeaux and wait to make a move. He was beaten by 6 in the Dwyer by Fly Down, but he broke slow and got blocked at the 3/8 pole. I think hes got a great chance to hit the board.


#8 Game On Dude....should be up close to the lead if not on it, but I dont think hes got the stamina to go a mile and a half. Longest race was the Fla Derby at a mile and 1/8th and faltered finishing 7th, 10 lengths back. No thanks.


#9 Stately Victor....troubled trip in the Derby, like most had, but this one has a nice late kick. Son of Ghostzapper but has only hit the board in 3 of 9 races. I think hes out classed here, but it seems some like him at a price.


#10 Stay Put....I think at 20/1 he is a great horse to include in some exotics. Hes never been beaten more than 3 lengths and in the money 5 of 7. His last race was a win over the slop in the 1st race of Derby Day, and optional claimer.


#11 First Dude....an absolute monster of a horse. Seems to be getting better and better and is a very strong horse. Has a huge stride and has the ability to be on the lead where I dont think he will get much pressure because I doubt these trainers will want to go head to head with him early...he will put them away. He is a very game horse, as everyone saw in the Preakness, and if the track is sloppy, his pedigree all but assures hell love the slop. This is definitely my top pick right now.


#12 Interactif....this is my wild card. He has been training extremely well and has a jock who knows this Belmont circuit. The post position is a big downside as he will need to be taken back, but if he gets some luck along the way to washout the poor post, I think hes up in the money. Hes had bad luck of the draw, getting the outside post in some big races, but I think he is really ready to fire a huge effort.



Im throwing out 1,2,3, and 8 right now and trying to narrow it down between the rest.
 
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