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Thought these might be popular after Gumby's recently getting caught in 2 more lies and another I mispoke.

OBAMA NOW DEFENDS HEALTH INSURANCE MANDATE AS A TAX...

In thinking about it- been quite a while since I saw O sticker--

 

[kcwolf]

DTB, fill me in on the latest Obama lies. I don't subscribe to the NYT.

Is it similiar to what McConnell lied about today, Obama promising a cap of 8% unemployment. I always wanted to see that video of Obama saying such, maybe you could find it for me?

Thanks.

 

[Chadman]

I guess I'll rely on Politifact.com, who keeps an eye on ALL politicians, and has an Obama scorecard. While you'd like everyone to believe all Obama does is lie, the numbers from an objective source that keeps track of this stuff fairly are:

Tracking Obama?s promises:
119 - Promise Kept
37 - Compromise
19 - Promise Broken

While I'm not happy with 19 broken promises, the ratio of 19 to 119 in politics really isn't that unacceptable in this day and age. And, compared to what you'd have us believe, I think worthy of mention.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

DTB, fill me in on the latest Obama lies. I don't subscribe to the NYT.

Is it similiar to what McConnell lied about today, Obama promising a cap of 8% unemployment. I always wanted to see that video of Obama saying such, maybe you could find it for me?

Thanks.

I guess you missed the --will not raise tax 1 dime on middle class -he said on numerous occasions

--and I just put last week the interview where Gumby swore it wasn't a tax--

one more time--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL7ak__MGyw

Now it a tax!!!!

I told you he would have problems when he could no longer vote present.

From campaign financing
-to gitmo
-to wars
-to taxes
-to unemployment
-bi paritsanship
-transparency
--uniting america

- its been one grift after another-

--about what you expect from someone who never ran anything in his life other than his family budget:SIB

 

[Trench]

I guess I'll rely on Politifact.com, who keeps an eye on ALL politicians, and has an Obama scorecard. While you'd like everyone to believe all Obama does is lie, the numbers from an objective source that keeps track of this stuff fairly are:

Tracking Obama?s promises:
119 - Promise Kept
37 - Compromise
19 - Promise Broken

While I'm not happy with 19 broken promises, the ratio of 19 to 119 in politics really isn't that unacceptable in this day and age. And, compared to what you'd have us believe, I think worthy of mention.

Yes, I think I'll subscribe to the Politifact.com objective assessment of Obama's
performance over the view of a warped and frustated old man...

___DTGumby________Dickus Maximus___

Notice the resemblence? :142smilie

Trench

 

[kcwolf]

Politifact also ssays Obama never mentioned an 8% unemployment cap, which is mentioned way too often here and by the rebs. I was starting to think it was true, so sent the question to politifact myself.

Guess it comes from the same political playbook about the bullshit black panther stuff, Acorn, and on and on.

I see more and more tea party members breaking ranks with the rebs, and Dick Armey and his lying Freedomworks' tea party is all confused.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

I guess you missed the --will not raise tax 1 dime on middle class -he said on numerous occasions

--and I just put last week the interview where Gumby swore it wasn't a tax--

one more time--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL7ak__MGyw

Now it a tax!!!!

I told you he would have problems when he could no longer vote present.

From campaign financing
-to gitmo
-to wars
-to taxes
-to unemployment
-bi paritsanship
-transparency
--uniting america

- its been one grift after another-

--about what you expect from someone who never ran anything in his life other than his family budget:SIB

What I don't get about this whole thing is how a broke ass Kentucky hillbilly continues to vote against his own interests. Can someone help me?

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Politifact also ssays Obama never mentioned an 8% unemployment cap, which is mentioned way too often here and by the rebs. I was starting to think it was true, so sent the question to politifact myself.

Guess it comes from the same political playbook about the bullshit black panther stuff, Acorn, and on and on.

I see more and more tea party members breaking ranks with the rebs, and Dick Armey and his lying Freedomworks' tea party is all confused.

I don't know whether O said it or not but his admin passed stimulus in middle of night under the pretense that it would keep unemployment under 8%

Whether it was him or admin or both I would disgree that it remotely could be characterized as a lie. As no one knew what results would be be--it was error in speculation-not a lie. More like admin getting F in econ 101.

Would be similiar to those on the Bush lied wmd. He and most dems (i'll provide quotes if needed) acknowledged intelligence pointed to Hussein (Saddam) having bio weapons. The fact that they didn't was not a lie but an error in judgement of intelligence.

To me a lie is blatant deception and can be classified in diff degrees.

for instance- O's pledge on campaign finance--it came down to going back on his word or more money--His values were established when he opted for money over his word.
There were numerous campaign promises broken , as with all politicians--some he had control over--others he did not and to me that would determine which were lies and which weren't.



So you ask me if I think they were in error in saying O lied on 8%--I would say they were definately in error but that just my opinion.

We all have diff views on whats a lie.

I have seen many with opposite views from me--those who ranted for years Bush lied yet claimed the most famous lie in history -a felonious finger pointing scowl-lying under oath resulting in impeachment/disbarrment--was "just a blow job."

 

[Lumi]

Yes, I think I'll subscribe to the Politifact.com objective assessment of Obama's
performance over the view of a warped and frustated old man...

___DTGumby________Dickus Maximus___

Notice the resemblence? :142smilie

Trench

Trench,

What are the odds that many people know who the actor on the left is and what movie that photo is taken from?

 

[bleedingpurple]

DTB----

What would McCain be doing differently? You make it sound like if the Repubs had office and control of congress that the country would be doing much better when in fact they started this shit sandwhich years ago. :shrug:

The repubs like to spend money too. They just like to tell you differently.. They know that most bible thumpers and hillbillys will listen and believe. Remember, "read my lips." And you really think the weapons of mass destruction was just poor intelligence?? You are a devote gullible follower.

 

[Lumi]

 

[Chadman]

"...an error in judgement of intelligence."

Now THAT's a new spin on an old joke...

:facepalm:

 

[Lumi]

"...an error in judgement of intelligence."

Now THAT's a new spin on an old joke...

:facepalm:

are you done cleaning your monitor Chad?

 

[Chadman]

Luckily I was not drinking anything (for a change) when perusing the material in here, so monitor is dry.

The thought occurs to me that it matters quite a bit when considering being incorrect, lying, bullshitting, judging, etc., between something like whether an expenditure is considered a tax or not and whether someone has WMD's or not.

The difference is that some people have to pay more money for awhile compared to some people having to die, and others having to pay more money for a while. The difference? People dying, based on being incorrect, lying, bullshitting, judging, etc.

I understand not wanting to pay taxes, but some relative perspective might come in handy from time to time, dontcha think?

And there is a difference when you are the people responsible for putting forth the information that's incorrect, lying, bullshitting, judging, etc., and then holding other people accounting for their reactions to it after the fact. Or doing that from afar, as some do here.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Luckily I was not drinking anything (for a change) when perusing the material in here, so monitor is dry.

The thought occurs to me that it matters quite a bit when considering being incorrect, lying, bullshitting, judging, etc., between something like whether an expenditure is considered a tax or not and whether someone has WMD's or not.

The difference is that some people have to pay more money for awhile compared to some people having to die, and others having to pay more money for a while. The difference? People dying, based on being incorrect, lying, bullshitting, judging, etc.

I understand not wanting to pay taxes, but some relative perspective might come in handy from time to time, dontcha think?

And there is a difference when you are the people responsible for putting forth the information that's incorrect, lying, bullshitting, judging, etc., and then holding other people accounting for their reactions to it after the fact. Or doing that from afar, as some do here.

I believe that would come under new thread title --hyprocrite

you know like complaining about deaths in war under one admn--but when next one who promised to end wars -close gitmo-escalates them and sets records for deaths in afgan--not a peep???

I must assume its not the deeds but rather the party in charge some have a prob with--
What say you?

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

I believe that would come under new thread title --hyprocrite

What the hell is a hyprocrite? :mj07:

 

[Chadman]

I would agree that most people have a general problem when the party who does not share their own personal belief system is in power. So, I can give you that.

As for the war thing, I personally wish these wars would end, but at least I understand the supposed theory behind the wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan. You know the ones, the ones going after the terrorists, not the ones going after whatever it is you choose to believe we were going after, like Iraq. As I've said, I can appreciate an escalation in certain areas of Afghanistan, with the theory of doing as much damage to terror camps and ne-er-do-wells prior to ending the campaign in a reasonable timeframe, unlike Iraq.

I personally can understand the logic and planning going on in the two mentioned wars, but if we do not follow through with pulling out as planned, I will have a real problem with it. Unlike you, who had no problem with attacking and occupying Iraq, and are fine with our soldiers standing guard there watching over our multi-billion dollar embassy, huge air base, and oil interests - INDEFINITELY.

Hypocritical? Nah. I don't think either of us are, either - I think our positions are pretty clear. Hopefully Obama will continue with his plan, which to this point I - and many - understand.

The thing is - the real Catch-22 for Obama and any sitting president in many respects - is the other side is unhappy with your positions to begin with, would have a problem if you change those positions (even if it's closer to the person or party's ideals), and you can't really win. Damned no matter what you say, and what you do. So I don't think Obama cares too much what the ALWAYS SAY NO brigade thinks, most of the time.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Sorry if it looked like I was referring to you Chad--I meant in general--your too nice a guy to discuss this subject with.

I have very bad vibes from the days before your time when when media and liberals were beating the civilian deaths in Viet Nam drum and never said squat bout the greatest holocaust in history of mankind occurred as result of our withdrawal.

We even went back on our word at paris peace talks on sending them supplies. They were defenseless and slaughtered. Was truely a time when we lied and millions died.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Was truely a time when we lied and millions died.

Lets be honest here. You don't really give a fuck about human life. Don't insult anyone here by trying to preach about the value of a human life. We all know your game.

 

[Trench]

I have very bad vibes from the days before your time when when media and liberals were beating the civilian deaths in Viet Nam drum and never said squat bout the greatest holocaust in history of mankind occurred as result of our withdrawal.

The "greatest holocaust in the history of mankind" did not occur in Cambodia.

Don't tell me you're a Holocaust denier too? :shrug:

Trench