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DOGS THAT BARK

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Sheez- thought there would rampant outrage from the left as they had for GW --:shrug:

Apparently it wasn't the war after all--

Hypocrisy is the act of persistently pretending to hold beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually hold. Hypocrisy is thus a kind of lie.



House voting big war funds, despite Afghan leaks (AP)

AP - The House prepared Tuesday to send President Barack Obama a major war-funding increase of $33 billion to pay for his troop surge in Afghanistan, unmoved by the leaking of classified military documents that portray a military effort struggling between 2004 and 2009 against a strengthening insurgency.
 

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Actually I was about to comment about how there is a big uproar about spending about the same amount of money for unemployment but not a peep about an illegal war that is doing us no good. Other than killing soldiers and innocent civilians. Good job everybody.
 

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Sheez- thought there would rampant outrage from the left as they had for GW --:shrug:

Apparently it wasn't the war after all--

Hypocrisy is the act of persistently pretending to hold beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually hold. Hypocrisy is thus a kind of lie.
Tramp and I have been against these bullshit wars from day one. The only hypocrisy here is you pretending otherwise.

Keep on :00hour for our government to continue sending our countrymen off to die meaningless deaths and to continue funding our $Trillion wars. Keep :00hour the slaughter of innocent civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan, just like you did with Iraq.

In other words, just keep doin' the ol' Neocon Shuffle... :0064
 

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Sheez- thought there would rampant outrage from the left as they had for GW --:shrug:

Apparently it wasn't the war after all--

Hypocrisy is the act of persistently pretending to hold beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually hold. Hypocrisy is thus a kind of lie.



House voting big war funds, despite Afghan leaks (AP)

AP - The House prepared Tuesday to send President Barack Obama a major war-funding increase of $33 billion to pay for his troop surge in Afghanistan, unmoved by the leaking of classified military documents that portray a military effort struggling between 2004 and 2009 against a strengthening insurgency.
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Audit: US cannot account for $8.7B in Iraqi funds
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BAGHDAD ? A U.S. audit has found that the Pentagon cannot account for over 95 percent of $9.1 billion in Iraq reconstruction money, spotlighting Iraqi complaints that there is little to show for the massive funds pumped into their cash-strapped, war-ravaged nation.

The $8.7 billion in question was Iraqi money managed by the Pentagon, not part of the $53 billion that Congress has allocated for rebuilding. It's cash that Iraq, which relies on volatile oil revenues to fuel its spending, can ill afford to lose.

"Iraq should take legal action to get back this huge amount of money," said Sabah al-Saedi, chairman of the Parliamentary Integrity Committee. The money "should be spent for rebuilding the country and providing services for this poor nation."

The report by the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction accused the Defense Department of lax oversight and weak controls, though not fraud.

"The breakdown in controls left the funds vulnerable to inappropriate uses and undetected loss," the audit said.

The Pentagon has repeatedly come under fire for apparent mismanagement of the reconstruction effort ? as have Iraqi officials themselves.

Seven years after the U.S.-led invasion, electricity service is spotty, with generation capacity falling far short of demand. Fuel shortages are common and unemployment remains high, a testament to the country's inability to create new jobs or attract foreign investors.

Complaints surfaced from the start of the war in 2003, when soldiers failed to secure banks, armories and other facilities against looters. Since then the allegations have only multiplied, including investigations of fraud, awarding of contracts without the required government bidding process and allowing contractors to charge exorbitant fees with little oversight, or oversight that came too late.

But the latest report comes at a particularly critical time for Iraq. Four months after inconclusive elections, a new government has yet to be formed, raising fears that insurgents will tap into the political vacuum to stir sectarian unrest.

In a sign that insurgents are still intent on igniting sectarian violence, at least six people were killed and dozens more wounded when a female suicide bomber blew herself up near a checkpoint in the holy city of Karbala, local police said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

Thousands of Shiite pilgrims are converging on the city, 50 miles (80 kilometers) south of Baghdad, for an important religious holiday marking the birth of a Shiite saint known as the "Hidden Imam" who disappeared in the ninth century. Such mass displays of devotion by Shiites have often been targeted by Sunni extremists.

Iraqi lawmakers met Tuesday, but for the second time this month failed to convene a parliament session, leaving wide open the question of when the new government will take shape.

Underscoring its financial challenges, the International Monetary Fund in March approved a $3.6 billion loan to help Iraq meet its obligations. Iraq is projected to run a deficit through 2011, according to analysts, with a possibility of a surplus following that hinging on oil prices.

Iraq took a financial hit in 2008 as oil prices plummeted on the back of the global financial meltdown. While those prices have since rebounded, Iraq remains at the mercy of international oil markets, with revenues from petroleum sales accounting for over 90 percent of its government budget.

The $9.1 billion in question came from the Development Fund for Iraq, which was set up by the U.N. Security Council in 2003. The DFI includes revenues from Iraq's oil and gas exports, as well as frozen Iraqi assets and surplus funds from the defunct, Saddam Hussein-era U.N. oil-for-food program.

Iraq had given the U.S. authorization to tap into the fund, which is held in New York, for humanitarian and reconstruction efforts, withdrawing that approval in December 2007.

With the establishment of the Coalition Provisional Authority, which ran Iraq shortly after the start of the U.S. invasion in 2003 until mid-2004, about $20 billion was placed into the account. The $9.1 billion audited by the Iraq reconstruction inspector general were funds withdrawn from that account between 2004 and 2007.

The report found that the Defense Department could not "readily account for its obligations, expenditures and remaining balances associated" with the DFI. At issue was $8.7 billion, or 95 percent of the withdrawn funds.

Of this amount, the Pentagon could not account at all for $2.6 billion, according to the audit.

Tracing the rest of the money is difficult because of a combination of lax financial controls and management, the failure to designate an organization to oversee the spending and the failure to set up and deposit the funds in special accounts, as required by the Treasury Department.

The Defense Department, in responses attached to the audit, said it agreed with the report's recommendations to establish better guidelines for monitoring such funds, including appointing an oversight organization mostly likely by November.

The failure to properly manage billions in reconstruction funds has also hobbled the troubled U.S.-led effort to rebuild Afghanistan. About $60 billion have poured into Afghanistan since 2001 in hopes of bringing electricity, clean water, jobs, roads and education to the crippled country.

The U.S. alone has committed $51 billion to the project since 2001, and plans to raise the stakes to $71 billion over the next year ? more than it has spent on reconstruction in Iraq since 2003.

An Associated Press investigation showed that the results so far ? or lack of them ? threaten to do more harm than good. The number of Afghans with access to electricity has increased from 6 percent in 2001 to only about 10 percent now, far short of the goal of providing power to 65 percent of urban and 25 percent of rural households by the end of this year.

As an example of the problems, a $100 million diesel-fueled power plant was built with the goal of delivering electricity to more than 500,000 residents of the capital, Kabul. The plant's costs tripled to $305 million as construction lagged a year behind schedule. The plant now often sits idle because the Afghans were able to import cheaper power from neighboring Uzbekistan before the plant came online.
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where is hypocrisy ?

How DTBlackgumby can howl about some welfare woman trying to make it and not say anything
about this kind of money going down the toilet.

Dont you even think for a minute where this money might be ?

I know I know

you dont give a chit since it dont directly affect you

well neither does the welfare person making 400 bucks a month that you bitch about so avidly.

yeh crickets

your a joke
 

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Too many are afraid to get off, It won't stop people, so brace yourself for the truth, tuck and roll when you hit the ground. The nuttiest mother fucker on this board might have actually, not by accident mind you, know WTF he has been talking about ! Not the boy who cried wolf, NO, the boy who kept crying wolf, wolf, wolf, BIG FUCKING WOLF ASSHOLES ! :facepalm: Ah never mind, while the towns people are busy fucking the cat, I will get mey gear squared away. :SIB And I have plenty of it, make your jokes, blah, blah, blah. But there is one thing that was missing in that ant and the grasshopper story, do you know what it is? I will give you a hint, besides being an asshole, what else do I like to do. SHUT UP MUFFY, LET THE ADULTS TALK ! THE SLURPEE MACHINE IS BROKEN, GO FIX IT !

There are those who have, and those who want.
Which one are you? I notice, but it doesn't matter that very few read the post on Americas Ruling Class. http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print If you don't believe in the "They have tons of shit" and the "we have some shit" and "we really would like to have some shit" I have a '74 Ford Pinto Wagon I want to sell ya. :sadwave:
 

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:shrug: Cannot in good conscious disagree with your point, Dogs.
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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Thank you Smurphy:0008

Lets take different venue today and see if we can rile the Obama Green Jobs liberals.

I see that Rutgers U has just completed one of largest solar panel jobs ever in U.S. -a 10 million dollar project. The prob is with all out regs and taxes U.S. panel makers were not competative. China says thank you Gumby. :)

Rutgers' Chinese Solar Panels Show Clean-Energy Shift

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<CITE class=byline>Yingli Green Energy Holding Co., China?s second-largest solar-panel maker, supplied the $10 million project. Yingli is one of several Chinese manufacturers that have slashed costs to reduce global prices for solar modules by about 50 percent in two years. The drive made them more affordable for buyers from Rutgers to Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the biggest U.S. retailer. </CITE>
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Lumi

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Thank you Smurphy:0008

Lets take different venue today and see if we can rile the Obama Green Jobs liberals.

I see that Rutgers U has just completed one of largest solar panel jobs ever in U.S. -a 10 million dollar project. The prob is with all out regs and taxes U.S. panel makers were not competative. China says thank you Gumby. :)

Rutgers' Chinese Solar Panels Show Clean-Energy Shift

<CITE class=byline>By Stuart Biggs - <SCRIPT type=text/javascript>document.write(dateFormat(new Date(1279885778000),"mmm d, yyyy h:MM TT Z"));</SCRIPT>Jul 23, 2010 6:49 AM CDT Fri Jul 23 11:49:38 UTC 2010</CITE>
<CITE class=byline></CITE>
<CITE class=byline>Yingli Green Energy Holding Co., China?s second-largest solar-panel maker, supplied the $10 million project. Yingli is one of several Chinese manufacturers that have slashed costs to reduce global prices for solar modules by about 50 percent in two years. The drive made them more affordable for buyers from Rutgers to Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the biggest U.S. retailer. </CITE>
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I built a microwave with 2 panes of glass and a black cement mixing trough. Cost, approx. $20.00, it is solar powered, does that count?
 
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