When Corporations Own Congress

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A Dead-End Cycle

When Corporations Own Congress

By SHAMUS COOKE

With the November elections quickly approaching, the majority of Americans will be thinking one thing: "Who cares?? This apathy isn't due to ignorance, as some accuse. Rather, working people's disinterest in the two party system implies intelligence: millions of people understand that both the Democrats and Republicans will not represent their interests in Congress.

This begs the question: Whom does the two party system work for? The answer was recently given by the mainstream The New York Times, who gave the nation an insiders peek on how corporations "lobby" (buy) congressmen. The article explains how giant corporations ? from Wall-mart to weapons manufacturers ? are planning on shifting their hiring practices for lobbyists, from Democratic to Republican ex-congressmen in preparation for the Republicans gaining seats in the upcoming November elections:

"Lobbyists, political consultants and recruiters all say that the going rate for Republicans ? particularly current and former House staff members ? has risen significantly in just the last few weeks, with salaries beginning at $300,000 and going as high as $1million for private sector [corporate lobbyist] positions." (September 9, 2010)

Congressmen who have recently retired make the perfect lobbyists: they still have good friends in Congress, with many of these friends owing them political favors; they have connections to foreign Presidents and Kings; and they also have celebrity status that gives good PR to the corporations.

Often, these congressmen have done favors for the corporation that is now hiring them, meaning, that the corporations are rewarding the congressmen for services rendered while in office, offering them million dollar lobbyist jobs (or seats on the corporate board of directors) that requires little to no work.

The same New York Times article revealed that the pay for 13,000 lobbyists [!] currently bribing Congress is a combined $3.5 billion. It was also explained how some lobbying firms keep an equal amount of Democrats and Republicans on hand, so they can be prepared for any eventuality in the elections.

This phenomenon is more than a little un-democratic: when millions of people vote for a candidate, the outcomes are quickly manipulated and controlled before the election even happens.

Interestingly, the corporate-directed Wall Street Journal wrote a similar article in 2008, as the Democrats had begun to dominate politics in Washington:

"Washington's $3 billion lobbying industry has begun shedding Republican staffers [politicians], snapping up Democratic operatives [politicians] and entire firms, a shift that started even before Tuesday's ballots were counted and Democrat Barack Obama captured the presidency." (November 5, 2008)

This article was appropriately titled ?Lobbyists Put Democrats Out Front as Winds Shift.?

The corporate money flows from party to party, so that the same goals are achieved: higher profits for corporations. The sums thrown at these politicians are mind boggling: the Associated Press reported that the corporate-orientated Chamber of Commerce spent "... nearly $190 million since Barack Obama became president in January 2009." (August 21, 2010)

These numbers explain the "deeper" differences between Democrats and Republicans ? money. Each party is a machine that vies for power because this power carries with it vast sums of corporate money. The longer a party is in office and the more connections it makes, the more its net worth to corporations, the more that these rewards can be spread to the different layers of the party. There is indeed a real-life, nasty fight between the Republican and Democratic Parties to dominate this corporate money.

One "interest group" that ex-Congressmen don't work for is labor unions. Unions spend millions of dollars to help get Democrats elected, and millions more is spent trying to get their ear while they're in office.

But unions cannot out-spend the banks; and they can't offer millionaire retirement packages to retired Senators. The corporate retirement plans of Congressmen prove where their minds are while in office, and whose interests are being looked after.

Unions cannot continue to pretend that the Democrats are their "friends.? Labor has very little to show for this dysfunctional, decades-long friendship: union membership continues to shrivel as do jobs, wages and benefits for workers ? a losing strategy if ever there was one.

A ?lesser of two evils? approach to politics equals evil politicians for labor, no matter who wins. In fact, the lesser-evil Democrats have become increasingly evil over the years, to the point where the party as a whole is more Conservative than the Nixon-era Republicans.

The point has been reached where ? in various states ? Democratic governors are being endorsed by unions after promising to attack the wages and benefits of public workers!

To get out of this vicious, dead-end cycle, unions could unite their strength to form coalitions that promote independent labor candidates: 100 percent funded by labor to govern 100 percent in the interest of working people. All other roads lead back to the corporate lobbyists.

Shamus Cooke is a social service worker, trade unionist, and writer for Workers Action (www.workerscompass.org). He can be reached at shamuscook@yahoo.com

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The bigger issue to me is now corporations can fund candidates completely with nor worry, due to the Supreme Court ruling. Even more money flowing out from these big corporations - money that otherwise could be used to hire and train people, manufacture products, build plants, etc. I guess it's tough for me to worry as much about these companies from a financial worry standpoint, when they throw millions (sometimes billions) of dollars at candidates and now in races.
 

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Good points, chad. Even the Tea party is latched onto the corporate tit.

We allow all of our politicians to take bribes, so of course they do the bidding of the bribers.

Is there even one politician in DC who isn't on the take? I can't think of any.

How to stop it, I don't know since the fox is in charge of watching the henhouse.
 

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I'd like to start by making Lobbying illegal.

What's the point of those guys anyway?

I like that idea, but it's impossible to do without amending the Constitution -

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Those lobbyists are just exercising free speech and petitioning their government.

The Congress would have to eliminate those rights - no more free vacations, campaign contributions, high-dollar hookers.

You couldn't get a single vote for repeal....well maybe Ron Paul, but them he'd want to add on repeal of the Civil Rights Act, Medicare and Social Security, the 13th, 16th and 24th.
 

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Well, it?s one thing to ?exercise free speech and petition their government.? It?s entirely something else to give money for said vote?in essence purchasing the vote.

So that being said?Keep Lobbyist, but make it illegal for them to give money directly to law makers. They could contribute to parties, but not to the legislators directly.

How?d that be?
 

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Well, it?s one thing to ?exercise free speech and petition their government.? It?s entirely something else to give money for said vote?in essence purchasing the vote.

So that being said?Keep Lobbyist, but make it illegal for them to give money directly to law makers. They could contribute to parties, but not to the legislators directly.

How?d that be?

That would be just fine with me,,,however the Roberts Supreme Court has just recently ruled that political contributions must receive the same protection as speech, in other words this SCOTUS has ruled that speech and money are equal, and that no limits may be placed on either. The vote was 5/4. I'll bet you can name the five.

See if you can read this without throwing up -

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22scotus.html
 

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That would be just fine with me,,,however the Roberts Supreme Court has just recently ruled that political contributions must receive the same protection as speech, in other words this SCOTUS has ruled that speech and money are equal, and that no limits may be placed on either. The vote was 5/4. I'll bet you can name the five.

See if you can read this without throwing up -

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22scotus.html

I thought there was some kind of ethics thing that didn't allow any member of congress nor their staff to be allowed to accept any gifts from lobbyists .. and that includes meals or drinks.

After all, we don't really have the opportunity to go to Washington and take our congressman out to dinner while we talk about legislation, do we?

I can see giving money to a campaign...that money is tracked, (Right?) but personal gifts/money shouldn't be allowed and I know it goes on all the time by both parties.
 

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I thought there was some kind of ethics thing that didn't allow any member of congress nor their staff to be allowed to accept any gifts from lobbyists .. and that includes meals or drinks.

You can take anyone you like to dinner, or golfing, or fishing, or invite him to spend a weekend at your ski lodge or give a paid speech or whatever. You can contribute unlimited cash to their campaign, to their favorite charity. The only thing you cannot do is a quid pro quo arrangement - "Here's a bag of cash if you will vote for my bill."

Whenever a congressman is asked - "Doesn't a million dollars to your campaign influence how you vote?", he'll always puff up and reply - "Harruumph!, I, sir cannot be bought."

Yeah, right...and shit doesn't stink.


After all, we don't really have the opportunity to go to Washington and take our congressman out to dinner while we talk about legislation, do we?

Bingo.

I can see giving money to a campaign...that money is tracked, (Right?) but personal gifts/money shouldn't be allowed and I know it goes on all the time by both parties.


Does campaign money which helps you get elected influence your vote?

And yes, they ALL do it.

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I bet when the founders wrote that amendment they never thought about legal bribery.

It kind of whores out the whole concept. It may be legal but it sure doesn't seem right.

Good Discussion.
 

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I bet when the founders wrote that amendment they never thought about legal bribery.

The men who wrote the Constitution were some pretty special guys. I think they expected that we the people would make better choices than we do. We know that they expected people to be elected, serve a term or two and then go back to their regular life. They never expected career politicians.


It kind of whores out the whole concept. It may be legal but it sure doesn't seem right

Whores? Yes, that's the right word. Every politician I can think of will bend over for the money

Good Discussion.
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A Dead-End Cycle

When Corporations Own Congress

By SHAMUS COOKE

With the November elections quickly approaching, the majority of Americans will be thinking one thing: "Who cares?? This apathy isn't due to ignorance, as some accuse. Rather, working people's disinterest in the two party system implies intelligence: millions of people understand that both the Democrats and Republicans will not represent their interests in Congress.

This begs the question: Whom does the two party system work for? The answer was recently given by the mainstream The New York Times, who gave the nation an insiders peek on how corporations "lobby" (buy) congressmen. The article explains how giant corporations ? from Wall-mart to weapons manufacturers ? are planning on shifting their hiring practices for lobbyists, from Democratic to Republican ex-congressmen in preparation for the Republicans gaining seats in the upcoming November elections:

"Lobbyists, political consultants and recruiters all say that the going rate for Republicans ? particularly current and former House staff members ? has risen significantly in just the last few weeks, with salaries beginning at $300,000 and going as high as $1million for private sector [corporate lobbyist] positions." (September 9, 2010)

Congressmen who have recently retired make the perfect lobbyists: they still have good friends in Congress, with many of these friends owing them political favors; they have connections to foreign Presidents and Kings; and they also have celebrity status that gives good PR to the corporations.

Often, these congressmen have done favors for the corporation that is now hiring them, meaning, that the corporations are rewarding the congressmen for services rendered while in office, offering them million dollar lobbyist jobs (or seats on the corporate board of directors) that requires little to no work.

The same New York Times article revealed that the pay for 13,000 lobbyists [!] currently bribing Congress is a combined $3.5 billion. It was also explained how some lobbying firms keep an equal amount of Democrats and Republicans on hand, so they can be prepared for any eventuality in the elections.

This phenomenon is more than a little un-democratic: when millions of people vote for a candidate, the outcomes are quickly manipulated and controlled before the election even happens.

Interestingly, the corporate-directed Wall Street Journal wrote a similar article in 2008, as the Democrats had begun to dominate politics in Washington:

"Washington's $3 billion lobbying industry has begun shedding Republican staffers [politicians], snapping up Democratic operatives [politicians] and entire firms, a shift that started even before Tuesday's ballots were counted and Democrat Barack Obama captured the presidency." (November 5, 2008)

This article was appropriately titled ?Lobbyists Put Democrats Out Front as Winds Shift.?

The corporate money flows from party to party, so that the same goals are achieved: higher profits for corporations. The sums thrown at these politicians are mind boggling: the Associated Press reported that the corporate-orientated Chamber of Commerce spent "... nearly $190 million since Barack Obama became president in January 2009." (August 21, 2010)

These numbers explain the "deeper" differences between Democrats and Republicans ? money. Each party is a machine that vies for power because this power carries with it vast sums of corporate money. The longer a party is in office and the more connections it makes, the more its net worth to corporations, the more that these rewards can be spread to the different layers of the party. There is indeed a real-life, nasty fight between the Republican and Democratic Parties to dominate this corporate money.

One "interest group" that ex-Congressmen don't work for is labor unions. Unions spend millions of dollars to help get Democrats elected, and millions more is spent trying to get their ear while they're in office.

But unions cannot out-spend the banks; and they can't offer millionaire retirement packages to retired Senators. The corporate retirement plans of Congressmen prove where their minds are while in office, and whose interests are being looked after.

Unions cannot continue to pretend that the Democrats are their "friends.? Labor has very little to show for this dysfunctional, decades-long friendship: union membership continues to shrivel as do jobs, wages and benefits for workers ? a losing strategy if ever there was one.

A ?lesser of two evils? approach to politics equals evil politicians for labor, no matter who wins. In fact, the lesser-evil Democrats have become increasingly evil over the years, to the point where the party as a whole is more Conservative than the Nixon-era Republicans.

The point has been reached where ? in various states ? Democratic governors are being endorsed by unions after promising to attack the wages and benefits of public workers!

To get out of this vicious, dead-end cycle, unions could unite their strength to form coalitions that promote independent labor candidates: 100 percent funded by labor to govern 100 percent in the interest of working people. All other roads lead back to the corporate lobbyists.

Shamus Cooke is a social service worker, trade unionist, and writer for Workers Action (www.workerscompass.org). He can be reached at shamuscook@yahoo.com

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The bigger issue to me is now corporations can fund candidates completely with nor worry, due to the Supreme Court ruling. Even more money flowing out from these big corporations - money that otherwise could be used to hire and train people, manufacture products, build plants, etc. I guess it's tough for me to worry as much about these companies from a financial worry standpoint, when they throw millions (sometimes billions) of dollars at candidates and now in races.

With all due respect Chad -with gov taking over automakers and banks--I'm more concerned about the reality of opposite vs speculation of this.

Venezeala is not an economical model I wish to follow.
 

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With all due respect Chad -with gov taking over automakers and banks--I'm more concerned about the reality of opposite vs speculation of this.

Venezeala is not an economical model I wish to follow.
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how did we know that you would come in here finding no fault with big corporations.

Over and over thats your water loo

These lobby ppl need to be gone and we take back our goverment.

Our hands are tied until all this money changing hands is stopped.

Not to mention the gifts, trips, free meals, cash under the table, housing, hotels , golfing and on and on .

anyone that cant see that is just pathetic :)
 

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how did we know that you would come in here finding no fault with big corporations.

Over and over thats your water loo

These lobby ppl need to be gone and we take back our goverment.

Our hands are tied until all this money changing hands is stopped.

Not to mention the gifts, trips, free meals, cash under the table, housing, hotels , golfing and on and on .

anyone that cant see that is just pathetic :)
As Duff said, Scotty... thanks to the Supreme Court, it's only going to get worse... MUCH worse!!!
 

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As Duff said, Scotty... thanks to the Supreme Court, it's only going to get worse... MUCH worse!!!

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that Supreme Ct decision was very questionable in my mind. How could they do that in good faiith ?

what were they thinking

It almost rates up there with them putting Bush in the Presidency with the flying chad tads
 

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With all due respect Chad -with gov taking over automakers and banks--I'm more concerned about the reality of opposite vs speculation of this.

Venezeala is not an economical model I wish to follow.

With all due respect, Wayne... The government taking over the automakers and banks, from all reports, were to prevent them from going under, and in the case of the banks, was done to prevent economic collapse of our country. True or false, I don't know, that's the story I do know. As for the automakers, they have been preserved, have recovered to a reasonable degree, and the government is selling off the stock that was "taken over" and generating a profit to taxpayers, and I can't see how any of that is a bad thing.

I love how you call this situation "speculation." You know as well as I do that this situation, put in place by the conservative majority of the Supreme Court, is not "speculative." It's reality. In what world does opening up the political donation process to corporations mean that they won't donate to specific campaigns that will help their cause (on both sides of the aisle, by the way), and control our political process even more. More important to me, making my vote and the information I am given to make my vote completely controlled (by message) and of less worth compared to the corporations who can influence more votes?

Seriously, Wayne, I give you more credit than trying to tell me that a temporary fix to keep companies afloat - major companies that keep our economy alive - compares to companies controlling the election process indefinitely is more concerning to you. Especially since you are an investor in companies that will be investing heavily in these political races until this ruling is changed. Some of these races will go to liberals, as you SHOULD know, which takes money out of your pocket as an investor, and helps elect candidates that hurt your personal interests across the board.

You simply cannot be this off base, can you?
 
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