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I don't see many sites on this list that are worthy of protection, and assume many of them are enabling people to break the law, and actually providing the bandwidth permitting them to do it.

I'd guess many who are complaining about shutting down these websites would be among the first to complain if something they had patented or copyrighted was being "shared" by individuals for free, or counterfeiting their real product with fakes.

In fact, I'm pretty sure they'd be bitching about these sites, big time, if that were the case. It only matters to some, when it affects them personally, other than protecting their own rights to engage in sharing (stealing) things.
 
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Chadman said:
I don't see many sites on this list that are worthy of protection, and assume many of them are enabling people to break the law, and actually providing the bandwidth permitting them to do it.

I'd guess many who are complaining about shutting down these websites would be among the first to complain if something they had patented or copyrighted was being "shared" by individuals for free, or counterfeiting their real product with fakes.

In fact, I'm pretty sure they'd be bitching about these sites, big time, if that were the case. It only matters to some, when it affects them personally, other than protecting their own rights to engage in sharing (stealing) things.
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Exactly. The government presented evidence of criminal activity to a judge who issued a warrant. This has nothing to do with free speech or any other lawful activity. It is the government going after criminals.
 
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why do you think that is UGA ?
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Oh I have no doubt the domain owner of wikileaks would just deny prior knowledge of the postings where the torrent site was designed to break the law. IMO though and it is just that mine, any site whose premiss is releasing documents on sensitive topics cant claim ignorance when these things happen. You give illegal activities a platform then you become an accomplice when those illegal activities occur. Anarchy amongst the media is just as dangerous as total censorship imo. I am sure most would disagree with my views, but let me assure you that is the norm for me in this particular forum:toast:
 
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UGA12 said:
Oh I have no doubt the domain owner of wikileaks would just deny prior knowledge of the postings where the torrent site was designed to break the law. IMO though and it is just that mine, any site whose premiss is releasing documents on sensitive topics cant claim ignorance when these things happen. You give illegal activities a platform then you become an accomplice when those illegal activities occur. Anarchy amongst the media is just as dangerous as total censorship imo. I am sure most would disagree with my views, but let me assure you that is the norm for me in this particular forum:toast:
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I really doubt Assange is going to deny any prior knowledge. What is interesting, today on the Morning Joe, Scarborough wrings his hands over such "treasonous acts" yet no outrage over the content ! :shrug: :facepalm:

Do you think that not only GE tells Joe what think and say, that there may even be something ELSE ?

How many in this forum were even aware of this ? :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Illegal activities, hacking? The Government hires hackers ! They are all over geek tron in Las Vegas every July, and the Govt Spooks stick out like a stiff cock in a Nuns Convent.

I am more concerned the that WkiWiki is not all what they appear to be, and we could be looking at an internet shutdown. Then, you will have anarchy, Shut Down Starsucks ! :mj07: then it would be bad, then maybe the sheep might wake up? Maybe.....
 
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illuminati said:
I really doubt Assange is going to deny any prior knowledge. What is interesting, today on the Morning Joe, Scarborough wrings his hands over such "treasonous acts" yet no outrage over the content ! :shrug: :facepalm:

Do you think that not only GE tells Joe what think and say, that there may even be something ELSE ?

How many in this forum were even aware of this ? :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Illegal activities, hacking? The Government hires hackers ! They are all over geek tron in Las Vegas every July, and the Govt Spooks stick out like a stiff cock in a Nuns Convent.

I am more concerned the that WkiWiki is not all what they appear to be, and we could be looking at an internet shutdown. Then, you will have anarchy, Shut Down Starsucks ! :mj07: then it would be bad, then maybe the sheep might wake up? Maybe.....
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:scared SHUT DOWN STARBUCKS :scared
 
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:scared SHUT DOWN STARBUCKS :scared
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HH,

You would seem to be a sensible enough person :shrug: to not pay that ridiculous price for a cup of over priced, skalding java.

Although I may be wrong?

2 cups of Star Sucks = 11oz of ground Dunkin Donuts Dark or 1 lb of Trader Joes Dark
 
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Scarborough wrings his hands over such "treasonous acts" .
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How, exactly, does an Australian citizen commit "treason" against the USA?



trea?son
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?noun
1.
the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2.
a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.

Back to law school for Scarborough. He needs to pay better attention in class.
 
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How, exactly, does an Australian citizen commit "treason" against the USA?



trea?son
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?noun
1.
the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2.
a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.

Back to law school for Scarborough. He needs to pay better attention in class.
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I am missing something duff, did I misspell treason some where?

And yes, how does an Aussie commit an act of ?

I am pretty sure they are using the UnPatriot Act that was written in 1996, when it was know as the AntiTerrorism Act.

Whether the Administration could have anticipated 9/11 or not, the proponents of the USAPA were waiting to go long before that day. Similar antiterrorism legislation was enacted in the 1996 Antiterrorism Act, which however did little to prevent the events of 9/11, and many provisions had either been declared unconstitutional or were about to be repealed when 9/11 occurred.
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Well of course Assange cannot commit treason against the USA, since only a USA citizen can do that. Whether he is guilty of some other crime, only time will tell,

The questions which are more important to ask are -

1. Why was a PFC allowed access to millions of sensitive documents?

2. Why were senior diplomats so freaking stupid that they put in writing many statements and opinions which should have been verbal, and why did they not protect those written documents?

Hillary Clinton and Mike Mullins should get a large boot in the ass.
 
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